Needs disclaimer inside the image itself indicating the vest is 'shopped, lest the acolytes fall for the inevitable "those guys on BCT are making up 'evidence'".
That's not really evidence of anything, so I don't think a disclaimer is necessary.
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January 06, 2015, 05:16:34 PM
That's not really evidence of anything, so I don't think a disclaimer is necessary.
January 06, 2015, 05:15:06 PM
Hard to tell if it's him without the vest.
better?
Needs disclaimer inside the image itself indicating the vest is 'shopped, lest the acolytes fall for the inevitable "those guys on BCT are making up 'evidence'".
January 06, 2015, 05:02:08 PM
Hey, as long as we are announcing that suchmoon has won
Yeah right. I'm still waiting for that novel of "facts". I have a feeling we have a surprise coming (or no surprise, depending on your point of view).
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(7) GAW will apologize and blame the whole mess on the U.S. legal regulatory system and/or its lawyers/investors/retail partners who just don't "get it"
Trolls on bitcointalk, regulatory system/KYC regulations (or KCY as Josh writes lol), and a conspiracy of "dumpers" trying to kill the coin... I give myself 80% on this prediction. Once the SEC/FTC/AG steps in, I am sure I will be at 100% on this.
I'm gonna give you 100%:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/27529
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Outside of the significant drain supporting the marketplace had on our reserves, we have since learned that the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) has specifically stated that they can hold a company liable for manipulating pricing. For these reasons (and the ones above), the “hard floor” strategy cannot succeed and we have no plans to re-implement it.
January 06, 2015, 04:46:51 PM
Hard to tell if it's him without the vest.
better?
Nice brah
January 06, 2015, 04:44:08 PM
Hard to tell if it's him without the vest.
better?
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January 06, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Evidence:
facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook
His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook
His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
I found an old myspace page with the name Garza and a dude beside a sports car.
https://myspace.com/josg21
"South Newfane, VT"
Oh you guys.
That's him with a yellow Corvette: https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/23/aec80cea3ecf4547bba51d1d0cc2901a/300x300.jpg
yeah it got figured out a few pages back
January 06, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
Well, not really. He actually missed the deadline for the widget contest.
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January 06, 2015, 04:28:04 PM
i see this on here about bitcoin that i say is great fantastic news. I just dont see anything about paycoin being included, maybe Josh needs some senator friends or something. In any case good reading this article http://bitcoinpeak.com/ab-129-california-legally-approves-the-use-of-bitcoin-cryptocoinsnews 
ohhhhhhhhhhhh might have Oregon being added to this list / article also, I hope its true then maybe can add Vegas baby lol. I guess paycoin can do vegas January 06, 2015, 04:22:42 PM
Hey, as long as we are announcing that suchmoon has won, I thought I could revisit my predictions from November 5... I think I did pretty good considering when the predictions were made!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9449020
Zenpool? What Zenpool? For that matter, Hashlets have all but disappeared?! Oh, the 1 Satoshi per day Zenpool. Yep.
True all the way through PoW phase which was extended to make hashlet owners feel like they "won" something; as predicted Zen hashlet prices plummeted too.
Well, seems I missed on this one. Withdrawal issues plagued GAW all the way in.
Pre-mining? Nah, GAW would never do that. Except for the 96% that is did pre-mine of course. Hashpoints for all! Check.
How about that for an accurate prediction! Check+. Of course, with level 4 verification on Coinbase you can trade up to $500. Yippee.
I am going to call this 50% correct. I am surprised that XPY is still worth anything, much less $4. But still a far cry from the $20 - $100 range that GAW promised.
Trolls on bitcointalk, regulatory system/KYC regulations (or KCY as Josh writes lol), and a conspiracy of "dumpers" trying to kill the coin... I give myself 80% on this prediction. Once the SEC/FTC/AG steps in, I am sure I will be at 100% on this.
Check. I still want to know what they are doing with the 5 petahash farm.
Nope, I missed on this. Never would have guessed that Josh's new gambit would be to shit on mining altogether and promote mining wallets without mining. Such confusion. Such brass balls. Well, can't guess everything right I suppose.
I think we are about 50% of the way there on this. Time will tell if GAW is successful in controlling the exchanges for XPY as Josh seems determined to do .. then will be 100%.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9449020
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(1) Zenpool will continue to suck and possibly get worse
Zenpool? What Zenpool? For that matter, Hashlets have all but disappeared?! Oh, the 1 Satoshi per day Zenpool. Yep.
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(2) Hashpoint pool will continue to generate record hashpoint returns, forcing prime and zen owners to move to hashpoint mining (which is of course non-existent)
True all the way through PoW phase which was extended to make hashlet owners feel like they "won" something; as predicted Zen hashlet prices plummeted too.
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(3) Relieved of the requirement of making BTC payouts, GAW will be able to fix some of the more glaring red flags (like the constant inability to withdraw, maintenance down times, etc.) which are related to the fact that GAW is not yet actually mining anything.
Well, seems I missed on this one. Withdrawal issues plagued GAW all the way in.
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(4) GAW will launch its round 1 ICO, which will force hashpoint conversions into hashcoin, but that is no skin out of GAW's hide since its all premining.
Pre-mining? Nah, GAW would never do that. Except for the 96% that is did pre-mine of course. Hashpoints for all! Check.
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(5) GAW will announce that its lawyers/investors/retail partners (pick one or more) have decided that selling hashcoin for fiat is problematic legally, so they cannot do it. GAW will advise users to exchange hashcoin on the exchanges; maybe will even have a deal with one or more exchanges to make this automatic.
How about that for an accurate prediction! Check+. Of course, with level 4 verification on Coinbase you can trade up to $500. Yippee.
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(6) Hashcoin on the exchanges will be nearly worthless.
I am going to call this 50% correct. I am surprised that XPY is still worth anything, much less $4. But still a far cry from the $20 - $100 range that GAW promised.
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(7) GAW will apologize and blame the whole mess on the U.S. legal regulatory system and/or its lawyers/investors/retail partners who just don't "get it"
Trolls on bitcointalk, regulatory system/KYC regulations (or KCY as Josh writes lol), and a conspiracy of "dumpers" trying to kill the coin... I give myself 80% on this prediction. Once the SEC/FTC/AG steps in, I am sure I will be at 100% on this.
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(9) In the meantime, GAW will be able to buy real mining machines since its payouts on hashlets are ll in worthless hashcoin/hashpoints, which allows GAW to use its mining and hashlet sales to actually purchase hardware.
Check. I still want to know what they are doing with the 5 petahash farm.
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(10) GAW, if they do not blow up legally, might eventually succeed in becoming a cloud mining company with real miners. Since its users bought in at $16-49 per mhs, and by December prices for ASICs will be down to $5/mhs... there is plenty of room for GAW to transition to a real cloud mining company using customers money ... as long as they can stave off withdrawals and payouts for a couple more months. Of course hashlets will be worth $5 / mhs by then too.
Nope, I missed on this. Never would have guessed that Josh's new gambit would be to shit on mining altogether and promote mining wallets without mining. Such confusion. Such brass balls. Well, can't guess everything right I suppose.
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(11) Hashcoin will end up where GAW started - as a loyalty program.
I think we are about 50% of the way there on this. Time will tell if GAW is successful in controlling the exchanges for XPY as Josh seems determined to do .. then will be 100%.
January 06, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Hard to tell if it's him without the vest.
January 06, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
Evidence:
facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook
His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook
His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
I found an old myspace page with the name Garza and a dude beside a sports car.
https://myspace.com/josg21
"South Newfane, VT"
Oh you guys.
That's him with a yellow Corvette: https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/23/aec80cea3ecf4547bba51d1d0cc2901a/300x300.jpg
yeah it got figured out a few pages back
January 06, 2015, 04:02:03 PM
Suchmoon won
Who is next? I think LTCGear is still not confirmed so it should be Bitcoin-Trader.biz?
Who is next? I think LTCGear is still not confirmed so it should be Bitcoin-Trader.biz?
January 06, 2015, 03:58:42 PM
Evidence:
facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook
His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook
His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
I found an old myspace page with the name Garza and a dude beside a sports car.
https://myspace.com/josg21
"South Newfane, VT"
Oh you guys.
That's him with a yellow Corvette: https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/23/aec80cea3ecf4547bba51d1d0cc2901a/300x300.jpg
January 06, 2015, 03:17:54 PM
Short on time again today, but will share some resources in hopes of other people taking the reins.
One of my favorite sleuthing tools is Web Boar (webboar.com). There, you can search by name, phone number, email address, web address, etc. Playing around on the site, you can find a lot of interesting info (i.e., the 130+ domains registered to JG, etc.). I started looking at ZenMiner.com a few days back. Kinda interesting if you google search phone numbers and email addys that are produced by searching webboar. http://www.webboar.com/whois/zenminer.com
One of my favorite sleuthing tools is Web Boar (webboar.com). There, you can search by name, phone number, email address, web address, etc. Playing around on the site, you can find a lot of interesting info (i.e., the 130+ domains registered to JG, etc.). I started looking at ZenMiner.com a few days back. Kinda interesting if you google search phone numbers and email addys that are produced by searching webboar. http://www.webboar.com/whois/zenminer.com
https://whoisology.com/archive_8/zenminer.com
Registered by [email protected]
His other websited include http://christopherlovato.com/
Software Test Architect / DevOps
Zenminer and Eric's history is a whole different can of worms.
Do some research.
January 06, 2015, 03:13:19 PM
Short on time again today, but will share some resources in hopes of other people taking the reins.
One of my favorite sleuthing tools is Web Boar (webboar.com). There, you can search by name, phone number, email address, web address, etc. Playing around on the site, you can find a lot of interesting info (i.e., the 130+ domains registered to JG, etc.). I started looking at ZenMiner.com a few days back. Kinda interesting if you google search phone numbers and email addys that are produced by searching webboar. http://www.webboar.com/whois/zenminer.com
One of my favorite sleuthing tools is Web Boar (webboar.com). There, you can search by name, phone number, email address, web address, etc. Playing around on the site, you can find a lot of interesting info (i.e., the 130+ domains registered to JG, etc.). I started looking at ZenMiner.com a few days back. Kinda interesting if you google search phone numbers and email addys that are produced by searching webboar. http://www.webboar.com/whois/zenminer.com
https://whoisology.com/archive_8/zenminer.com
Registered by [email protected]
His other websited include http://christopherlovato.com/
Software Test Architect / DevOps
January 06, 2015, 02:31:28 PM
I don't get it, what's the point of this anymore? Hasn't everything we said come true? Time to kill this one and move on.
It's up to suchmoon to declare a victory and close the thread. I think we should wait until the btcmiami conference. I really am interested in his response to all the negative backlash.
Victory? Who won?
These last few pages have been quite entertaining.
It seems that using the same pseudonym across all interwebz is highly beneficial... for someone trying to dig up dirt.
It's funny how long it takes to pull "facts" together though:
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Josh Garza @gawceo · 2d 2 days ago
A lot of information we post is being taken out of context. Working on compiling the facts in one place to get some questions answered
A lot of information we post is being taken out of context. Working on compiling the facts in one place to get some questions answered
Looks like a novel is being worked on. Let's hope it's a good one.
And if I understand it correctly the reddit post(s) got deleted again? Along with the user account? I wonder what that means to those promises there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2r9n29/paycoin_and_gaw/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2r9l72/a_message_from_gaw/
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Having said that, we are working on some options for our customers. We will NOT allow any of our customers, that purchased through us or HashPoints, suffer a loss from their original investment.
We will stand behind Paycoin and our customers, we are not going anywhere. We will face the challenges ahead and we will deliver what we promised.
We will stand behind Paycoin and our customers, we are not going anywhere. We will face the challenges ahead and we will deliver what we promised.
January 06, 2015, 02:17:43 PM
Nice find! I also googled 'josg21' and came across this other gem. It seems once the cogwheels started turning in the above post, and about feb 20, 2014 he started to think more about the numbers behind this scheme.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scrypt-hosted-contracts.264753/
http://snag.gy/d9lBk.jpg
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scrypt-hosted-contracts.264753/
http://snag.gy/d9lBk.jpg
Apparently couldn't do math back then either. So how much is it per day?
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.02. a day per KH
.13 a week per KH
.55 a day per KH
.13 a week per KH
.55 a day per KH
Lol. Although this information is very insightful in learning GAW_CEO's thought process.. the post itself is not damning. I'll stand-by what I said before. I don't think his goal was to make this a scam. I think he just got in way over his head and has no idea how to run a business.
January 06, 2015, 02:14:21 PM
I wonder if they actually know what a Ponzi scheme is?
They suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
Its more like suspended belief. Some of these guys have thousands of dollars tied up in all this mess. They are blinded by the fact that this could actually ruin them financially. Sad really. Some of these guys have wives, kids and bills to be paid and they still hang on tightly.
Yeah, and now big money will be taking profits on Wall St. for the next
several months so their sagging stocks will add to the headache.
January 06, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Nice find! I also googled 'josg21' and came across this other gem. It seems once the cogwheels started turning in the above post, and about feb 20, 2014 he started to think more about the numbers behind this scheme.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scrypt-hosted-contracts.264753/
http://snag.gy/d9lBk.jpg
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scrypt-hosted-contracts.264753/
http://snag.gy/d9lBk.jpg
Apparently couldn't do math back then either. So how much is it per day?
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.02. a day per KH
.13 a week per KH
.55 a day per KH
.13 a week per KH
.55 a day per KH
January 06, 2015, 02:01:25 PM
Let's see if I can post a link to this thread quicker than rootdude can delete it:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/28153/hey-guys-my-curiosity-got-the-best-of-me-open-discussion
I think they are in complete denial over there lol https://hashtalk.org/topic/28153/hey-guys-my-curiosity-got-the-best-of-me-open-discussion
Well, Josh did say something about the "longest river on the world", which is De Nile.
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