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Topic: Gavin will visit the CIA - page 17. (Read 153108 times)

legendary
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May 10, 2011, 09:06:27 PM
Seriously, we probably agree on most things on a philosophical level.

Maybe .. but all I know of you is that you admit willingly going to the CIA ... that's immediate exile in my shit world.

I just believe I'll get farther by taking "small steps to a much better world."

Don't care .. my world has always sucked with flames of torment ... unbearable pain is -> and always had been my world ... so I could give a shit less ...

Why do u hate the cia so much? Did they kill ur mom or dad! What did they do to ur family?

The U.S. and prob the CIA prob killed a lot of people in my parents country of origin but I don't harbor any anger.  I could get philosophical but I'm not going to.

Cia got bin ladin.  Woot.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 251
May 10, 2011, 09:01:04 PM
In the sense I won't do business with him ...
I don't deal with traitors ..  imo anyone that willingly talks with criminal Nazis is a traitor to their race.


legendary
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Chief Scientist
May 10, 2011, 08:18:31 PM
Golly, journeyofrivers is really going to hate me when he finds out I'm an Elected Official and a Cog in the System.  Last night I voted to steal millions of dollars from taxpayers and give it to public (I know!  Terrible!) schools.

(I'm only barely an elected official, one of 251 elected Amherst Town Meeting members.  My punishment is long boring meetings late at night a couple times a year...)

Seriously, we probably agree on most things on a philosophical level.  I just believe I'll get farther by taking "small steps to a much better world."
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
May 10, 2011, 08:08:56 PM

Never trust an Aussie!  (jk)

The country has a grand tradition of sticking it to authority, seeing as it was founded as a convict colony. Anyone who latched onto bitcoin as early as Gavin did must have head their screwed on correctly ...  but still would be good if he took a witness, 2ic, or similar for historical integrity.
hero member
Activity: 609
Merit: 501
peace
May 10, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
Wait, you blocked him... in what sense?

You're not going to use Bitcoin anymore, since he is the primary developer?

In the sense I won't do business with him ...
I don't deal with traitors ..  imo anyone that willingly talks with criminal Nazis is a traitor to their race.

and I have no choice but to carefully screen the source for infiltrations now.
Compassion is needed. He needs your support and ours as well- dropping him, calling him names is not helping in any way. Except make some suspicious of his contributions which is quite positive maybe.

They might well attempt to suck one in with tiny little steps laced with excitement, glamour, patriotism, for the greater good spiel and more. He will not sell his soul out and I am positive this, and other events, are happening for the better; that we do not yet fully grasp or understand. Things have a way of turning out that will surprise us.
sr. member
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Merit: 252
May 10, 2011, 12:59:16 PM
Wait, you blocked him... in what sense?

You're not going to use Bitcoin anymore, since he is the primary developer?
legendary
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Rational Exuberance
May 10, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
Gavins' on my block list ..
as with anyone that deals with corruption
Block me! Block me! I deal with corruption all the time!
legendary
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Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
May 10, 2011, 06:21:18 AM
Do we got a reasonable projection of how much USD wil exist by the time Bitcoins are close to reaching the big 21 mark?

Assuming the federal reserve company still exists and us is still controlled through violence (read "presidency and governments") I believe this is fairly reasonable projection of how many us dollars will exist: us$100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00

At that time it will cost about us$100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 to order a coffee at a restaurant.


Of course you all realize that this topic is most likely definately read by CIA when writing all these anti-governments posts ?
Tongue

I hope they realize they can use Bitcoin for their gains (the currency doesn't care who owns/uses it) and won't try to fight us right away.
member
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Merit: 10
May 07, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
No, he'll have to develop kidney failure and hide in Silicon Valley for 10 years evading detection.

Better to hang right outside of Langley .. seems the closer to those looking for you, the safer you are Smiley  Should be good for five years or so!
hero member
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Merit: 513
May 05, 2011, 02:43:33 AM
Do we got a reasonable projection of how much USD wil exist by the time Bitcoins are close to reaching the big 21 mark?

Assuming the federal reserve company still exists and us is still controlled through violence (read "presidency and governments") I believe this is fairly reasonable projection of how many us dollars will exist: us$100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00

At that time it will cost about us$100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 to order a coffee at a restaurant.
newbie
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Merit: 1
May 04, 2011, 08:12:45 AM
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I fail to see how this would work. What guarantee can the US gov't give that they couldn't immediately revoke as soon as it's convenient for them?

Exactly.  Any sort of effort to weaken Bitcoin is a Devil's bargain with them that's doomed to fail.
newbie
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Merit: 0
May 04, 2011, 03:39:55 AM
Does anybody really think the CIA has any problem with fund transfers?  Don't you think they already have plenty of methods of doing that and that it's extremely unlikely that Bitcoin (with all due respect) has come up with something novel that surprises them and gives them some new capability that they simply don't have already?  Sounds farfetched to me.
Just because you have one or six methods of transferring money doesn't mean you can't use another. Especially a new one, that is decentralized, which means other groups cannot control it and most other govs won't be watching it.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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May 04, 2011, 01:06:49 AM
lol, I think someone just discovered the first perpetual motion machine.  Good on you Gavin, by the way!  It's cool to know BitCoin is catching an eye or two at that level.  Tor-for-money!
legendary
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I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
May 03, 2011, 11:03:49 PM
So what is going to be Gavin's CIA asset name?

Alpaca
Carrot
Itsy BTC Spider
Growth Curve Ball
Burning Man
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 251
May 03, 2011, 08:37:15 PM
Do we got a reasonable projection of how much USD wil exist by the time Bitcoins are close to reaching the big 21 mark?

You are talking like a century into the future so a simple extrapolation will probably end up being way off the mark. The dollar might not even exist at that point.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
May 03, 2011, 08:32:36 PM
Do we got a reasonable projection of how much USD wil exist by the time Bitcoins are close to reaching the big 21 mark?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
May 03, 2011, 08:13:50 PM
If all USD was backed with BTC, how much 1 BTC would be worth right now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply#United_States

as of Oct 2009, M2 was 8.36 trillion, with ~8 million bitcoins in circulation, that's about $1M/btc.   Wink
legendary
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Merit: 1010
May 03, 2011, 06:05:51 PM
Prove the mixnet isn't a honeypot.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
May 03, 2011, 06:01:58 PM
If all USD was backed with BTC, how much 1 BTC would be worth right now?
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 101
May 03, 2011, 09:59:04 AM
Hm.

Advantages to the CIA of a backdoored bitcoin: it would be easy to gather intelligence by, say, identifying the bitcoin addresses of interesting people and tracking their cash flow.

Advantages to the CIA of a secure bitcoin: they don't have to worry about "bad guys" finding the backdoor and identifying all their spies, which probably would happen eventually with an open source program.

We have plenty of suspicious people vetting the source code already, and if I catch wind that the CIA is contributing code, I'll be one of them. So I'm not too worried about that scenario.
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