Ok, I think 2 things should be addressed here.
1. ) This is intended to be an attack on GAW, Not investors & users of HT. It should be understood that Gaw's Target audience is the Newbie crowd ( including myself) I'm somewhat disturbed to see soo much ridicule / Fun poking @ alot of very kind hearted people. You all must understand that although Crypto is full of shitheads and scammers there are indeed allot of kindhearted Gullible people in this world who are so to the point they are willing to ignore red flags to give something or someone the benefit of the Doubt. My experience in that community has been great and those people you are making fun of have shown Myself and countless others Overwhelming Kindness and generosity.
I think most of us agree and until relatively recently, most "attacks" as you call them (assertions of truth I would call them) were directed at GAW, its owner, and to those who had a degree of control over at HT (especially ban happy admins and "badge" holders who took it upon themselves to suppress meaningful and questions in posts). Those people still deserve to be skewered for their role in enabling the scheme despite our collective best efforts to out the fraud. The "innocent" who have not engaged in these enabling activities have only recently been the subject of a few posters' who just cannot believe how gullible some on HT are but I agree the truly innocent deserve some pity rather than ridicule.
However, it is very difficult to see who is truly innocent over there. When Mr. Coins posts his dribble defending the fraud, and a bunch of "innocents" chime in about how great his analysis is .. they followers are no longer really innocent. When some folks question Mr. Coins' dribble and are drummed down by the masses of "innocents" .. they are no longer all that innocent.
At this point, the only really innocent folk left on HT are those who have never posts because any criticism will end you with a ban and the mindless acceptance will land you directly on the side of enabling criminal and immoral conduct.
2. ) I dont think it can be Ignored that from before paycoin even launched there has been a overwhelming Negative response from this community @ the whole idea of paycoin and gaw. There have been 100's of other Alt coins that have come and gone, Some which have been Very obvious IPO scams. yet NONE of them have received Not even close to the attention of you all that paycoin has. With that said, I think you must understand that some of these people including myself can see that, I chose to reserve my opinion on the whole subject for now atleast untill the rest of those missing emails are made public. But understand this Negative attention that has been directed at paycoin from the start gives me the 1 foot in 1 foot out kind of attitude.
Just reverse FUD here. Suchmoon, redacted, myself (under the banned zerocylinders name) and many many others here started out as **investors**/customers (some of us very substantial customers - I had over $35K in which is a lot to me). We did not start out to "bash" Paycoin. We started out as customers who had questions. Questions which never got answered. More, our questions led to ridicule and derision from GAW and GAW cronies. THAT is why this thread got started, because we as investors/customers started to get concerned and became more and more concerned over time as promises were not kept (including many promises long before the $20 floor fiasco) and new promises were made that seemed very unlikely to be met.
Saying that everyone here on BCT "hates" Paycoin is a great way to deflect. Its personal so you can ignore it. That is a fallacy. I don't hate Paycoin. I see it is flawed from day one. Many of us tried to point out its flaws and were ignored and banned and labelled as FUD or haters. Now, those flaws have led directly to the downfall of GAW and will lead to Paycoin's demise (hyperinflaction and pre-mine all alone are enough to ensure the death of Paycoin over time).
So would you have us all who have been involved with GAW since the very beginning (June of 2014 in my case) just sit back and let newbies lose their money? Wouldn't you want us to try to warn folks if we see a train headed off the tracks? If you re-read this forum with that in mind (and keep in mind we have mostly all been IN the train at one point) I think you will see a lot less hate and FUD and a lot more reality.
I mean honestly Most of this seems as if its a Direct Hate @Gaw itself, I say this because 1000's of people have profited / ROI'd Via there cloud mining service when it was live, Even before paycoin was even thought of.
Only a very few profited overall. I got out with a small profit but only because I limited my exposure as soon as the flawed Hashstaker/Paycoin was announced and I realized it could not survive. Had I waited only a week or two my "cloud mining" profits woudl have disappeared in the Hashstaker scam... and they were never profits from mining, so much as selling Primes to newbies who bought at inflated market prices due to hype. So my slight gain was really someone else's massive loss.
So with all that, I ask is there anything that gaw could do that would make this all stop? Even if gaw was to release all the features they " promised" and deliver on everything @gawceo claimed they would, Would you all fade away in the wind or find something new to bitch about?
Since you ask, sure:
(1) Provide 100% transparency going back to the start. This means coming clean about the scam cloud mining, the pre-mine XPY (and who hold/controls each and every pre-mined coin, along with an accounting of profits from sales), were all of the money GAW received went (from purchases of non-existing "miners", purchases of XPY, sales of XPY on markets, and sales of mining hardware after shutting down the mining operations)
(2) Verified destruction of all pre-mine coins and hyperinflation generated coins (staking > 5%) within GAW/Josh/Affiliates control
(3) Turning over XPY including source code repository and Prime Controller keys to Team XPY (promised but not yet done to my knowledge)
(4) Refunding all purchases of hashlets and hashtakers and XPY purchased from GAW since it was all based on false promises and false information
(5) Some indication of genuine remorse from Josh and others who were responsible
After that, I am satisfied.
