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legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Up to 10/10/2015

full member
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GM's payout seems to be falling. I guess it is more worth while to buy your own miners.

Wrong conclusion. With rising difficulty payouts for home miners are dropping, as well.

Mining at home only makes sense if (i) you have free (or very cheap electricity) available and (ii) if you do not take into account the time you spend for setting up and maintaining the machine.

sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
GM's payout seems to be falling. I guess it is more worth while to buy your own miners.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 1736
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Up to 10/9/2015...funny how that bump in BTC didn't translate to a bump in payout this time around.  Maybe it's two days behind!  Realistically, unless we can see pool or mining statistics, we'll never really know what the relationships are.

full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
Up to 10/8/2015...a bit of a bump in BTC but not payout.



This is what i don't understand. how can btc price go up but not the pay out?

I think the price lacks one day; so the pricing on the previous day is relevant because they will probably do the BTC/USD conversion during that day. It could also be because the price is changing during the day, or pool luck could also play a role.
newbie
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Up to 10/8/2015...a bit of a bump in BTC but not payout.

https://i.imgur.com/KHPnuW5.jpg

This is what i don't understand. how can btc price go up but not the pay out?
sr. member
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Hi Everyone.

Just wanted to remind everyone that payouts can be anytime each day between Midnight and 23:59 UTC time.
So on one day you might get a payout in the morning, another day in the evening and then in the morning again. It will vary every day.

We have had a lot of support tickets this evening with people asking about their payouts.

You can find out the time in UTC by typing "time in utc" in Google.

Currently as I type this it is just 8:32 PM UTC.

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legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Up to 10/8/2015...a bit of a bump in BTC but not payout.

member
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are payouts delayed? my last one was Oct. 7
member
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Right. And all current GM contracts will be underwater when block halving occurs next summer and fees > revenue at current bitcoin price range. Buying any bitcoin mining contract at GM right now is high risk. You are placing a bet that bitcoin price will double by next summer. The trouble with that type of bet is GM is the house and the house always wins. You need to look for hosted bitcoin mining with daily fees that are half of what GM charges if you want to give yourself any type of edge.

Don't need to "invest" in cloudmining if Bitcoin price double, you just have to buy Bitcoins now and you will have twice the value next summer.
Cloudmining is a monkey business, the winners are GM and its HUGE%DISCOUNT dealers.
full member
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Still no payout. Too bad...

And no gesture of goodwill for the oldest customers. Not sure you will still go a long way GM. Customers who don't ROI won't reinvest.

You've signed a contract with a predetermined fee.

It is not the fault of GM when the Bitcoin price too low, or the Difficulty is too high and the contract is no longer profitable.

Even the new contracts with lower fees are a losing proposition. But I speculate on rising prices. Of course, this can also totally go wrong and my money is gone. The risk is always there.

Seemingly still think people that here would be a magic money printing machine. But it's a high-risk investment. In a still experimental cryptographic currency.

And if GM would everyone pay compensation, the company would be bankrupt within days. Why should they give away money? They are also a profit-oriented company.


You got it right Soylent Green!

Everyone is responsible for his own investment. People should stop whining and blaming someone else. If you do not understand the risks, you should not invest. I am doing lots of investments and some work out and some do not - that is how it is. GM is doing exactly what they promised according to the contract.

And I came to the same conclusion: their X11 contracts look like a good investment opportunity!

legendary
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Merit: 1164
Still no payout. Too bad...

And no gesture of goodwill for the oldest customers. Not sure you will still go a long way GM. Customers who don't ROI won't reinvest.

You've signed a contract with a predetermined fee.

It is not the fault of GM when the Bitcoin price too low, or the Difficulty is too high and the contract is no longer profitable.

Even the new contracts with lower fees are a losing proposition. But I speculate on rising prices. Of course, this can also totally go wrong and my money is gone. The risk is always there.

Seemingly still think people that here would be a magic money printing machine. But it's a high-risk investment. In a still experimental cryptographic currency.

And if GM would everyone pay compensation, the company would be bankrupt within days. Why should they give away money? They are also a profit-oriented company.


Right. And all current GM contracts will be underwater when block halving occurs next summer and fees > revenue at current bitcoin price range. Buying any bitcoin mining contract at GM right now is high risk. You are placing a bet that bitcoin price will double by next summer. The trouble with that type of bet is GM is the house and the house always wins. You need to look for hosted bitcoin mining with daily fees that are half of what GM charges if you want to give yourself any type of edge.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Still no payout. Too bad...

And no gesture of goodwill for the oldest customers. Not sure you will still go a long way GM. Customers who don't ROI won't reinvest.

You've signed a contract with a predetermined fee.

It is not the fault of GM when the Bitcoin price too low, or the Difficulty is too high and the contract is no longer profitable.

Even the new contracts with lower fees are a losing proposition. But I speculate on rising prices. Of course, this can also totally go wrong and my money is gone. The risk is always there.

Seemingly still think people that here would be a magic money printing machine. But it's a high-risk investment. In a still experimental cryptographic currency.

And if GM would everyone pay compensation, the company would be bankrupt within days. Why should they give away money? They are also a profit-oriented company.
hero member
Activity: 821
Merit: 503
What happen if contact 1 year x11 expire?

i will get back my  btc or no?

NO, you get EVERYONE's BTC back .....
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Up to 10/7/2015...another bit of a bump in payout.

sr. member
Activity: 430
Merit: 250
Hi Genesis Mining community!

We have updated the X11 Mining allocation page to include some more choices like we have on our SHA 256 mining allocation page.

X11 miners can allocate hashpower to

Dash
Startcoin 
BTC(AUTO)

We have added the following:

Litecoin (AUTO)
Doge (AUTO)
BTCD (AUTO)

Do not forget (AUTO) means Autotrade and this means mining profitable X11 coins and then returns are traded to the (AUTO) coin you have allocated hashpower to and paid out in that coin.


legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
100 MH/s cost $1805

Dashcoin with 100 MH/s = $12.62 daily = $378,6 monthly

ROI = 4,8 Month


With 500 MH/s a ROI of 4,1 possible


Of course at current price and without difficulty change.
could be faster or way longer. but i think a acceptable profit is possible in lifetime of the contract.
if you are able to watch the X11 coins and switch mined coin @ GM accordingly

would love to test it. somebody lend me 10 BTC? Cheesy

No need, i purchased 300 MH/s so I am the guinea pig here.

As payouts with BTC (AUTO) are around 0.0003 BTC per MH/s I was expecting around 0.09 BTC a day. Although we shall see ..haha..

I was just going to leave it on BTC (AUTO) cos if Dash and Startcoin go up in value against BTC then surely my BTC payouts would increase as well as BTC (AUTO) is based on X11 coins being traded and paid out to BTC...I guess if you mine Dash and then hang onto it and then sell when price is high and buy back when price is low you could do ok..But I am terrible at that
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 500
100 MH/s cost $1805

Dashcoin with 100 MH/s = $12.62 daily = $378,6 monthly

ROI = 4,8 Month


With 500 MH/s a ROI of 4,1 possible


Of course at current price and without difficulty change.
could be faster or way longer. but i think a acceptable profit is possible in lifetime of the contract.
if you are able to watch the X11 coins and switch mined coin @ GM accordingly

would love to test it. somebody lend me 10 BTC? Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
What happen if contact 1 year x11 expire?

i will get back my  btc or no?

Haha, I assume you mean your initial investment. NO, you will not get back your initial BTC.

BTW, can anyone comment on X11 GM profitability or potential ROI? Since there are no fees, it should depend ONLY on diff and price. I highly doubt this new product is worth of any attention since GM has proven to be nothing but loss for its investors but I still want to ask.  

Ive been posting payouts based on 1MH/s X11 on my thread, is worth a look to give you an idea. Will be adding Hashnest S7 payouts when they are available.
As you will see, at the moment BTC payouts using BTC (AUTO) with X11, are almost double the payouts for SHA 256 50GH/s lifetime contracts.
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