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Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2414. (Read 3377790 times)

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For the quote scrapbook:

"Coinfire: be careful with how much you try to get my attention. You will not like it when you get it. I will use our entire war-chest to defend ourselves against libelous claims, be ready."
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legendary
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That was kind of expected after the CEO said he needs to stop mentioning those companies due to NDAs. What's more interesting is the reaction on HT, where posters either try to discredit CF or even deny that those retailers were ever mentioned. Looks like history can be rewritten after all.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/19352

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

BB is not happy:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/19378

(edit: I have no clue what the "hotel on Mars" is referring to or what facts coinfire were caught making up months ago)

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GAW_CEO
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Response to the Coinfire "Article"

The article is hogwash.

They never reached out to us once, or cited any sources.

A few months ago, I caught them making up "facts" and confronted them. I guess they hold a grudge Smiley

So I know they have a better way to get ahold of me......

These guys have a reputation for making up "facts," (did you hear we have a hotel on Mars now?) They offer no sources with their articles. There is not a chance in H*ll that any billion-dollar retailer would talk to any of those guys. Go look at the quality of the articles they write, then look at their Alexa score:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinfire.cf

They get less traffic than almost every other site in this industry. They are not even on the charts! You tell me, would Wal-Mart disclose a confidential deal they are working on to them?

This is a publicity stunt to capture more readers, nothing more. For shame.

Coinfire: GAW will defend itself against libelous claims, such as those in your "article."

Here are the actual facts:

First, since most of you did your homework and figured out who some of the partners of our company will be, (since we met with them earlier in the week,) then you can connect the dots on how we're able to connect with large merchants......

Second, I already over-stepped our NDA once by disclosing partnerships, and I won't do it again. All I will say is that if any company announced our partnership, they would be in violation of their NDA with us, too. We will respect and honor our agreements until the time that we can disclose them.

Paycoin will be able to be used at tier-one merchants, either directly or through a debit card in the coming months.
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▰▰▰ Global Cryptocurrency Paymen
People who sold got lucky because the prices and payments kept going down. Had there been anothere hashlet hype or bitcoin pump they would be the losers.
It's a gamble, you never know what the day will bring. Maybe tomorrow bitcoin reaches $400 or drops to $300. Maybe paycoin gets some media attention and skyrockets, I wish them all the best.
MOB
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Still think we need a thread:  Non-GAW/ZEN uncensored discussion.  ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

Because I could use some good advice on making some btc. Wink

Some people made good money on GAW. We're talking about a company that paid over 1 million USD for a domain and even more for antminers. Don't cross them out yet. Wink

Can anyone who bought at $50 (or God forbid, $70) claim the same of a Prime purchase?

legendary
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Still think we need a thread:  Non-GAW/ZEN uncensored discussion.  ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

Because I could use some good advice on making some btc. Wink

You are not going to make money mining. If someone had a miner that would make btc they would plug it in instead of selling or renting it to you.

Use cash to buy coins or trade other goods or services for coins.
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That was kind of expected after the CEO said he needs to stop mentioning those companies due to NDAs. What's more interesting is the reaction on HT, where posters either try to discredit CF or even deny that those retailers were ever mentioned. Looks like history can be rewritten after all.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/19352

We've always been at war with Eastasia.
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How can mr hashking claim to not control ROI and at the same time guarantee ROI?

/rhetorical question
legendary
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Still think we need a thread:  Non-GAW/ZEN uncensored discussion.  ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

Because I could use some good advice on making some btc. Wink

It's simple. Make some fiat. Buy some BTC. I don't believe there is an easier way, not in mining anyway.
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What's with all these questions and demands. Can't people ever learn.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/19313

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I am not going to prove a thing to you. I am 100% ok with you not believing.

If your looking for a company to prove everything you ask, and control your payouts so you always win, your looking in the wrong place.

The proof is in actions, not words. Over 60%of our customers have achieved an ROI. And we are just going to keep at it.

Thanks for stopping by.
sr. member
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Still think we need a thread:  Non-GAW/ZEN uncensored discussion.  ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

Because I could use some good advice on making some btc. Wink
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Wow, it is Saturday night and the wacky punch is flowing freely on tap over there. Very strange what people will say or do to feed their denial of the facts.

Scott-
MOB
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After reading this article something tells me the Zenpool payouts will skyrocket in the next 24h.

Yes, I am sure you are correct in that ;p

Fees will drop, payouts will increase, and all will be forgiven.
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After reading this article something tells me the Zenpool payouts will skyrocket in the next 24h.
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That was kind of expected after the CEO said he needs to stop mentioning those companies due to NDAs. What's more interesting is the reaction on HT, where posters either try to discredit CF or even deny that those retailers were ever mentioned. Looks like history can be rewritten after all.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/19352

It is unbelievable the whitewashing of this. He said it and we all read it. Bunch of noobs over there with their heads up their butts.
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Before I got out of there I was suggesting that people download
the entire hashtalk site as evidence since obviously this whole
crap would end in lawsuits or some sort of law enforcement
would be forced to stop ignoring it.
legendary
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https://bpip.org

That was kind of expected after the CEO said he needs to stop mentioning those companies due to NDAs. What's more interesting is the reaction on HT, where posters either try to discredit CF or even deny that those retailers were ever mentioned. Looks like history can be rewritten after all.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/19352
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Well well well


https://coinfire.cf/2014/11/22/is-gaw-miners-lying-about-partnerships/


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Walmart confirmed via spokesperson Tara Greco that Walmart has no relation with GAW Miners, PayCoin or any project that Josh Garza or GAW Miners is involved with issuing the following statement to Coin Fire,


Walmart has no intention of expanding our current payment options to accept PayCoin from GAW Miners or any affiliate of the company. Any statements implying this is the case are false. Walmart offers a variety of payment methods in our stores and on our website for our customers which can be found online or in-store. We have no partnership with this company.

Target also confirmed to our team that much like Walmart it has no relation to paycoin, or GAW Miners with a spokesperson telling our editorial team,


Target does not have any record of any partnership with GAW Miners or anyone named Josh Garza. Any statement contrary to this is false. We have no intention of accepting “paycoin”.

Amazon went one step further with having an unnamed source at the company’s legal department tell us that,


If this company believes it can imply a partnership with Amazon we will be seeing them in court if they don’t stop doing so immediately.

The official statement from an Amazon spokesperson was just as telling if less bold reading,


Amazon is not affiliated or partnered with GAW Miners or paycoin. If this company wishes to list products on our website as a third-party seller they may do so. No partnership should be implied from those listings. Amazon has created a robust and international system that allows vendors to bring products to the Amazon.com website – but in no way does it imply a partnership with our company.

We also have no intentions of selling our merchandise through paycoin and refer our customers to the now accepted payment methods already on the Amazon site
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MOB
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This thread has some publicity. Perhaps it can help force Josh to give you your money back.

I will PM you his email address. Tell him, in a short summary, what happened and what you would like to see happen. (i.e., sell all hashlets withdraw all funds, have GAW issue a partial refund to make up the distance you fall short from ROI). Don't swear, use proper English, and clearly lay out your desired outcome.

If that fails, then contacting the BBB, SEC or other government bodies would be next. Scott can help you, I am sure.
legendary
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To sum up I feel very angry and cheated If this is how you treat new customers then what hope have you of going mainstream, I have already complained to Ic3 and Sec does anyone else have any Ideas on how to get my money back from Gaw. If anyone is taking legal action against Gaw then please pm me.Thanks for any advice.

I'm sorry this happened to you and I'm even more sorry to say that your chances of getting anything back are slim (unless you paid with credit card as MOB suggested above).

At this time you can either cut the losses and sell, considering this an expensive lesson, or you can wait and see what options become available in the future. There were hints that maintenance fees may go down, which should increase the Market prices and you might be able to sell your hashlets for more. It depends on how much you can afford to risk and how patient you are.
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