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I personally feel that the sacking of Julian Nagelsmann was not a wrong decision. Yes it came at a very difficult time but this was probably the only chance to get Thomas Tuchel as their new coach so they had to sack him back then and not after the season. I think that Nagelsmann was already to pleased with himself and going on this ski trip even though the team has just lost the lead in the Bundesliga was very weird to me.
Reading the statements of many Bayern officials after the sacking of Kahn that it apparentely was the case that Kahn was disliked by most of the FC Bayern employees on the Säbener Straße and that Kahn's advisors also were disliked heavily there.
Almost everyone was relieved when Kahn was sacked.

How can you say it wasn't a wrong decision, that in the end Bayern failed in the Champions League, knocked out by Freiburg at DFB Fokal and hoped that Dortmund slipped in its last match to remain Bundesliga champions. IMO, precisely what Bayern's management did was a blunder that shouldn't have happened. when Nagelsmann was Bayern coach, they were only one point behind Dormund after being knocked out by Leverkusen, correct me if I'm wrong.

on the other hand, Bayern were the only team that was unbeaten until they met against Manchester City.
a hasty decision, if Bayern wanted Tuchel to be their manager. whereas, Bayern could have pre-contracted with Tuchel for the 2023/2024 season and replaced Nagelsmann. ideally, club management will give Nagelsmann time and opportunity until the end of the 2022/2024 season. and as we have seen and witnessed, when Bayern changed coaches, they went through a transitional phase related to the system which caused the team's performance to be unstable. As a result, Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic were fired for everything that happened to Bayern last season.

Now, Tuchel must prove his performance and capacity as a top coach. Anyway, suppose Harry Kane joins Bayern next season. at least, Tuchel has overcome the crisis of the center forward that the team has needed so far. thus, it is certain that Bayern will become a more competitive team.

It was a big mistake to sack Julian Nagelsmann because everyone wondered what the difference between Nagelsmann and Tuchel is. Their approach is similar and they are also similar in their character and their ways to handle players, their problems and their weaknesses. Tuchel didn't do anything wrong. He was asked when he still had the chance to win three titles at once without even playing half a season. When Tuchel arrived, nothing changed. They played worse and yet they defended their decision to sack Nagelsmann But that is what they had to do. There was no way back for them and they couldn't apologize to the fans after that decision.
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That's Dortmund business so far, developing players and selling them at high prices. Yeah although Dortmund sold important players, they can still stay close with Bayern Munich in terms of points, but still they couldn't take advantage of the situation because before they should be have won the title. I hope that in the next new season Dortmund can also be consistent again although they already sold important players again in this summer transfer window. You are right that other clubs every season try to stop Bayern Munich hegemony, but they difficult to be consistent. Now other clubs are improve the depth of their squad, which one of them is Leipzig and it is hoped that with the addition of new talented players, they can can stop Bayern Munich hegemony.
Dortmund have good business for developing their players and selling them on higher price two or three years later, almost every season Dortmund sell their player with higher price and this season Jude Bellingham transfer fees reach above 100 million euro. I don't think with Dortmund priority winning Bundesliga tittle on every season depend they sold important players, new recruitment need time adapted and Dortmund can't consistent to defend important players for long time and always looking for beneficial profit earn from selling them. Business is priority than to be compete for Bayern Munich and how to make rival teams difficult winning domestic league and this style from Dortmund

But how many years Dortmund will priority with their business than getting many trophies? have been 12 years Dortmund not winning Bundesliga tittle and Bayern Munich always become the champion.
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I personally feel that the sacking of Julian Nagelsmann was not a wrong decision. Yes it came at a very difficult time but this was probably the only chance to get Thomas Tuchel as their new coach so they had to sack him back then and not after the season. I think that Nagelsmann was already to pleased with himself and going on this ski trip even though the team has just lost the lead in the Bundesliga was very weird to me.
Reading the statements of many Bayern officials after the sacking of Kahn that it apparentely was the case that Kahn was disliked by most of the FC Bayern employees on the Säbener Straße and that Kahn's advisors also were disliked heavily there.
Almost everyone was relieved when Kahn was sacked.

How can you say it wasn't a wrong decision, that in the end Bayern failed in the Champions League, knocked out by Freiburg at DFB Fokal and hoped that Dortmund slipped in its last match to remain Bundesliga champions. IMO, precisely what Bayern's management did was a blunder that shouldn't have happened. when Nagelsmann was Bayern coach, they were only one point behind Dormund after being knocked out by Leverkusen, correct me if I'm wrong.

on the other hand, Bayern were the only team that was unbeaten until they met against Manchester City.
a hasty decision, if Bayern wanted Tuchel to be their manager. whereas, Bayern could have pre-contracted with Tuchel for the 2023/2024 season and replaced Nagelsmann. ideally, club management will give Nagelsmann time and opportunity until the end of the 2022/2024 season. and as we have seen and witnessed, when Bayern changed coaches, they went through a transitional phase related to the system which caused the team's performance to be unstable. As a result, Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic were fired for everything that happened to Bayern last season.

Now, Tuchel must prove his performance and capacity as a top coach. Anyway, suppose Harry Kane joins Bayern next season. at least, Tuchel has overcome the crisis of the center forward that the team has needed so far. thus, it is certain that Bayern will become a more competitive team.
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Kane situation has been taking way too long, shouldn't have been this long of a discussion. You talk with Spurs, you deal with how much they want, you either negotiate to a point where you both agree, or you just don't come to an agreement that's it. After you agree with the team, IF you can of course, then you talk with Kane, offer him something, either he accepts or you negotiate, and if you come to an agreement you sign him, if not then you don't.

None of this should take this long, they are spending weeks and weeks, even maybe more than a month on the negotiation part and that never made sense to me. Meanwhile other teams are buying players left and right, I think it's high time either they come to an agreement or just decide not to do this.
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In essence, Dortmund will always be willing to sell all their key players to clubs that have money and are willing to pay. So, even though Dortmund sold their key players to Bayern Munich, basically it was like a tradition to be done by Dortmund for a long time. But the great thing about Dortmund is, even though Dortmund always sells their key players every season, but every season Dortmund also always manages to be Bayern Munich's competitor at the top. Also, in the second point you said about "no team wants to compete with Bayern Munich". I don't think that's right because after all, every team is always trying to stop Bayern Munich's hegemony but yes, because Bayern Munich has good consistency it is certainly difficult for other teams to be able to compete consistently with Bayern Munich.
That's Dortmund business so far, developing players and selling them at high prices. Yeah although Dortmund sold important players, they can still stay close with Bayern Munich in terms of points, but still they couldn't take advantage of the situation because before they should be have won the title. I hope that in the next new season Dortmund can also be consistent again although they already sold important players again in this summer transfer window. You are right that other clubs every season try to stop Bayern Munich hegemony, but they difficult to be consistent. Now other clubs are improve the depth of their squad, which one of them is Leipzig and it is hoped that with the addition of new talented players, they can can stop Bayern Munich hegemony.
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When we look at the transfers made in the German league, most of them are young players. This includes players coming and going, of course.Gladbach signed tomas cvancara from Sparta Prague for 10.5 million euros.As he is a young striker, he has the chance to develop himself in the German league and introduce himself to the world.
Leipzig, on the other hand, signed Lois Openda from Lens for 43 million euros.Openda is a young striker like cvancara and the Lens team has shown a very important performance this year and I think that the performance of the Lens team is also effective in his transfer with this transfer price.

There are many young talents born in football
Several teams in the Bundesliga are try their luck to conquer the Bundesliga through young players, apart from the price which is of course slightly cheaper than experience players, each team is also powerless to spend hundreds of millions of euros just to buy experienced players because the competition there is quite tough, especially for  the top standings.
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This is good news for bundesliga

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Apple has held talks with Bundesliga executives regarding rights to the top-flight German league, sources familiar with the matter have told World Soccer Talk. Apple’s interest in the German Bundesliga is part of an effort by the tech giant to expand its live sports offering. While talks between Apple and Bundesliga are preliminary, according to our sources, it does indicate that the German league officials are keeping their options open for the next rights bidding.
https://worldsoccertalk.com/tv/apple-in-talks-with-bundesliga-about-media-rights-sources-say-20230713-WST-442893.html

It will be very good if apple will try to make a contract with bundesliga to be included into the apple's live sporting. Apple is trying to take ESPN from broadcasting the match of bundesliga in US. ESPN is still having a contract with bundesliga till next years. I hope that there will be an update regarding this. Apple gonna help bundesliga's expansion in US.

RB leipzig tries to sign simon from PSV. He's gonna be a new attacking midfielder of leipzign next season.

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RB Leipzig have already made a number of big signings in recent weeks, bringing in the likes of Loïs Openda, Benjamin Šeško, Christoph Baumgartner, and Fabio Carvalho. And they are now looking to sign highly rated attacking midfielder Xavi Simons on a loan deal.
Multiple reports claim that a loan to RB Leipzig is the likeliest option for Simons, who will first secure a permanent move back to Paris Saint Germain before heading out on a loan deal. The French giants have triggered the €6 million buy-back clause in his PSV Eindhoven contract.
https://bvbbuzz.com/2023/07/16/bundesliga-leipzig-leading-race-xavi-simons-loan/

Leipzig is seriously building its club. The club was doing some transfers since the opening of summer transfer season. Im very glad caused by it will make germany league become even more competitive than before.
Leipzig has been competing with dortmund to get him but it's likely leipzig was winning the race to get him even though simon gonna join in leipzig as loan.
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Oh dear the last season was the worst example Dortmund could give as a team that plays as if they didn't want to win the Bundesliga title. Bayern did everything they could to make Borussia Dortmund become the new Bundesliga champions and yet they failed. I am afraid that his was the wake up call for Bayern at the right time and that we will seem them win the Bundesliga title for the next ten years as well. When a team wins the title several years in a row, it is a great achievement and deserves respect. But it comes to a point when it is more boring than it is impressive to see the same team win over and over again. The Bundesliga is at this point. The Bayern fans might like it of course, but I don't like following the Bundesliga as much when it is the same every year.
Big disappointment must have been felt by all Dortmund fans last season if we imagine that they really became champions but they wasted that opportunity. On the Bayern Munich side they have been the most consistent team as the strongest domination in keeping their throne as the title winning team for the season to come. Nothing will surprise us enough next season because we know Bayern Munich is the strongest team in the Bundesliga and they will be champions again next season.

Moreover, next season Dortmund will again be left by its best player, Bellingham. So they will be back in their strength balancing stage next season. For other teams they are still not too strong to be compared with Bayern Munich, so their hopes of undermining Bayern Munich's reign will be quite difficult to come true.

I am not so much concerned about Bellingham being gone now as Dortmund has had a great nose finding the right players for oPen positions. They didn't have Haaland last season and yet they were as close to winning the Bundesliga as they haven't been in quite a while. That wasn't the problem. But how likely is it that Bayern Munich will play a season as bad as the last one? That's what I don't see coming and if Bayern plays a normal season the chances for Dortmund are extremely slight and when there is a chance, we have now seen how recklessly Dortmund can waste them.
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Last season, Bayern Munich did not experience a crisis, but it was Bayern Munich's management that made them almost fail to win the Bundesliga title and fail in the Champions League due to the dismissal of the coach in the middle of the season. Behind Bayern Munich's domination in the Bundesliga, Dortmund has had the chance to win the Bundesliga League several times. But the mentality of Dortmund players is not that strong. It often slips when it is in the first place, and this also happened again last season.

But I see that Bayern Munich is no longer the same as the old Bayern Munich. The management is very arrogant and ambitious. if you don't get maximum results, the coaches who handle Bayern Munich are like robots controlled by management. If Thomas Tuchel is not careful in fixing the team, and maximizing the potential of the players, he could have the same fate and lead to dismissal.

Well, that Nagelsmann drop out from Bayern Munich is something many didn't expect to happen but it is likely going to happen in the future, but for so long Julian Nagelsmann was the only face of Bayern Munich with Robert Lewandowski to make them champion something but that all changed when Lewa leaves Nagelsmann now is a changed man for sure that he simply have some trouble getting Sadio Mane what he is capable in doing,


Bayern Munich is one of the traditional football clubs not just in Germany but also in the Europe and is expected to always be at the top of their game and defeat any team that tries to stop them from reaching their goals.
So when managing a club like Bayern Munich, it is expected by the manager to put out his best and win trophies for the club. Last season their immediate former manager was sacked despite not losing up to 4 games in the entire half and quarter part of the season. That's to show anyone who wants to risk managing them of the future expectations at the club

There are so many expectations that are broken in this season and I think we surely need to move on from it, many are saying that it is really Nagelsmann's fault but Bayern Munich has elaborately planned this sacking Nagelsmann out of Bayern Munich because Tuchel is not available in the Summer for that season, so they already have a plan in changing their Coach despite Bayern Munich got a straight win over Nagelsmann,

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First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.

There is another interesting situation. Borussia Dortmund sold many of their important players directly to Bayern Munich in the past. This was a huge strategic mistake. With this strategic mistake, Borussia Dortmund lost the possibility of approaching the level of Bayern Munich. Of course, not everything is finished. If Borussia Dortmund had managed to be a little more careful last season, they could have destroyed Bayern Munich's hegemony. Frankly, I think Bayern Munich will dominate the league next season as well. But football is a game of surprises and maybe we can watch a surprise.

In essence, Dortmund will always be willing to sell all their key players to clubs that have money and are willing to pay. So, even though Dortmund sold their key players to Bayern Munich, basically it was like a tradition to be done by Dortmund for a long time. But the great thing about Dortmund is, even though Dortmund always sells their key players every season, but every season Dortmund also always manages to be Bayern Munich's competitor at the top. Also, in the second point you said about "no team wants to compete with Bayern Munich". I don't think that's right because after all, every team is always trying to stop Bayern Munich's hegemony but yes, because Bayern Munich has good consistency it is certainly difficult for other teams to be able to compete consistently with Bayern Munich.
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First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.

There is another interesting situation. Borussia Dortmund sold many of their important players directly to Bayern Munich in the past. This was a huge strategic mistake. With this strategic mistake, Borussia Dortmund lost the possibility of approaching the level of Bayern Munich. Of course, not everything is finished. If Borussia Dortmund had managed to be a little more careful last season, they could have destroyed Bayern Munich's hegemony. Frankly, I think Bayern Munich will dominate the league next season as well. But football is a game of surprises and maybe we can watch a surprise.
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Oliver Kahn's working as the chairman lasted only 2 years for Bayern Munich before his getting sacked. Jan-Christian Dreesen is the new chairman of the team now. I wonder how big change this will bring about as well. Because Bayern Munich are known by their being a very disciplined team. They need to keep this vision by making the right decisions for their future. For example the sacking of Nagelsmann was really untimely as they were in a critical time period of the season. Not much time after that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic getting sacked.

In every field they need to act smart to keep being the most dominant team of the Bundesliga. This is possible with only the right management.
maybe there is a problem in Internal Munich which is deliberately not made public. one that surprised many football observers was the moment of Nagelsmann's dismissal. and many people commented that the moment was not right and what really happened to Munich. we might see a decline in Munich's game performance, but there was still a lot of controversy going on at that time.
for competition in the Bundesliga, I think Munich will still be the focus for that. but to compete against European teams, they could have difficulties if they don't organize their team properly to play consistently.
It was an incident that shocked many people and no one expected it to just happen. Nagelsmann was sacked. For Bayern Munich it was as planned and I think as a big team they underestimated the role of a coach who brought Bayern Munich consistently in two different competitions.

However, in the end it was this that knocked Bayern Munich out of the Champions League and that added to the minor results achieved by the Die Roten squad. On the other hand, Bayern Munich experienced a decline in performance towards the end of the Bundesliga season and almost lost something valuable each season. I think that Bayern Munich must re-arrange its consistency under Tuchel next season.
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Oliver Kahn's working as the chairman lasted only 2 years for Bayern Munich before his getting sacked. Jan-Christian Dreesen is the new chairman of the team now. I wonder how big change this will bring about as well. Because Bayern Munich are known by their being a very disciplined team. They need to keep this vision by making the right decisions for their future. For example the sacking of Nagelsmann was really untimely as they were in a critical time period of the season. Not much time after that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic getting sacked.
Glad to see that kahn sacked and being replaced with a new chariman. I hope new chairman will able to perform some good decisions for the future of club. Kahn has been doing some blunder when he was becomg chairman of bayern. I agree with the controversial decision to switch to Tuchel while Naglesmann was performing well. Bayern fans must be feeling so happy caused the club has been choosing the new chairman. I think that Dreesen can become a better chairman compared to kahn. At least the stupid decision to sack a good coach will not happen again.
That's enough to make bayern to be in the right way.


The sacking of Oliver Khan from as the chairman of Bayern Munich will surely have effects on the club's performance going forward. Khan has been very intentional about Bayern Munich over the years and have been traveling with the team in most cases when they have European away games just that some of his decisions hasn't really favoured the club hence his sacking.
The new chairman will definitely bring his own style of management to the club which might not be that easy for the manager and staff of the club but whichever way it is, I think everyone at the club will definitely come together and work in harmony for the betterment of the club
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Oliver Kahn's working as the chairman lasted only 2 years for Bayern Munich before his getting sacked. Jan-Christian Dreesen is the new chairman of the team now. I wonder how big change this will bring about as well. Because Bayern Munich are known by their being a very disciplined team. They need to keep this vision by making the right decisions for their future. For example the sacking of Nagelsmann was really untimely as they were in a critical time period of the season. Not much time after that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic getting sacked.
Glad to see that kahn sacked and being replaced with a new chariman. I hope new chairman will able to perform some good decisions for the future of club. Kahn has been doing some blunder when he was becomg chairman of bayern. I agree with the controversial decision to switch to Tuchel while Naglesmann was performing well. Bayern fans must be feeling so happy caused the club has been choosing the new chairman. I think that Dreesen can become a better chairman compared to kahn. At least the stupid decision to sack a good coach will not happen again.
That's enough to make bayern to be in the right way.

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First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.
Borrusia Dortmund keep trying each year to match up energy with Bayern but it seems impossible. The previous season, they were very close but got unlucky at the end. In the coming decades, the Bavarians will win over their opponents. Bayern Munich will continue to dominate the Bundesliga because they have what other teams are missing: players and a meticulously designed resources. The Bavarians have dominated the league on every occasion. Even though they started the season unfavorably they seem to be finding their way; it was a sophisticated performance from both the players and the coach.
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First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.
in the long run 3 - 4 seasons maybe Bayern Munich will dominate the bundesliga but after that there are no guarantees. I know that for now no one can compete and shift Bayern Munich's position because every transfer window opens, Bayern Munich always gets the best players who have reliable talent. on the one hand, Bayern Munich's finances support getting reliable players every season.
maybe in the last season Dortmund was able to shift Munich's position but I will never forget that Dortmund was one of the teams that prioritized recruiting young players and developing their talents to become stronger and sell them. so there is no hope whatsoever for Dortmund.
All possibilities are still there, as long as they have the desire to be a competitor of Bayern Munich. at this time they also definitely want to be a competitor of Bayern Munich, but what I mean is that they must have a serious desire to make it all happen. want alone is not enough to be able to shift the dominance held by Bayern Munich at this time, they need to take real action with improvements for example or something like that.
Borussia Dortmund for example, if they don't sell many of their quality players then I'm sure they will be able to be at the same level, or even better than Bayern Munich.
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In the local TV broadcast in my country there has been no news about the broadcast of the Bundesliga. But I heard the Bundesliga has a contract with ESPN until 2025/2026. This contract is worth $30 million per year. ESPN only has a streaming service in the United States. This gives Apple the opportunity to get broadcasting rights in other countries. Reportedly Apple is in talks with Bundesliga directors. It's likely that Apple could be the next option if ESPN doesn't provide a new, more lucrative contract option.

Source: https://worldsoccertalk.com/tv/apple-in-talks-with-bundesliga-about-media-rights-sources-say-20230713-WST-442893.html
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First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.
in the long run 3 - 4 seasons maybe Bayern Munich will dominate the bundesliga but after that there are no guarantees. I know that for now no one can compete and shift Bayern Munich's position because every transfer window opens, Bayern Munich always gets the best players who have reliable talent. on the one hand, Bayern Munich's finances support getting reliable players every season.
maybe in the last season Dortmund was able to shift Munich's position but I will never forget that Dortmund was one of the teams that prioritized recruiting young players and developing their talents to become stronger and sell them. so there is no hope whatsoever for Dortmund.
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Oliver Kahn's working as the chairman lasted only 2 years for Bayern Munich before his getting sacked. Jan-Christian Dreesen is the new chairman of the team now. I wonder how big change this will bring about as well. Because Bayern Munich are known by their being a very disciplined team. They need to keep this vision by making the right decisions for their future. For example the sacking of Nagelsmann was really untimely as they were in a critical time period of the season. Not much time after that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic getting sacked.

In every field they need to act smart to keep being the most dominant team of the Bundesliga. This is possible with only the right management.

I personally feel that the sacking of Julian Nagelsmann was not a wrong decision. Yes it came at a very difficult time but this was probably the only chance to get Thomas Tuchel as their new coach so they had to sack him back then and not after the season. I think that Nagelsmann was already to pleased with himself and going on this ski trip even though the team has just lost the lead in the Bundesliga was very weird to me.
Reading the statements of many Bayern officials after the sacking of Kahn that it apparentely was the case that Kahn was disliked by most of the FC Bayern employees on the Säbener Straße and that Kahn's advisors also were disliked heavily there.
Almost everyone was relieved when Kahn was sacked.
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Oliver Kahn's working as the chairman lasted only 2 years for Bayern Munich before his getting sacked. Jan-Christian Dreesen is the new chairman of the team now. I wonder how big change this will bring about as well. Because Bayern Munich are known by their being a very disciplined team. They need to keep this vision by making the right decisions for their future. For example the sacking of Nagelsmann was really untimely as they were in a critical time period of the season. Not much time after that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic getting sacked.

In every field they need to act smart to keep being the most dominant team of the Bundesliga. This is possible with only the right management.
maybe there is a problem in Internal Munich which is deliberately not made public. one that surprised many football observers was the moment of Nagelsmann's dismissal. and many people commented that the moment was not right and what really happened to Munich. we might see a decline in Munich's game performance, but there was still a lot of controversy going on at that time.
for competition in the Bundesliga, I think Munich will still be the focus for that. but to compete against European teams, they could have difficulties if they don't organize their team properly to play consistently.
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