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I have a question since I see a few names I would trust in this forum. What cloud mining service do you use or would you use at this point. Not to veer off course of the thread.Thanks in advance  

There's a thread for that already here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudmining-101-860400
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I have a question since I see a few names I would trust in this forum. What cloud mining service do you use or would you use at this point. Not to veer off course of the thread.Thanks in advance 
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Well at least there will be one good thing about Josh doing these PR releases on a couple news sites, he won't have control of the comments section on the article and videos. I would implore people from here to post on them when they come out, but be civil and make well founded points, try not to "troll".

Absolutely. We need to post well thought out questions and concerns. Play a little innocent and naive if need be but definitely use proper grammar and spelling.
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Well at least there will be one good thing about Josh doing these PR releases on a couple news sites, he won't have control of the comments section on the article and videos. I would implore people from here to post on them when they come out, but be civil and make well founded points, try not to "troll".
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
Making a mistake, admiting it and moving on : Great
Making a mistake, admiting it and blaming someone else : Not so great ...

There are lots of people on the market, most of the people will jump on a cheap hashlet it's no surprise they disapear quickly (and 2s is possible, i did that when i bought lots of prime one at a time you get used to it). Gaw have no interest in buying back their hashlets they are already making a lot of money with the 10% charge on a sell

Was not blaming anyone but myself. However it was not 2 seconds it was more like 0.5 seconds. Not humanely possible with a captcha in place so it was done through software, only a machine can react that fast.
As to who programed the software, that is the question.
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We need a GAW forum in here. Too many topics in one thread.
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He actually made a post that he won't change the way they are sold because of something to this effect "Some people like it the way it works. I can't please everyone." Really? Who likes it the way it is? He sure as hell does else he would change it to his liking and to his benefit just like everything else he's changed from payouts to how prime's work to the TOS.

I know right! That's what makes this old post of his so funny:

Look, this is the bottom line. In business you should never change a deal you already made. Period.

I have run many companies (50m plus), and I have made many deals I did not like. But I always homered a deal once I made it.
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
Making a mistake, admiting it and moving on : Great
Making a mistake, admiting it and blaming someone else : Not so great ...

There are lots of people on the market, most of the people will jump on a cheap hashlet it's no surprise they disapear quickly (and 2s is possible, i did that when i bought lots of prime one at a time you get used to it). Gaw have no interest in buying back their hashlets they are already making a lot of money with the 10% charge on a sell

Yea, I'd have to agree... Them buying their own hashlets that are basically virtual machines that they create out of thin air makes no sense..

Makes more sense people are constantly browsing the market and/or bots are at work.

Well, yes, GAW can create any number of virtual "hashlets" and put them on the market as they see fit.

However, a hashlet in the hands of a customer is a liability for the company, even if this means they have to pay virtual "nothingness" in the form of the hashpoint tokens.

So it makes perfect sense for GAW to just add a few lines of code to their totally controlled market in their totally controlled servers to strip a careless customer off their property.
Given the aggressiveness of the company,  given than everything we see on zenportal site is under total control of GAW, it is 100% certain that they do employ such tactics.

Besides, it has been asked again and again in hashtalk from people who have lost money to just add a simple check on sell prices and the software could warn the seller with a simple message like YOU ARE SELLING AT A VERY LOW PRICE, DO YOU AGREE TO MOVE ON?


Well, I guess GAW's servers do the checks alright. But not to warn the customer. To trigger an immediate buy so one less liability for GAW.




He actually made a post that he won't change the way they are sold because of something to this effect "Some people like it the way it works. I can't please everyone." Really? Who likes it the way it is? He sure as hell does else he would change it to his liking and to his benefit just like everything else he's changed from payouts to how prime's work to the TOS.
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Yea, I'd have to agree... Them buying their own hashlets that are basically virtual machines that they create out of thin air makes no sense..

Makes more sense people are constantly browsing the market and/or bots are at work.

Yeah you got me there with the "thin air" comment. Maybe this is how "Craig" gets so many hashlets.

They could very well be buying up all the incorrectly listed Hashlets via a bot with accounts they control and then re-listing them priced properly. They would still make 10% off the sales. 5% from the original sellers sale and 5% from the final buyers buy. They only hold the Hashlets for a short time in-between buying and selling them. Just a thought.
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Yea, I'd have to agree... Them buying their own hashlets that are basically virtual machines that they create out of thin air makes no sense..

Makes more sense people are constantly browsing the market and/or bots are at work.

It makes a lot of sense to grab the pricing errors, and resell them - nearly 100% profit instead of 10%. They also refuse to implement even the simplest fix for the pricing errors, i.e. entering the price by MH/s or GH/s instead of the total.

The only reason I don't quite believe this conspiracy is that they don't seem to be technically capable of pulling off something like that without botching it.
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
Making a mistake, admiting it and moving on : Great
Making a mistake, admiting it and blaming someone else : Not so great ...

There are lots of people on the market, most of the people will jump on a cheap hashlet it's no surprise they disapear quickly (and 2s is possible, i did that when i bought lots of prime one at a time you get used to it). Gaw have no interest in buying back their hashlets they are already making a lot of money with the 10% charge on a sell

Yea, I'd have to agree... Them buying their own hashlets that are basically virtual machines that they create out of thin air makes no sense..

Makes more sense people are constantly browsing the market and/or bots are at work.

Well, yes, GAW can create any number of virtual "hashlets" and put them on the market as they see fit.

However, a hashlet in the hands of a customer is a liability for the company, even if this means they have to pay virtual "nothingness" in the form of the hashpoint tokens.

So it makes perfect sense for GAW to just add a few lines of code to their totally controlled market in their totally controlled servers to strip a careless customer off their property.
Given the aggressiveness of the company,  given than everything we see on zenportal site is under total control of GAW, it is 100% certain that they do employ such tactics.

Besides, it has been asked again and again in hashtalk from people who have lost money to just add a simple check on sell prices and the software could warn the seller with a simple message like YOU ARE SELLING AT A VERY LOW PRICE, DO YOU AGREE TO MOVE ON?


Well, I guess GAW's servers do the checks alright. But not to warn the customer. To trigger an immediate buy so one less liability for GAW.


MOB
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  

I thought this was already confirmed on the HT forums?

I saw a user claim that he sold quite a few Zen Hashlets at different prices. At a specific price (it was like $12.47 when he said this last week) the hashlet was instantly sold. He duplicated this several times.

It seems clear that GAW benefits from their terrible selling system. Those $1500 you lost? They just went in Josh's pocket. You made a dumb mistake, but it is also one that should not be possible.

They should have the same screen any brokerage uses with four variables:
Product Selling, amount selling, price selling/unit, duration of offer.


edit: Yes, it makes perfect sense for GAW to buy them back. You are not thinking about this correctly.

You gave GAW a loan for $1500, which they pay out interest of $X per day.  If someone else buys this loan from you, then they still pay out $X per day.

If someone accidentally prices that loan swap at 1% of its principal, then of course GAW will buy it back. Debt paid.

Imagine your credit card company accidentally offered to sell you the balance due on your credit card for 1% of its face value. What would you do?
MOB
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You guys should really leave his family out of this unless it relates to them being employees of GAW. This is getting way too personal and creepy. It's like a troll to use their broken analogy... just don't do business there.

The username find was gold btw:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/josg21-172454

Here's the mirror if the above gets sanitized:

https://bitcointa.lk/members/josg21.169508/


I admire this guy. Such an upstanding businessman.

Look, this is the bottom line. In business you should never change a deal you already made. Period.

I have run many companies (50m plus), and I have made many deals I did not like. But I always homered a deal once I made it.


I just appreciate that even when chewing someone out for changing the terms of their business agreement, he still manages to insert some great puns. I see what you did that Homero!

Instead of getting Gox'ed, we are all getting Homered! Wink
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Yea, I'd have to agree... Them buying their own hashlets that are basically virtual machines that they create out of thin air makes no sense..

Makes more sense people are constantly browsing the market and/or bots are at work.

Yeah you got me there with the "thin air" comment. Maybe this is how "Craig" gets so many hashlets.
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
Making a mistake, admiting it and moving on : Great
Making a mistake, admiting it and blaming someone else : Not so great ...

There are lots of people on the market, most of the people will jump on a cheap hashlet it's no surprise they disapear quickly (and 2s is possible, i did that when i bought lots of prime one at a time you get used to it). Gaw have no interest in buying back their hashlets they are already making a lot of money with the 10% charge on a sell

Including entering the captcha you could buy a hashlet in 2 seconds after it has been posted.  I'm sorry but it's not humanly possible.  
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
Making a mistake, admiting it and moving on : Great
Making a mistake, admiting it and blaming someone else : Not so great ...

There are lots of people on the market, most of the people will jump on a cheap hashlet it's no surprise they disapear quickly (and 2s is possible, i did that when i bought lots of prime one at a time you get used to it). Gaw have no interest in buying back their hashlets they are already making a lot of money with the 10% charge on a sell

Yea, I'd have to agree... Them buying their own hashlets that are basically virtual machines that they create out of thin air makes no sense..

Makes more sense people are constantly browsing the market and/or bots are at work.
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
Making a mistake, admiting it and moving on : Great
Making a mistake, admiting it and blaming someone else : Not so great ...

There are lots of people on the market, most of the people will jump on a cheap hashlet it's no surprise they disapear quickly (and 2s is possible, i did that when i bought lots of prime one at a time you get used to it). Gaw have no interest in buying back their hashlets they are already making a lot of money with the 10% charge on a sell
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  

Welcome to the club
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Well I just became one of the fools that accidentally sells a large block of MH on Zenportal for $10. I was selling some Zens at $10.24 ($10.75 after GAW adds its 5% to sale price and $9.73 to me after it takes its 5% cut from the seller) the miners move every time one is renamed or sold and it seems that they moved as I clicked and I didn't notice so I sold a batch of Hashlets I paid over $1500 for at a total price of $9.73.
The hashlets were literally gone before my finger came up from the click which makes me wonder if the suggestions on hashtalk (long since deleted) that GAW automatically buys all these mistake sales are true.


That sucks. I do believe they auto buy at a certain price threshold as well.

I am thoroughly convinced that GAW buys hashlets when they are listed under market value.  I put 80 MH/s up at $13 per mh/s when they were selling for $14 and before the webpage had gone back to my miner page after clicking the last accept button they were already gone so in less than maybe two seconds. Which means someone opened the market page, clicked pay, and clicked the last accept button in 2 seconds is just not possible.  
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You guys should really leave his family out of this unless it relates to them being employees of GAW. This is getting way too personal and creepy. It's like a troll to use their broken analogy... just don't do business there.

The username find was gold btw:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/josg21-172454

Here's the mirror if the above gets sanitized:

https://bitcointa.lk/members/josg21.169508/


I admire this guy. Such an upstanding businessman.

Look, this is the bottom line. In business you should never change a deal you already made. Period.

I have run many companies (50m plus), and I have made many deals I did not like. But I always homered a deal once I made it.
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