Topic: Gavineries (Read 3939 times)

Since yesterday's recap of the sad track record of the USG, the toomim clown received some bad news, with which he coped in the usual manner : by having a rather amusing public meltdown under the influence. Meanwhile the poopaganda machine came out in force with a pathetic chorus bemoaning "Bitcoin's death".

Whatever. For once we do agree : it's time to move on. Please do.

Bitcoin was never for you. Bitcoin was never for the poor ; Bitcoin was never for the voluble if worthless "social media" tramp ; Bitcoin was never for the soi-dissant "activist" aka scammer. Bitcoin was not for you.

And since we're doing this, let's proceed to dispell some myths.

I. It is false that Bitcoin has to be used by you for it to be valuable.

You believe man to be the measure of all things. This is a purely religious belief, exactly identical, and directly reducible, to the notion that there's a magical teapot spinning in the sky.

You believe that you are man, in the strict and strictly laughable sense that everything is equal to everything else and thus therefore you see yourself as not merely a uniquely bent spoon, vaguely related to various other better implementations of an ideal spoon and thus twice removed from that ideal but instead fully and completely, in and by yourself, equal and idempotent to everything man is, ever was or ever could be. This is also a religious belief, I suppose, although more indicative of psychopathology than what usually is called religion - on the continuum between the buddhist chanting and the fanatic beheading this sort of nonsense is certainly past the fanatic, hapilly floating in a schizoid sea towards waxy flexibility.

You put these two together and what comes out is the directly falsifiable notion that in order for Bitcoin to be valuable, it has to be usable by you. This is obviously not so : cars your whole bloodline could never, no matter what, ever afford are still cars, and valuable and enjoyed by those of your betters that can actually buy one. That nobody in your family ever wore shoes does not imply that shoes are now worthless, or "not usable". It certainly does not imply that shoes should be doing things differently. Learn a trade, marry well, do something with your life so that you too might enjoy the glory of footwear, perhaps, however briefly, however distantly in the future.

II. It is false that Bitcoin has to "do good" in order to continue to exist.

Bitcoin can kill all your friends, and all the people you respect, and every other kitten. It can poop in your drink and insult your friendship and rape your pets for all the difference it makes. If lightning strikes where you sit, whether you feel a warm cozy sort of love for it or the most burning hatred imaginable is strictly irrelevant - electricity stays. If tomorrow your house burns down you'll be advised to take more care - blaming the victim as it were. Nobody's ever going to try change the fire. More generally : the world is not built on emotions, whether you "love" world peace or "hate" world peace or both or neither makes exactly not one grain of difference to world peace.

Bitcoin is not a product, like a belt that's tied too tight and so you can adjust to be less tight, or like an engine that runs too hot and so you can adjust to run a little cooler. Bitcoin is a rule, and if you're not happy with how it works you have to change, just like if you're unhappy with the effects gravitation has on your planned plane, you must change the plan. You can't attempt to change gravitation.

And there is no such thing as voting rules. The things you vote upon are laws, not rules. They really don't matter one bit.

There are other silly things ESLi muppets believe, such as that they are creative (they're not, and I don't mean that they aren't the most creative - I mean they're below average, and markedly so) and that they're "civilised" (god help you), and that the only way they've ever seen things done is necessarily the best possible way (do read Voltaire when you have a moment) and on it goesii. But let's keep things simple and sweet, in step with the comprehension and attention span of five year olds captive in seemingly adult bodies : it's time to move on. Please do.

Bitcoin really is not for you.

Recent Bitcoin Direction
http://qntra.net/2016/01/recent-bitcoin-direction/

A miners warning
http://deedbot.org/deed-393913-1.txt

LOL, but this is 2016 bro, a year of unprecedented change. Are you aware that life beyond the Earth even exists? By the end of the year, once the "authorities" have "officially" announced such a "discovery", I suspect you will!

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-open-source-projects-survive-poisonous-people-62037

Sophisticated adults like to believe they put away childish things when they left school but in reality we never really grow out of them. Cliques of people develop at work just like they did in school. It's human nature and can't be helped.

All right

I hoped there were better reasons ...

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time


Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

Remember back to high school or college. Now think about the biggest asshole you knew there. The asshole had friends, right?

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time


Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-open-source-projects-survive-poisonous-people-62037

I've read many of the developer logs from Bitcoin and I must say I'm surprised this hasn't really come to a head earlier. If you read luke-jrs response to pretty much anything he disagrees with he does the "you do that and I'm not going to mine it" approach. "If you do that I'm going to fork the chain" . Basically turning every minor problem into a major one and using his pool as his body guard.

Does anyone actually think Luke-Jr is a positive presence? Attacking other currencies, filing false claims to hosts, inserting religious text into Bitcoin and finally holding Bitcoin development team to ransom to stall development? With that sort of positive presence I'm glad he's over here rather than focusing on SolidCoin. Tongue

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

....  irrelevant shit

yet another Bitcoin fork branded as "Bitcoin Classic"..

Note one of his new "partner in crime":





Spice it up with Cryptsy's unsurprising EXIT SCAM:

That is incorrect.

Due to the presence of spoofed Not_Classic and Pseudo_Classic nodes, the process is absolutely opaque.

Uncertainty about the authenticity/provenance/intent of Gavinblocks creates a moment of maximized risk, at the exact time (potential) defectors from Core's socioeconomic majority most need reassurance they will not lose coins when the attacking chain is orphaned.

If classic reaches 51 percent, the rest will follow soon. The process is absolutely transparent.

You don't know how Bitcoin variance works.

Much less than an actual 75% of mining power may will inevitably get lucky and prematurely trigger a fork.

But as that variance is smoothed out over time by reversion to normal distribution, the >25% remaining miners will inevitably orphan the attacking Gavinista blockchain by solving several consecutive 1MB blocks.

Here is your next remedial lesson on Bitcoin Civil Wars:


Please hurry and catch up to the rest of the class.  You are (at minimum) 4.5 months behind.