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Topic: Genuine Serial keys for Games/Software at discount price, hurry while stock last - page 2. (Read 6828 times)

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Well it's pretty cool he wants to take BTC and if I needed a game I'd probably do it.
legendary
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most likely, his keys are russian cd keys. that's why they're so cheap (it's to compete with the pirates, or something like that, not sure though). also, his prices are wayyy too high. most cd key stores sell for $20-30 for major games, and you can get them for even cheaper ($15) if you deal directly with the russians over at plati.ru.
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Quick question.

http://www.cdkeysdirect.com/

Is your site or you just linked it for reference to what you have?
vip
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@stonez + casascius  : I bet you guys have never played any online game. There is no way and no software can generate legit serial keys for games which genuine key is required to play online (i.e Starcraft 2 , steam games etc..). In fact, most modern games usually support multi-player mode, this must have a genuine key to use the multi-player function and with my keys, you will have no problem at all playing games online. Additionally, stop using "pirated/stolen" in my topic since you have no evidence for your argument so its invalid.

In the end, I just want to support the new and small bitcoin community thus I'm offering my business under bitcoin transaction. You can do a which google to see the site I've mentined above for its reputation, easy and simple. And seriously its so funny that somebody thinks trading software here is more serious than drug and guns trafficking.


I'm not looking to accuse you of piracy, merely pointing out that it's not sufficient to sell software as "genuine" with no proof beyond your word alone.

The idea that only legit serial numbers will work in online games is an assumption, not a fact.  Some games let the same serial number work multiple times, some don't.  Some check it, some don't.  Some serial number schemes allow hackers to predict other valid serial numbers.  Having a key that works online favors a presumption of legitimacy.  On the other hand, having no plausible reason for having a whole bunch of CD keys besides having made a secret "bulk purchase" of CD keys from an unnamable source strongly favors a presumption of piracy.

When offering "genuine" software, the burden of proof that the software is genuine is on the seller, not the other way around.  "Genuine" also implies that the software is legally resellable.  I have a genuine copy of numerous Microsoft titles - complete with the "genuine" hologram - along with corresponding CD keys because I subscribed to one of their developer programs, but I can't legally resell them.  If I posted them as "genuine MS software for sale", it would be misleading and technically illegal, although no doubt each CD key would work.  Academic and beta software would also count as less than "genuine".

As for guns and drugs...if someone offered an ounce and sold a gram, or offered a bazooka and sold a .22, they'd get the same flack.  The issue at hand is properly describing what's for sale.
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@stonez + casascius  : I bet you guys have never played any online game. There is no way and no software can generate legit serial keys for games which genuine key is required to play online (i.e Starcraft 2 , steam games etc..). In fact, most modern games usually support multi-player mode, this must have a genuine key to use the multi-player function and with my keys, you will have no problem at all playing games online. Additionally, stop using "pirated/stolen" in my topic since you have no evidence for your argument so its invalid.

In the end, I just want to support the new and small bitcoin community thus I'm offering my business under bitcoin transaction. You can do a which google to see the site I've mentined above for its reputation, easy and simple. And seriously its so funny that somebody thinks trading software here is more serious than drug and guns trafficking.


First off I'm not saying that yours are pirated / stolen.
2nd, I don't care if they are, btc is good for black market things too.
3rd I'm with you on the part about not being able to generate legit keys for online games. 

I'm glad you're here and hope you can sell a few and they check out as legit. You'll probably do really well here if they are.
I'm not going to assume they're pirated / stolen or whatever and I'm not going to assume they're legit. I'm not in the market to buy games right now so I'll let someone else give it a try.

You agree people should be careful who they buy cd keys from right? People get scammed all the time in that business. Good thing is if you build a rep you'll get a lot of business.





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@stonez + casascius  : I bet you guys have never played any online game. There is no way and no software can generate legit serial keys for games which genuine key is required to play online (i.e Starcraft 2 , steam games etc..). In fact, most modern games usually support multi-player mode, this must have a genuine key to use the multi-player function and with my keys, you will have no problem at all playing games online. Additionally, stop using "pirated/stolen" in my topic since you have no evidence for your argument so its invalid.

In the end, I just want to support the new and small bitcoin community thus I'm offering my business under bitcoin transaction. You can do a which google to see the site I've mentined above for its reputation, easy and simple. And seriously its so funny that somebody thinks trading software here is more serious than drug and guns trafficking.
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To pirate CD keys, somebody hacks the game to determine what it takes to generate a code that the software will accept as valid, and then they generate new codes that satisfy that algorithm.  Or they distribute a cracked version of the software that accepts codes that otherwise aren't valid.  Both of these are done by reverse engineering the compiled game code with a debugger.


You are way off. You can't do that on any online game nor to any online downloading tool like Steam or EA Download Manager.

He said CD keys so I'm assuming he's talking about plain old buy a cd and install it type not steam etc.
Of course a lot of people download the iso's and use keys they got from his method.
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To pirate CD keys, somebody hacks the game to determine what it takes to generate a code that the software will accept as valid, and then they generate new codes that satisfy that algorithm.  Or they distribute a cracked version of the software that accepts codes that otherwise aren't valid.  Both of these are done by reverse engineering the compiled game code with a debugger.


You are way off. You can't do that on any online game nor to any online downloading tool like Steam or EA Download Manager.
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those keys are not pirated, they are being sold in Russia/Poland for like 33%/50% of their value, if you compare EU prices ... even cheaper

want Crysis 2, it is 30 BTC and Limited edition for 57 ?

We're not saying that they are pirated. Just that there is no proof they aren't.
With how much more common pirated keys are than cheap legit keys it makes sense to be suspicious.
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those keys are not pirated, they are being sold in Russia/Poland for like 33%/50% of their value, if you compare EU prices ... even cheaper

want Crysis 2, it is 30 BTC and Limited edition for 57 ?
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My advice if it is pirated software is just lower the price, admit it's pirated and still sell it here.
I don't think that would be a problem. Like Diablo said, people are selling drugs here. Your pirated software is fine.
I'm not going to buy it but I'm sure someone else will. On the other hand if it's legit then stick to that but like he said don't expect people to jump on it if you can't reasonably prove it.

I don't get how can a valid cd key can be "pirated". Did the steal it at the software house? -_-

To pirate CD keys, somebody hacks the game to determine what it takes to generate a code that the software will accept as valid, and then they generate new codes that satisfy that algorithm.  Or they distribute a cracked version of the software that accepts codes that otherwise aren't valid.  Both of these are done by reverse engineering the compiled game code with a debugger.

Exactly. Or they could be stolen codes. Not really pirated per se but same idea more or less.
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My advice if it is pirated software is just lower the price, admit it's pirated and still sell it here.
I don't think that would be a problem. Like Diablo said, people are selling drugs here. Your pirated software is fine.
I'm not going to buy it but I'm sure someone else will. On the other hand if it's legit then stick to that but like he said don't expect people to jump on it if you can't reasonably prove it.

I don't get how can a valid cd key can be "pirated". Did the steal it at the software house? -_-

To pirate CD keys, somebody hacks the game to determine what it takes to generate a code that the software will accept as valid, and then they generate new codes that satisfy that algorithm.  Or they distribute a cracked version of the software that accepts codes that otherwise aren't valid.  Both of these are done by reverse engineering the compiled game code with a debugger.
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My advice if it is pirated software is just lower the price, admit it's pirated and still sell it here.
I don't think that would be a problem. Like Diablo said, people are selling drugs here. Your pirated software is fine.
I'm not going to buy it but I'm sure someone else will. On the other hand if it's legit then stick to that but like he said don't expect people to jump on it if you can't reasonably prove it.

I don't get how can a valid cd key can be "pirated". Did the steal it at the software house? -_-
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Fair enough, I do have the original invoice for the "bulk" buy for my keys, however I do not want to disclose that kind of information to my customer. In addition, some of the games I do have original box, however due to the shipping cost I've decide to do business with digital version - serial key only.

@Diablo : Check this out http://www.cdkeysdirect.com/

Both the arrangement and the website have all the hallmarks of selling pirated software.  I simply do not believe that your "bulk" bought keys, nor anything sold by "cdkeysdirect", are anything but pirated.

Not that that's problematic in and of itself - you have people here selling drugs for God's sake.  I suppose my only point is that it's reasonable for others to have concluded you're a spammer considering only your original post.

That and if someone is going to pay 70% for a title, why not just pay 100% and get the real thing with the box and all?  The CD and the knowledge it is legal and not a Trojan and the support of the game maker are all worth at least that 30%.  If I am going to acquire software that I can't prove is legit and exposes me to needless risks I expect it to be close to free.  Selling pirated software as genuine is no less a fraudulent offer than offering amazon credit for BTC and then delivering only a publicly known promo discount code in its place when paid and claiming they are the same because they both save you money.

My advice if it is pirated software is just lower the price, admit it's pirated and still sell it here.
I don't think that would be a problem. Like Diablo said, people are selling drugs here. Your pirated software is fine.
I'm not going to buy it but I'm sure someone else will. On the other hand if it's legit then stick to that but like he said don't expect people to jump on it if you can't reasonably prove it.
vip
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Fair enough, I do have the original invoice for the "bulk" buy for my keys, however I do not want to disclose that kind of information to my customer. In addition, some of the games I do have original box, however due to the shipping cost I've decide to do business with digital version - serial key only.

@Diablo : Check this out http://www.cdkeysdirect.com/

Both the arrangement and the website have all the hallmarks of selling pirated software.  I simply do not believe that your "bulk" bought keys, nor anything sold by "cdkeysdirect", are anything but pirated.

Not that that's problematic in and of itself - you have people here selling drugs for God's sake.  I suppose my only point is that it's reasonable for others to have concluded you're a spammer considering only your original post.

That and if someone is going to pay 70% for a title, why not just pay 100% and get the real thing with the box and all?  The CD and the knowledge it is legal and not a Trojan and the support of the game maker are all worth at least that 30%.  If I am going to acquire software that I can't prove is legit and exposes me to needless risks I expect it to be close to free.  Selling pirated software as genuine is no less a fraudulent offer than offering amazon credit for BTC and then delivering only a publicly known promo discount code in its place when paid and claiming they are the same because they both save you money.
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This is interesting!

For example, what's the bitcoin price of Crysis 2?

Retail price x 0.7 = your price !

Nice, too bad i bought it yesterday.  Undecided I added the site to my bookmakrs and i'll check it for new games.
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This is interesting!

For example, what's the bitcoin price of Crysis 2?

Retail price x 0.7 = your price !
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This is interesting!

For example, what's the bitcoin price of Crysis 2?
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