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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 26, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

You don't have to worry about Dortmund and also, you don't have to doubt Dortmund's quality and ability. Because after all, every season Dortmund always produces great players and then sells them but yes, the reality is that Dortmund still have the ability to compete in the top four. Therefore, it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their key players because in fact, Dortmund also always manages to produce new ones to become key players in the team, whether it's from recruiting or just maximizing the potential of every player in the squad.

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In the last few weeks it looked like a possible transfer of Harry Kane to Bayern Munich was already impossible because there were so many news that claimed that Harry Kane wants to stay in the premier league in order to be able to beat Alan shearers goal record there. Yesterday though a german newspaper reported that this is not true and that Bayern is still in contact with Kane. If this is true then a transfer would not be impossible. It all depends on him and where he wants to play.

It is even unlikely that Bayern Munich will be able to get Harry Kane because recently I received news that Spurs have rejected the proposal made by Munich for a fee of 70 million euros. I don't really know if Harry Kane really wants to stay or if management forced him to stay. But with his long journey with Spurs but not being able to win any titles, I think all players would prefer to leave and join another club that has great potential to win some trophies. Kane has one more season left with Spurs, if management doesn't sell him immediately then it is undeniable that he can leave as a free agent when his contract expires and this is a big loss for spurs. I'm not so sure that Spurs can convince him to sign a new contract.

Well, we'll see how the next development. I think, even though the first profosal has been rejected. it looks like Bayern will make a second offer to convince Spurs to let go of their Striker. IMO, it looks like Bayern are really moving seriously in signing Harry Kane ka Bavaria. because, they have made an effort by submitting an official bid to Tottenham with a tag of € 70 million.
I believe Bayern had previously calculated that their first offer would be rejected. that's why, like I said. it is very likely that Bayern Munich will make a re-bid. and it looks like Bayern are serious about signing Kane. because, they are very aware that the Bayern squad needs a mature striker to face the competition next season

should be, if Kane is willing to leave in this transfer window. he also had to ask the club to let him go. with Bayern, Kane has the potential to win a trophy. at least, he has the potential to win the Bundesiliga trophy next season with Bayern. plus, competing in the Champions League. so, ideally Bayern should approach the star. and Kane could put pressure on Spurs' side if he doesn't let him go.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure there will be a sequel with Harry Kane and Bayern Munich. so, we just enjoy each process for the sake of the process.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on June 27, 2023, 10:28:25 AM

I agree, that is definitely not sure yet if Bayern Munich will be really able to sign Harry Kane. The fact that Tottenham Hotspur basically immediately rejected the offer of Bayern Munich does mean nothing though. Bayern has offered them 70 Million € which is just not enough for Tottenham. Reports say that they want 100 M pounds for him. That was just the first offer of Bayern though and in the end the fee will be somewhere between 80 and 100 million i would guess.

this transfer will surely work out . and there will surely be good bonus payments . kane's contract ends in summer 2024 and now totenham
can get some real money for kane. next year kane can leave the club free of charge .
and totenham will not give up these 80-100 million euros. tomorrow or the day after tomorrow both clubs will present this agreement .
i am 99.9% sure about that.

For some reason when talking about Kane I'm actually quite unsure.
Tottenham still won't budge, it seems even though for 80 million because their target is 100 to 120 million for the Kane clause and indeed for 70 million now there are already Bayern and Madrid who offer the same price but they won't be looked at.
At the moment, it also depends on Kane's attitude because as long as he doesn't make any comments, there isn't even a response when many are interested, it will also be useless even if Bayern's offer is increased.
Kane should take a good stance in this regard but he is still undeniably loyal to Tottenham who have made him run in places with nothing to gain in his professional career.

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Quote from: tiCeR on June 25, 2023, 04:04:54 PM

Ha if it was that easy they would do it, but what you mention here is something that they have been quarreling with for quite a while now. They are still hoping for some younger talents from their own youth to finally tackle the challenge and make it into the first team of Bayern Munich. That would save them a lot of money and there wouldn't be the urgency all the time to do something about their offensive problems. But there is no Thomas Muller right now in their youth teams. Muller was the discovery of the year back then when Louis van Gaal gave him a chance. But the business has become too fast and you can't be patiently waiting for a talent to emerge from your own youth teams, you have to solve them problem immediately with cash. The chances for young talents from the own youth teams are also vanishing as they don't have time to prove they could be worth a try.

Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case.
As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem.

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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

Talking about that, of course we will ask questions, even before what they have done this season we will ask questions because they lose valuable players every season. But as we know they can always create new potential young players who will fill in the gaps when players who contribute leave, and I think now will do just that. They are very smart in eyeing potential young players, but they are not smart enough in exploiting them, they are only smart in making a profit from selling these players.

Dortmund's cycle has been predictable since a few seasons ago, which managed to sell their talented players to Europe's top teams with very fantastic transfer fees and it's no wonder they do this almost every season. But this is also not something that should be done continuously and for a team to win a title is one of the dreams that they have to realize apart from the business of selling these talented players. I think Dortmund is still not on par with Bayern Munich and they will still have the same match with the same result if they continue to maintain such a business pattern.

I've talked long ago about this problem because their focus is different.
They know that a club will be looked up to more if they manage to at least win in the domestic competition, Dortmund also wants to be like that, it's just that right now it's creating different conditions and competing for the title with Bayern is a little difficult. Those who were even able to do that last season will eventually have to accept failure which will take a bit of a toll on their mentality and self-confidence.
So there's nothing you can do about something like this. Changing players to make them able to compete with Bayern in domestic competition will require big money and they don't want to experience financial problems in the end so they try to farm in another way when Bayern do farming with titles then Dortmund do farming with good players and can profitable for them.
Broadly speaking, for connoisseurs of the ball, this will be a little annoying, but on the other hand, for Dortmund, who don't only talk about the ball, but also for business, as long as they profit from it, they will definitely do it.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on June 27, 2023, 10:28:25 AM

I agree, that is definitely not sure yet if Bayern Munich will be really able to sign Harry Kane. The fact that Tottenham Hotspur basically immediately rejected the offer of Bayern Munich does mean nothing though. Bayern has offered them 70 Million € which is just not enough for Tottenham. Reports say that they want 100 M pounds for him. That was just the first offer of Bayern though and in the end the fee will be somewhere between 80 and 100 million i would guess.

this transfer will surely work out . and there will surely be good bonus payments . kane's contract ends in summer 2024 and now totenham
can get some real money for kane. next year kane can leave the club free of charge .
and totenham will not give up these 80-100 million euros. tomorrow or the day after tomorrow both clubs will present this agreement .
i am 99.9% sure about that.

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We know that most of the attackers in the current Bayern Munich squad are holdovers from their previous coach, Nagelsmann. And if they don't sign a striker for the coming season, it's likely that Thomas Tuchel will be content with the attacking players he has now.
In fact, the names they currently have are top names, it's just that in their last season they were not so optimal that it made Bayern Munich a little difficult when they had to convert opportunities into goals. It also seems that now Tuchel has had enough time to be able to implement what he expects in the game, because if you look at the previous game that was not optimal, maybe it was the influence of the strategy imbalance that happened so quickly.

I don’t know if not bringing any new strikers is going to be a good idea for them. I am honestly pretty skeptical about it. Because without a good striker, they will not be able to score as many goals. I am not sure if this is statistically correct, but I think after Robert Lewandowski left the team, they have not been able to score as well as they did previously.

So I think even if getting a striker is not a top priority for the coach, Thomas Tuchel right now, I think it should be a priority at least. Otherwise, Dortmund might actually give them a hard time next season.

Bayern Munich strategic strategy to fortifying their team is seen in their shift in transfer priority towards bolstering their defence and midfield. They are concentrating on adding a center back defensive midfielder and right back in order to improve the depth and balance of their entire squad. They intend to bring in excellent players with a strong defensive presence as seen by the probable additions of Kalvin Phillips and Ibrahim Sangare for the midfield positions. Furthermore keeping an eye on Kim Min jas release clause hints at Bayern desire to sign a talented center back. Kyle Walker possible right back option status despite his advanced age shows Bayern respect for his expertise and dependability. Bayern Munich dedication to keeping a balanced team and remaining competitive in their pursuit of success is demonstrated by this focused strategy.

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Quote from: snipie on June 26, 2023, 06:39:54 PM

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Hanry Kane would definitely strengthen Bayern Munich. After their last season they have to build a new team and need important players like Kane. Should a transfer took place, it should only be Bayern Munich. At least that is what his management says. But this statement may just be a ploy to get other clubs to come forward quickly and to push his price.

Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers.
Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news

Basically, it looks like Tottenham will also set a high price for Kane and thus, it will certainly be difficult for other teams to get Kane. Because at the same time Tottenham still really need it and so it's not surprising, if Tottenham also has a way to defend it. But even so, I personally really want Kane to leave Tottenham and play for another club and not just focus on Bayern Munich. Because the bottom line is, Kane has to have a good chance to win the title but if he's not ambitious, then Kane can stay at Tottenham and can't have a chance to achieve anything in his career.

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Quote from: Sterbens on June 27, 2023, 09:17:03 AM

It is even unlikely that Bayern Munich will be able to get Harry Kane because recently I received news that Spurs have rejected the proposal made by Munich for a fee of 70 million euros. I don't really know if Harry Kane really wants to stay or if management forced him to stay. But with his long journey with Spurs but not being able to win any titles, I think all players would prefer to leave and join another club that has great potential to win some trophies. Kane has one more season left with Spurs, if management doesn't sell him immediately then it is undeniable that he can leave as a free agent when his contract expires and this is a big loss for spurs. I'm not so sure that Spurs can convince him to sign a new contract.

I agree, that is definitely not sure yet if Bayern Munich will be really able to sign Harry Kane. The fact that Tottenham Hotspur basically immediately rejected the offer of Bayern Munich does mean nothing though. Bayern has offered them 70 Million € which is just not enough for Tottenham. Reports say that they want 100 M pounds for him. That was just the first offer of Bayern though and in the end the fee will be somewhere between 80 and 100 million i would guess.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 26, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

Dortmund always produces great players and every player they choose to fill the squad will usually be a lot of big clubs eyeing, not only Jude, but as usual Dortmund will always be a competitor for Munich because their failure last season was only the difference in the number of goals that should have been they won easily but failed to be held to a draw by Mainz 05, thus making it Munich who won the league last season.

I think Dortmund will recruit young players to fill out their squad and allow them to develop into great players in the next season, that's why Dortmund always produces great players who are watched by many big clubs and are expensive players. they have enough money to buy a star player only they choose their own way.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 26, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

Talking about that, of course we will ask questions, even before what they have done this season we will ask questions because they lose valuable players every season. But as we know they can always create new potential young players who will fill in the gaps when players who contribute leave, and I think now will do just that. They are very smart in eyeing potential young players, but they are not smart enough in exploiting them, they are only smart in making a profit from selling these players.

Dortmund's cycle has been predictable since a few seasons ago, which managed to sell their talented players to Europe's top teams with very fantastic transfer fees and it's no wonder they do this almost every season. But this is also not something that should be done continuously and for a team to win a title is one of the dreams that they have to realize apart from the business of selling these talented players. I think Dortmund is still not on par with Bayern Munich and they will still have the same match with the same result if they continue to maintain such a business pattern.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on June 27, 2023, 06:27:38 AM

In the last few weeks it looked like a possible transfer of Harry Kane to Bayern Munich was already impossible because there were so many news that claimed that Harry Kane wants to stay in the premier league in order to be able to beat Alan shearers goal record there. Yesterday though a german newspaper reported that this is not true and that Bayern is still in contact with Kane. If this is true then a transfer would not be impossible. It all depends on him and where he wants to play.

It is even unlikely that Bayern Munich will be able to get Harry Kane because recently I received news that Spurs have rejected the proposal made by Munich for a fee of 70 million euros. I don't really know if Harry Kane really wants to stay or if management forced him to stay. But with his long journey with Spurs but not being able to win any titles, I think all players would prefer to leave and join another club that has great potential to win some trophies. Kane has one more season left with Spurs, if management doesn't sell him immediately then it is undeniable that he can leave as a free agent when his contract expires and this is a big loss for spurs. I'm not so sure that Spurs can convince him to sign a new contract.

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Quote from: snipie on June 26, 2023, 06:39:54 PM

Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers.
Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news

That is right, anyone who has played so long in england at his favorite club usually doesnt want to go anywhere else. But Harry Kane is 29 years old and at some point someone will be looking for a new challenge, and maybe now is the time. Bayern Munich hase made a offer of 70 million euros for a transfer. Since 2013 H.Kane plays for Tottenham Hotspur and he has never won a title... it could be something he misses. He played almost 90 games for the nationalteam in England, but he hasnt won a title there also. In Germany, with Bayern Munich, it will be different.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 26, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

Talking about that, of course we will ask questions, even before what they have done this season we will ask questions because they lose valuable players every season. But as we know they can always create new potential young players who will fill in the gaps when players who contribute leave, and I think now will do just that. They are very smart in eyeing potential young players, but they are not smart enough in exploiting them, they are only smart in making a profit from selling these players.

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Quote from: snipie on June 26, 2023, 06:39:54 PM

Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers.
Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news

In the last few weeks it looked like a possible transfer of Harry Kane to Bayern Munich was already impossible because there were so many news that claimed that Harry Kane wants to stay in the premier league in order to be able to beat Alan shearers goal record there. Yesterday though a german newspaper reported that this is not true and that Bayern is still in contact with Kane. If this is true then a transfer would not be impossible. It all depends on him and where he wants to play.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 26, 2023, 06:50:31 PM

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

Seasons ago, when they sold Jadon Sancho to Manchester United, they planed for future to replace him by Jude Bellingham. That plan works very fine so far and they got great profit from Jude transfers too.

This time looks to be different as Dortmund have yet bought any promising gifted youth player as replacement for Jude. It always takes time to grow up youth player so they will waste one summer and perhaps one season. With style of Dortmund, they will not be hurry to buy players to replace Jude and they will have to wait for reports from their scout teams.

Without Sancho, Haaland then Jude, Dortmund will have to satisfy with a runner up position and they might have to be pulled to top four race with other clubs. They are no longer too strong than other clubs in top four race or more exactly, race for three positions in top four except a first position which likely belongs to Bayern Munich.

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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 26, 2023, 03:49:00 PM

Hanry Kane would definitely strengthen Bayern Munich. After their last season they have to build a new team and need important players like Kane. Should a transfer took place, it should only be Bayern Munich. At least that is what his management says. But this statement may just be a ploy to get other clubs to come forward quickly and to push his price.

Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers.
Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news

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Quote from: Docnaster on June 26, 2023, 04:45:15 PM

With the current squad at Bayern Munich, Harry Kane will definitely be banging goals for fun for them come next season if by any means Bayern secures his signature. Tottenham Hotspur management knows that Harry Kane is one of the major reason why Tottenham are still recognized as a big English club and would not want let him leave their club. But a player of Kane's Calibre is supposed to be winning trophies at this time of his career and if he truly wants to win trophies before retiring from Football, then he should leave Tottenham this summer

Harry Kane had to leave Tottenham a few years ago because even then it became clear that he could hardly count on titles with the current owner of the club. Especially now, when the other leading clubs are thoroughly strengthened before the next season by raising prices and rates and Tottenham will clearly not be able to match competitors in spending. However, there may be mutual interest that the club sells its leader for a good sum and strengthen with this money, and Kane finally starts winning titles at another club. How not to remember how a few years ago Kane was obliged to move to Manchester City, which this season has issued a treble. And just Kane is quite able to replace Lewandowski in Bayern Munich as a goalscorer, a role that Sadio Mane cannot cope with. So I think it would be a mutually beneficial alliance for both Bayern Munich and Kane himself.

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I really wonder what Bayern Munich are up to by signing this many right backs. Because there are literally five right backs whose natural position is this in the squad. Cancelo is returning to Manchester City though but this time Kyle Walker is likely to come into his place. It is actually up to Walker's final decision to stay or leave right now.

Actually it would be better for Bayern Munich to sign a left back immediately. Because Blind is about to be free agent so there will only be Alphonso Davies there. Even Davies might leave in case of having a solid offer from a top team. I think this position is more urgent as a result.

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