Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 1145. (Read 3377956 times)

That is/was the plan and it´s working perfectly -  it´s all about pump&dump and making money (for some)

Who ever thinks Gaw made PayCon because they love crypto so much and want change the world is dead wrong. It´s a company and a company wants to make money.
And even more if they have a hard time paying their fucking bills.

As Carson or whatever his name was (who  made the "landingpage" for Constand.com)  said " people make Altcoins to make fucking money with it - selling dreams, fantasy"

It´s sadly true in most cases. Not all, but most.

Sure and if I tell you it's illegal for you to drive without a license and while intoxicated but give you the keys and the liquor I'm not breaking the law because I notified you.  :rolleyes:

As i see things, those bastards at GAW will actually send invites to some N number of people, then
start to accept purchases, those N people will scream all over like yes we did it we can trade with 20$ a coin an shit like that,
GAW will expect price to go up, then start dump again...

This damn scam will never end

Yeah, it seems real hard to keep thread on track as of late. 1337 pages though, I guess it can be expected.

I love how Josh was referring to us calling HT a cult earlier. I guess it used to be cultish, but with so few members, I dont really consider it a cult anymore. It is mostly only Joshs accounts and a few paid shills left.

So now we are not talking about GAW anymore
but discussing if it is ok to run a ponzi if you warn them its a ponzi?

Sorry guys  but if a man wants to invest in ponzy knowing that its a ponzi, i see no reason for
scheme runner not to do so...

Why do you get so uptight about people complaining about it being a Ponzi? You have a Ponzi gaming site and state it's a Ponzi along with the risks and even the gambling with the house edge of 25% Casino's have up to that much house edge in many of their games. It's outright deceiving people which is why people have such a problem with GAW.

Here's a handy tip for all you GAW guys, don't go around boasting about your new toys and whatnot to the community in which you need to survive. You make it out like it's Hashtalk vs. Bitcointalk except that Bitcointalk has all the Coins you want so it would be better to make friends with the trolls and not try to deceive people hoping they buy in so you can dump. There is nothing wrong with a little house edge unless it benefits only a couple people and everyone else gets the pipe just because they are inexperienced in the market/gullible .

My problem with ponzi/pyramid schemes, no matter how "legit" or "transparent", is that it gives the idiots participating an incentive to promote the scheme to other idiots.

In the end you get a bunch of butthurt/misinformed idiots who gambled/invested more than they could afford to lose because they were convinced by other idiots that it was a foolproof money making scheme.

Yes, ok true what you say ok it´s no legal.

But if people like playing games, let them.

When it´s cleary stated that it is a ponzi upfront, which it was, it´s peoples own problem when they deposited to late and got no payout and another one got it.


BUT i have a problem investing in things like LTCGear, PBMining etc you name it, stating they are a legit cloudmining service and it turns out it WAS a Ponzi.

Then have problem with it. Sorry for my crappy english but i hope you got my point what i´m trying to say

There are LAWS against illegal gambling websites, ponzi schemes and pyramid games. It's a good thing these laws are there - and it doesn't matter if you have a problem with it or not or how much of a "skill" is involved, it's still illegal.

I wouldn´t call him a criminal with just offering a service where is demand of it.

If he pulled the plug and made an exit scam , well than yes.

Yes, it´s not legal, but that´s just my point of view.

Almost true.... then there's me,   Games over All investors paid....Still here!

the point is, that he is a criminal.
society at large has decided that its illegal. you are morally corrupt if you try to offer such services

there is a demand for all kind of illegal activities like murdering people. if you offer such services you should be jailed just like ponzi people. preferably into the same cell with Mr. Gonzo

Yes, it´s not legal but there is demand for it. People want to play sometimes Ponzi.

If he simply offered that "service" with no one ripping off and clearly stating that it is what it is, a Ponzi, i have personally no problem with it.


But sooner or later most of those ponzi operators dissapear when the time is right.

The better you guess the timeframe when the whole thing blows off, the more profit.

It´s a game of skill also.

ladies and gentleman. imbecile award of the day goes to Mr. Gonzo
he sanitizes his cult forum more strongly than joseph goebbels would and has the gall to post this:

Ponzi and Pyramid schemes are crimes.
http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm
Telling your victims that you will commit the crime does not make it legal, just as telling a woman you're going to rape her would not make that legal either.
If you run a ponzi, you're a criminal and you should go to jail for it.

I've noticed over the last week, more and more people are complaining on Hashtalk that they are having problems withdrawing and even depositing money with PayBase.

People are logging tickets with support and most seem to be going unresolved.

Is he doing this to stop dumpsters or just to keep people's money before he runs off?

If people want play ponzi - let them play.

But be careful whith whom you play - i was close getting ripped off at one time. Got my btc back, though.

Hellsgremlin: remove the link in your signature , when its not running anyway not point letting it stay there.

This is the last thing i have to say about the ponzi,
The fact cannot be ignored that the users are informed and willing to take a bet / risk.  I am no some scumbag preying on the unsuspecting uninformed by ruse or disguise of some magical investment platform.   It is thoroughly explained on the main page exactly how ponzi's work and what they do.   It tells users there is a High risk of loss and what is required for them to gain.  

There are no " Victims" of my website as they are informed users who knowingly and Willingly give there money to the person / people who deposited before them In hopes that someone or someones will continue to do the same for them.   The losers of this should given no more sympathy then one who loses a blackjack bet.  I genuinely never took a dime from these people more then my advertised fee's  I've always remained transparent and available for contact.    

The fact stands there is a market & demand,  Some of these people enjoy playing these services.   Why should i not provide the service if i can?  Would you prefer that these people use a different kind of service like Cryptodouble that mislead its users and allowed knowing users to target unknowing people to buy into its a investment?    Thats a Scam.  What I provided was something different.

  My server was not a "Scam" Nor "Fraud"  Reguardless of you you twist things,  Ive just about finished paying every single person from my unrealistic 75% Return guarantee from the old xpyponzi.com  out of pocket.   Furthermore the Ponzi link in the bottom has been finished and abandoned for weeks now.  I initially stoped it to add new upgrades and features,  I have however long since lost interest in the project, This can be validated by the last deposit date at the bottom & lack of deposit address on the page. The fact that its in my sig still was an oversight until it was brought up.  The only reason it remains is because im not running or hiding anything,   so while it remains a topic of discussion,  which it shouldn't.  It will remain,  eventually it will be removed.




Now that all the bullshit should be out of the way.

So far things have been going well for me.   I didnt just buy in at penny's either.  I made smart decisions at the right time and managed to turn a profit,  Im nobody special nor have I claimed I came here because this is the Uncensored GaW chat,  You voice yours i voice mine.  My experience has been positive,  Some of your claims are inaccurate,  Should my character be attacked because I disagree with you're statements.    FFS last week i came here and argue'd that the investors of paycoin who have lost shouldn't be made a mockery of and got the same response.

What is happening here is worse then censorship & Promotes pure foolishness in which I myself have participated in.  None the less it all kills the credibility of some of the very realivant questions raised here when you insist on attacking and twisting everything to focus on anything but the dispute of you're claims.  You dont play fair & Finally   You will either see pictures of my purchase or you a apology and i wont be back here.    This place is a fucking circus.
 

Book of GAWD proverb 1:42

"Thou shall not speaketh of the Con, for it shall be made"

if you're smart enough to get away with all the shit you do then you earned it,
silk road operators were smarter than you, smarter than josh and they made 100 fold more than you pices of scam shit,
yet where are they now?

good luck with your scams
your just small fish now its all about time
you'll never know how it feels to create something valuable that helps other people,
looking back all your life for the sams you made once is worthy? really? i bet those guys running silk road tought that way,
now they will rot in jail for the rest of their life...

now you GAW lemmings, you expect to get rich with trusting your money to a piece of shit that never takes his own word seriously?
really what kind of idiot one must be to keep trusting him till now?
reality is cruel, you want to be rich, you got to earn it, not waisting your time in some shittalk waiting for piece of shit called josh to make you rich...

so you get a life idiots, you all are getting burned all over again and continue to lie like you dont but you do...
first you get promissed 20$ per coin now you're happy if you get 1$ are you total morrons?