Topic: GAY MEN WANT KIM DAVIS BACK IN JAIL (Read 3633 times)

Between me and you, you are the ONLY ONE blabbing about "states rights" and "invisible sky god".

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read on this Forum. Any facts to back up your bullshit? Seriously, if you have facts I'll delete this post.

Bryant, why don't you just save us time and admit you hate gay people?

Kim Davis is a not a great Christian, she's a hypocrite...

• Greed - she continues to collect her paycheck even though her job now compromises her religious beliefs
• Sloth - she fails to resign from her post as keeping her post forces her to disobey her beliefs and compromises the religious conviction she is now "campaigning" on
• Wrath - she hates gay people who want to formalize their love for each other with the State by getting married
• Pride - she is so prideful of her "steadfast conviction" to Christian tenets that she will directly disobey the law and people that elected her to office

This woman needs to spend a lot of time reflecting on herself, who she is, what her beliefs really are. Then she needs to try to live her life to that model - if she believes gay marriage is a sin, she needs to resign and not take money for a job that she believes is the devil's work. She needs stop breaking the law. She needs to stop imposing her beliefs on her neighbors (which is what the earliest opponents to Jesus did to Christians with his crucification.)

You're entitled to your beliefs.

Your belief does not mean you have the right to take away the rights of others.

If you believe gays being married is a sin, then fine, that's your right. Do you believe sins should be enforced under threat of violence via law, and everyone should be jailed for all sins?  

The bible is old and outdated, many common things are "not allowed" if you take everything it says literally.

When most people look at the world around them, they see only the trees; they do not see the forest that is there. It should be obvious that God exists because of His creation, not only us humans, but the world we live in, the galaxy that world is in, and the universe that the galaxy is in.

I just found it amusing that you claim to only support non violent protests, yet this whole thing started because a certain group of people were using threat of force via laws to oppress a minority. But that's okay because blargh state's rights urgh, plus your invisible sky god said so. Speaking of insanity.

Yet a bigger bully comes along and does the same thing and it's suddenly a problem.

Why can't the religious folk stick to non violent protests? I'd be okay with that too.

It makes no difference what I think.  

I am only trying to clarify the underlying and substantive issue, because I don't care one rat's ass about you spewing polemic about some evil Republican religious knuckled dragging degenerates because you, sir, are no exemplary example of Enlightened and Progressive Humans, at least judging from past posts.  You are not the one standing up against anything, but simply coming along behind those who have done so, babbling, one voice in an ocean of babboons, one might say.

Let's here what your votes are on the two issues cited.

So you do support standing up against unjust laws like refusing to let gays marry, as long as it's someone who can't actually do anything about it.

Well, you see....we are pretty much in agreement on ALL OF THAT.  Now comes the difficult part.
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THE PRIVATE ISSUE:
Someone has a moral and ethical disagreement with a law, and is willing to stand up against it, in spite of possibly grave personal consequences (jail, public ridicule, etc).

HERO OR VILLAIN?
I say, as long as it's a non-violent protest, HERO.
That goes for MARIHUANA, IMMIGRATION, MARRIAGE.  And countless other issues.

THE PUBLIC ISSUE:
Public officials have a moral and ethical disagreement with a law (for now let's say it that way, the reality is often they are pushed in a direction by political pressures) and they enforce law selectively, and choose whom to punish selectively.

HERO OR VILLAIN?
I say VILLAIN. 
That goes for MARIHUANA, IMMIGRATION, MARRIAGE.  And countless other issues.

Laws should be enforced equally. However they are not.  I live in a commonwealth state.  Some laws and punishments to to be all over the place.  One person nailed with possession of marijuanna on there first offense can get 5 years while someone with the same charge and first offense can get 2 years.  Sentencing and laws seem to be all over the place.  It also goes on how much you have when caught.  Which shouldnt really matter.  Your in possession period.  1 gram or 3 grams it should still be the same.

It should never be about what the prosecuters want.  Thats just a bad idea. Thats opening a door to have them fry someone for whatever they feel they want.

It shouldnt be about what the political parties want either. We all know how that is already going.

What it should be about is what the majority of people want.  All people who would want to vote on laws.  Instead of voting on poloticians.

The law makers themselves in legislature should be bias on what laws are put into effect and what they vote to pass.but you know as well as I do.  That everyone has there opinion and that is what persuades a vote for law.  Its like being on jury duty.  12 people are supose to be unbias but everyone always has there own thoughts and opinions. 

Laws arent much different.  People (lawmakers) can and i am sure do use there own opinions to pass laws.

It should be about what us the people want and not what parties want or feel we the people should have.  I know there are many laws in place that I never voted for nor do I want them.

So laws need to change.  So fucking WHAT?  That's true anytime in the last hundred years on any number of subjects.

The laws that get enforced should be -

A.  Whatever prosecutors want
B.  Whatever you want.
C.  Whatever some group that shouts the loudest wants.
D.  Whatever your political party wants.
E.  Laws on the books need to be enforced equally.

Please stop the bitching, moaning, endless praise of your own point of view, demonizing of other people and their views, and try to simply think this matter through.

Suppose it is a battle of morals to laws.
Marijuana ain't that bad, but it is a federal-ly banned thing.
Which either means the law should change (which it will within 2 years) or they got to stop the state laws.

This country is built on immigrants, the only people who aren't immigrants are the Native Americans.

However, the whole love wins law was recently put in place, so people are more up in arms about that.

I think laws need to change.

You and the prior poster are misdirecting, to avoid the substantive argument made.  The misdirection is simply to flog the offensive illegality of the lady's action (or from another point of view, her heroic disobediance.)  But if you can't address the substantive argument, you are just expressing your own opinion that it's fine for one political group to selectively enforce and not enforce the law.  Hence my question -

Why pick on religion?  Is it somehow unique from other personal beliefs?

Let's NOT ENFORCE the federal law on IMMIGRATION and BORDERS.

Let's NOT ENFORCE the federal law on MARIHUANA.

FUCK YEAH, let's slap it to those religious bigots WHO WANT TO DISOBEY THE FEDERAL LAW.

Are you guys insane?

You are right.  It doesnt. But people in and that are highly religious and see things only there way need to understand this.  Most dont.  They think it is this way and this way only.
I dont see it much different as me blocking the door to a church.  Im blocking the door because I believe you shouldnt attend church.  So I wont let you.   I would never do that but.  Wouldnt be much difference.  Kim Davis should sit in jail for a while and be made an example out of.  She is in no place to say what happens to someone else. 

They should lock her up in a room filled with lesbians.  And have them talk about getting married all day.  Wonder if it would deive Kim nuts?   LoL

Then it'll be tossed out of court, or the judge will tell them to fuck off. People have the right to air greivances if they feel they have one. Don't be so quick to blindly accept something an authority figure says, just because it lines up with your personal beliefs.


 

Religion has very little to do with it, it's about the rights of the people to get married. Religion doesn't give you the right to take someone else's rights away. 

Awesome.....lol

She has the right to oppose to the gay marriage.

I love george soros, 0bama and al gore...

Hey, I have this really good idea.  The problem here is that this forum is unmoderated so people can say any disgusting lies they want.  We can fix this.  Here's how - just vote me in to moderate the forums, and then I'll ban people whom we don't like or want.  You know, it's for the common good.  Don't worry I'll figure the details on that out.  And everything will be a lot nicer because you won't hear or see a lot of negativity because they'll be gone.  I'm sure you understand that you'll have to stay within limits, too.  Reasonable limits, basically don't argue with anything I say and agree with my friends.   My friends will send me messages on who to handle different ways.  Some of them are secret friends and say outlandish things to try to provoke responses.   They help me find out who really isn't on our side.  If they're not, they're gone. 

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Who is Soros? Sorry, try to follow politics, heard of the name.
No idea of who/what he did.

I believe the same thing, but with democrats, when I think of Soros...


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