This mother fucker needs a re post before its deleted
https://hashtalk.org/topic/25209/as-a-customer-i-am-pissed-shocked-and-disappointedBefore we go any further... WE ARE NOT INVESTORS.. WE ARE CUSTOMERS, definitions here...
WHY do I want you to understand what YOU are? I'm sure Josh's Lawyers have instructed him emphatically to never use any other term in regards to US. PS... You MUST do the links, this way "elders" won't get pissy about having to scroll past the pics... even though they are part of the post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer... and as a customer, I am pissed, shocked and disappointed. I feel there has been such a "web of dec--pt "simply by omission or through repression of information.
Now that I have pissed you off, etc think about this...
#1 The "web of dec--pt"
You walk into a "whatever you want to call this" institution and make a deposit...
You add funds, in exchange for the proverbial toasters, on the IMPLICATION that you will recieve greater dividends... ~notice I didn't say promise.
Your account matures, and then you are told that you cant have your funds for 30 days...
~ worse yet, you are told that you can go spend your funds while you are waiting...
~~within certain retailers only... ( this reminds me of AOL in their early days )
Now out here in the real world... how many of us would ever use this "whatever" again? I firmly believe that if Josh ever had to deal with a "whatever" institution, in the real world, that treated him this way... he would feel exactly like 1/2 - 2/3 of us feel. Why are more people not speaking up?...
#2 The MODS
Lets a clear of the little smoke in regards to this...
https://hashtalk.org/topic/25055/hashtalk-banning/1 Its not specifically the MODS that are being referred to as creating the " atmosphere of harassment". I have had "elders" (those of longevity and high reps.) PM me regarding posts, as well as publicly say... you're walking a thin line, you're pushing your luck, and quit while you're ahead. This has never come from a MOD. In fact, in a recent conversation with a MOD, I mentioned that I had thrown my hat in the ring for MOD, see snip it of chat here...
http://1drv.ms/1JG2MBe Then you have "elders" saying not to make posts, but to put in tickets or PM Josh etc... Which brings us to ...
#3 Methods of Support
Chat has been busy all day, for the last few days... so thats not an option. We are directed to Support.
Tech Support who is also busy and we get emails saying that...
"Elders" say... you should have PM'd Josh about this... his tag says otherwise, and he doesn't answer anyways. Which is to be expected. It has even been ELUDED to... that we should quit CC'n Josh as he is too busy, and as he is the OWNER, its not his job to deal with issues. Why did I bring this up...
http://1drv.ms/1wcDlwN And before anyone link dumps me...
#4 Updates and Delays
Always.
Enough said right! Before you dump this on me...
https://hashtalk.org/topic/25054/paycoin-stall-paybase-update/1 or this one...
https://hashtalk.org/topic/25070/paycoin-stall-paybase-update-2/1 My issue started hours before that. If you had looked at the pics, you would have seen the times for the transactions. And YES, I put in a
https://gawminers.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/53022 . Speaking of Updates and Delays...
#5 Posts being Altered
I have my own personal WIKI running which has the hyperlink as well as comments to relevance. And I have noticed a distinct pattern of alterations. Users frequently refer others to the "Willy thing" search function, myself included. Examples include...
Josh promising Primes to all customers who go to HQ and take the tour etc. The link I had, was altered and that promise (Josh's actual words) was removed. Several others confirmed this also.
Josh ELUDING to customers getting access to FIAT before christmas, and then reiterating that... removed. Now I am NOT saying that Josh has done this, maybe someone in another office has, I don't really know. So why do I even bring this up? Consistently the "elders" say to prove it, "show me the posts" to other users... when I had the link to the conversation and it was indeed gone, well draw your own conclusions. I'm not the only user frustrated by this. Speaking of conclusions...
Before anyone says...
...you should have sold everything and left. The point of no return was the upgrades. Then the details were released, and one of those was that inventory could no longer be sold.
...you should have made a more informed decision. How do users do that when they are "pressure sold" by timelimits and then the precise details come out, consistently afterwards. EG: Hashstakers, Upgrades
...you're just a pump and dumper. I have always stated my "business plan" 1. withdraw 50% Fiat to another exchange, 2. Stake on / off cycles, EG: today I charged the 90's and the Immortals and when the 90's cycle charge more primes and buy Stakers. Rinse and Repeat. This would give a quarterly influx of XPY for reinvestment.
...only invest what you can afford to loose. I will be the first to say... QUIT eff'n saying this. Out here in the real world where the bottom 50% of the lower 80% of the "Tops" list live, thats not even a realistic statement. When you are promised, (Josh's exact words) access to Fiat in time for Christmas, you feel reasonable assured that you can take the chance at higher profits, and provide better than you would have been able to. Oh you can shop Paybase on Monday... well could have. You will have access to Fait... 30 days after whenever Paybase is released. You can move XPY to another exchange ... I tried that today.
http://1drv.ms/1wcDlwNSo I fully expect to get BANNED for this post. But you can only..."Rope a Dope" someone for so long, then the illusion is gone.
~~ Especially when you have to try and explain to your children that ^^ #4 happened, that you are going to get evicted because you spent the rent $ to give them Christmas... its not THEIR fault and they shouldn't have to suffer.
~~ OR when you have to explain to your Fiance that ^^#4 happened and you dont have the $ for the rental to spend the Holidays with her Family.
THERE ARE REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES., we are not just customer #'s, or handles on HT. So here is my inventory
http://1drv.ms/1JFwab1 I EXPECT to here from someone at HQ.
~~ I will accept a buyout of 20% lower than the FULL RETAIL value of my inventory.
~~ AS far as the XPY (65) lost wherever, and the XPY currently Staked, I will also accept 25% lower than the stated $20USD FLOOR value which is consistently stated EVERYWHERE. This would be a total of 150 XPY not counting what is waiting to be converted.
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> TO THOSE SCREAMING FUD... I HAVE SAID THAT MY FAITH AND TRUST IS NOT NECESSARILY IN JOSH, BUT RATHER IN DAVE.
HE'S THE ONE HOW GOT ME STARTED HERE. WHEN HE'S DISGRUNTLED ALSO, THIS CONFIRMS THAT ITS NOT JUST ME.
OH... HE HAS 6 FIGURES INVESTED HE, SO HE'S NOT ONE OF THE LITTLE FISH
