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4/7*= Possibly/partially legit based on criteria set forth. Based on wider context: more suspicious than a nun squatting in a cucumber field
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudmining-101-ponzi-risk-assessment-878387
Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2351. (Read 3377790 times)
December 01, 2014, 03:07:00 AM
After reading some more, Ive decided to update my rating for GAW's cloudmining:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudmining-101-ponzi-risk-assessment-878387
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudmining-101-ponzi-risk-assessment-878387
December 01, 2014, 02:56:20 AM
Lot of panicky bitcoin purists in here giving it the old angry circlejerk....
Lot of stupid shills coming in here adding nothing to the discussion....
This isn't a discussion... It's been a place for gathering anti-GAW sentiment from the outset. (don't call me stoopid ...
)It's up to you to make it a discussion, unless all you really wanted was to come here and make that statement, in which case - well done.
December 01, 2014, 02:49:50 AM
Everyone is so lucky. GAW just announced CashTakers are back in stock for a limited time only. Go grab them now whle you can. NOT!
Meh. This is a better trick:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/539308868049047553
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Want to know primes new trick? 9pm eastern 12/3/2014
We shall learn how to upgrade our most profitable Primes to most profitable Takers.
December 01, 2014, 02:45:14 AM
He is milking the shit out of these people.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
What i still can't get my head around though is why he bought btc.com.... that was a confirmed $1 million wasn't it? Why would you buy that if you can't get a return and could keep the cash in untraceable BTC.
Long con to get publicity and trust. He even tried helping knc victims. I almost looked into gaw before I figured out hashlets are fake.
People even believe the picture of the hashtaker.
O well come arrest i guess Tim Draper can bid on and win btc.com
. That guys like the man benefiting from all the BTC crimes with real fiat haha.Yeah i was in but glad i'm out. I did want to believe but it didn't make sense though i must confess this was my first attempt at mining since physical miners were work so i thought hey why not give cloud mining a go. GAW seemed attractive only due to its never obsolete thing i could handle no profit but i didn't want to go negative. I took the 10 GH for free on trial watched it for 2 days did some calcs bought some more. Before i knew it i was 300 MH of prime in and 90 something of zens..... Then i read their forums and cringed when i saw the crazy beliefs it was like a cult... the promises and AMA's josh did proved to not exist then i got scared and ran. From now on i'm going to only hold my bitcoin and increase holdings over time. It'll be useful as a currency one day or an investment return. If not i only lose 10% of my investment standings.
HAHA o fuck me this is gold... check out the zen market on primes cheapest first you see this
almost 900 prime entries for sale and climbing
I said primes would tank once volder was off the top 10, then he came here to comment and who comes riding his coattail, the CEO himself, and we haven't talked.. No inside info here kids. 900 for sale, lmfao.
December 01, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
Lot of panicky bitcoin purists in here giving it the old angry circlejerk....
Lot of stupid shills coming in here adding nothing to the discussion....
This isn't a discussion... It's been a place for gathering anti-GAW sentiment from the outset. (don't call me stoopid ...
) 
December 01, 2014, 02:42:25 AM
Lot of panicky bitcoin purists in here giving it the old angry circlejerk....
How many datacenter optimized wallets did you buy?
December 01, 2014, 02:39:23 AM
Everyone is so lucky. GAW just announced CashTakers are back in stock for a limited time only. Go grab them now whle you can. NOT!
December 01, 2014, 02:36:16 AM
Lot of panicky bitcoin purists in here giving it the old angry circlejerk....
Lot of stupid shills coming in here adding nothing to the discussion....
December 01, 2014, 02:35:01 AM
Lot of panicky bitcoin purists in here giving it the old angry circlejerk....
December 01, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
He is milking the shit out of these people.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
What i still can't get my head around though is why he bought btc.com.... that was a confirmed $1 million wasn't it? Why would you buy that if you can't get a return and could keep the cash in untraceable BTC.
Long con to get publicity and trust. He even tried helping knc victims. I almost looked into gaw before I figured out hashlets are fake.
People even believe the picture of the hashtaker.
O well come arrest i guess Tim Draper can bid on and win btc.com
. That guys like the man benefiting from all the BTC crimes with real fiat haha.Yeah i was in but glad i'm out. I did want to believe but it didn't make sense though i must confess this was my first attempt at mining since physical miners were work so i thought hey why not give cloud mining a go. GAW seemed attractive only due to its never obsolete thing i could handle no profit but i didn't want to go negative. I took the 10 GH for free on trial watched it for 2 days did some calcs bought some more. Before i knew it i was 300 MH of prime in and 90 something of zens..... Then i read their forums and cringed when i saw the crazy beliefs it was like a cult... the promises and AMA's josh did proved to not exist then i got scared and ran. From now on i'm going to only hold my bitcoin and increase holdings over time. It'll be useful as a currency one day or an investment return. If not i only lose 10% of my investment standings.
HAHA o fuck me this is gold... check out the zen market on primes cheapest first you see this
almost 900 prime entries for sale and climbing
December 01, 2014, 02:02:34 AM
He is milking the shit out of these people.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
What i still can't get my head around though is why he bought btc.com.... that was a confirmed $1 million wasn't it? Why would you buy that if you can't get a return and could keep the cash in untraceable BTC.
Long con to get publicity and trust. He even tried helping knc victims. I almost looked into gaw before I figured out hashlets are fake.
People even believe the picture of the hashtaker.
December 01, 2014, 01:59:52 AM
He is milking the shit out of these people.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket.
What i still can't get my head around though is why he bought btc.com.... that was a confirmed $1 million wasn't it? Why would you buy that if you can't get a return and could keep the cash in untraceable BTC.
December 01, 2014, 01:56:47 AM
He is milking the shit out of these people.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket. He's even conning the shipping charge a la ebay 2006.
He will definitely be in cnn, wsj media blitz. Once he's arrested.
Bitcoin is so cheap, why are they too greedy and impatient to just hodl Bitcoin? That shipping charge alone could buy 0.25 btc. Yet it's going into Joshs pocket. He's even conning the shipping charge a la ebay 2006.
December 01, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
Clear as mud:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/20701
Hahahahaha sometimes I can't believe the stupid shit that comes out of this guys mouth
https://hashtalk.org/topic/20701
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GAW_CEO
Admins
Global Moderator
Industry Innovator
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
Admins
Global Moderator
Industry Innovator
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
Hahahahaha sometimes I can't believe the stupid shit that comes out of this guys mouth
Look at the sentence preceeding it:
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While the majority of the technical community has commended us for the innovations behind Paycoin, we have had constructively critical feedback as well. Chief among the issues raised were “not enough innovation” and Paycoin’s centralized nature.
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
So which the fuck is it? Its so innovative its beyond comprehension.... yet its not innovative enough?
This is how it actually went
GAW : Hey we have this thing we want to make.. its got hyper flexchain technology
Developers : Hyper what now... whats that even mean?
GAW : You know the chainflexes in a way that makes it really hyper
Developers :
?GAW : Sigh yet another set of developers who's powers its beyond.
Its beyond their powers because it makes no fucking sense and the developers question that.
Heres how the system really works
Premine the fuck out of it to give people staking rewards. Sorry they aren't premining the... "investors" get a lot of the coins. The investors aren't shown due to NDA so assume all the coins are really in his control for payouts
Sell cashtakers err hashstakers... the more you own the more you can bid for the prime controllers
Prime controllers are just transaction nodes under control of gaw... if you bid lots you just get a virtual icon that shows you get the payout from it
Transactions will be faster because blocktimes will be lower or instant because nobody else is in the network and they trust their own shit so it can be instant.
Control the ecosystem with more cash in with disappearing stakers you have to buy back each 3 months.
But this isn't the sadest thing... what i think is really sad is they are talking now about people buying hashlets and gear for their children for christmas. One poster said their kid loves watching dad use zencloud so he's getting some of his own. There was a 15 year old on the forum outright saying their age and that they are buying stuff... but he asked Josh and its ok... even though you aren't allowed to do it under 18. Young people are getting suckered and kids are being given for christmas the gift that keeps on taking ... err i mean staking
.Yeah this all used to be pretty funny but now it's starting to get kind of sad. Watching him sucker people into buying merchandise, people talking about taking out huge loans and getting their children involved....
December 01, 2014, 01:46:52 AM
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
We shopped the project around the world, and virtually every development team told us it was technically impossible to build.
Through perseverance, however, we found a group that was up to the challenge. Many things had to be invented to make it possible, and those inventions were not without a monumental cost to build.
Beyond the powers? Really? Sounds like hes reading a fairy-tale to all the kiddies after spiked milk and cookies.
What I find most disturbing is that it was so advanced that most said it was impossible YET they somehow did it in about a month or two BUT it all had to be read by and edited by his own damn customers. Who the fuck does he think he's kidding? All these people on HT that actually did contribute, have to be saying WTF? No one knows what the hell Paycoin is because it isn't. It's in a perpetual state of change being edited by who knows at the request of customers. He needs to be stopped before he bankrupts anyone. This is something that some people will not recover from.
We shopped the project around the world, and virtually every development team told us it was technically impossible to build.
Through perseverance, however, we found a group that was up to the challenge. Many things had to be invented to make it possible, and those inventions were not without a monumental cost to build.
Beyond the powers? Really? Sounds like hes reading a fairy-tale to all the kiddies after spiked milk and cookies.
What I find most disturbing is that it was so advanced that most said it was impossible YET they somehow did it in about a month or two BUT it all had to be read by and edited by his own damn customers. Who the fuck does he think he's kidding? All these people on HT that actually did contribute, have to be saying WTF? No one knows what the hell Paycoin is because it isn't. It's in a perpetual state of change being edited by who knows at the request of customers. He needs to be stopped before he bankrupts anyone. This is something that some people will not recover from.
You, of course, are quite correct. As I have said before, unfortunately there will be some suicides before this fiasco is all done and sorted out. It will hurt the credibility of crypto coins in the eyes of the general public also; as when this is done and over it will be a big news story how this GAW company scammed so many people out of their life savings and retirement funds. People even mortgaged their houses to buy his CashTakers.
Maybe then he will be on CNN, Forbes etc. He might be right about the major media..
December 01, 2014, 01:33:07 AM
Clear as mud:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/20701
Hahahahaha sometimes I can't believe the stupid shit that comes out of this guys mouth
https://hashtalk.org/topic/20701
Quote
GAW_CEO
Admins
Global Moderator
Industry Innovator
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
Admins
Global Moderator
Industry Innovator
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
Hahahahaha sometimes I can't believe the stupid shit that comes out of this guys mouth
Look at the sentence preceeding it:
Quote
While the majority of the technical community has commended us for the innovations behind Paycoin, we have had constructively critical feedback as well. Chief among the issues raised were “not enough innovation” and Paycoin’s centralized nature.
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
Paycoin is so advanced, it was beyond the powers of nearly every developer we talked to about it.
So which the fuck is it? Its so innovative its beyond comprehension.... yet its not innovative enough?
This is how it actually went
GAW : Hey we have this thing we want to make.. its got hyper flexchain technology
Developers : Hyper what now... whats that even mean?
GAW : You know the chainflexes in a way that makes it really hyper
Developers :
?GAW : Sigh yet another set of developers who's powers its beyond.
Its beyond their powers because it makes no fucking sense and the developers question that.
Heres how the system really works
Premine the fuck out of it to give people staking rewards. Sorry they aren't premining the... "investors" get a lot of the coins. The investors aren't shown due to NDA so assume all the coins are really in his control for payouts
Sell cashtakers err hashstakers... the more you own the more you can bid for the prime controllers
Prime controllers are just transaction nodes under control of gaw... if you bid lots you just get a virtual icon that shows you get the payout from it
Transactions will be faster because blocktimes will be lower or instant because nobody else is in the network and they trust their own shit so it can be instant.
Control the ecosystem with more cash in with disappearing stakers you have to buy back each 3 months.
But this isn't the sadest thing... what i think is really sad is they are talking now about people buying hashlets and gear for their children for christmas. One poster said their kid loves watching dad use zencloud so he's getting some of his own. There was a 15 year old on the forum outright saying their age and that they are buying stuff... but he asked Josh and its ok... even though you aren't allowed to do it under 18. Young people are getting suckered and kids are being given for christmas the gift that keeps on taking ... err i mean staking
. December 01, 2014, 01:26:01 AM
The problem is they are not using Paybase to process this transaction. Silly mistakes like this won't happen once GAW is in control of the whole payment process of buying goods online.
December 01, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
December 01, 2014, 01:21:47 AM
Just in case there was any doubt...
https://hashtalk.org/topic/20681/hashlet-primes
But seriously, I have sold investors in on my plan (to the tune of $100 million). But since nothing is set in stone I can and will change the whole thing up based on the feedback I get from myherd friends here.
But seriously, even though I have a plan in mind that I can't share with you, I need ideas, cause...umm...this whole thing is heading towards tits up if i can't string something else together.
5 BTC? Is that enough?
https://hashtalk.org/topic/20681/hashlet-primes
Quote from: Gaw_CEO
What would you all like to see happen next?
(To those who say I use customer feedback to create ideas, that’s exactly what what I do. )
But seriously, I have had a plan in mind for a while and I think it still provides the greatest upside, but I always like hearing your suggestions before it’s set in stone.
(To those who say I use customer feedback to create ideas, that’s exactly what what I do. )
But seriously, I have had a plan in mind for a while and I think it still provides the greatest upside, but I always like hearing your suggestions before it’s set in stone.
But seriously, I have sold investors in on my plan (to the tune of $100 million). But since nothing is set in stone I can and will change the whole thing up based on the feedback I get from my
But seriously, even though I have a plan in mind that I can't share with you, I need ideas, cause...umm...this whole thing is heading towards tits up if i can't string something else together.
5 BTC? Is that enough?
Yeah I think he's really just flying by the seat of his pants right now.
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