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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 10, 2022, 01:34:51 PM

Leipzig have got what they wanted now. I still remember Timo Werner's marvelous season in the Bundesliga like 28 goals and 8 assists in 34 games.

That's a very impressive performance from him unlike when he was playing for chelsea and he rarely made scored for chelsea. that's why he was rarely playing in the starting line up from chelsea. If moving back to the leipzig can recover his mentality and i will be supporting it.
leipzig can at least become even better with him.

Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 10, 2022, 01:34:51 PM

He played for Chelsea for two seasons only. Now I hope to see the same ambition from Werner here. Leipzig might be able to leave Dortmund behind in this season actually. If they get efficiency from Werner a lot then they might get ahead of all of the teams except Bayern Munich in the standings. This is just a guess for now and I'd be confident of something more later on.

If leipzig can become very competitive with dortmund or even bayern and that would be enough. There's no need to put a high expectation.

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Timo Werner's performance at Chelsea has not been good. Basically, he could not play well in the Premier League. But the context of the Bundestag is different. If Timo Werner is able to adapt well to Leipzig, Leipzig's attack will be stronger. But I'm not sure if Timo Werner will fit in well with Leipzig's players.

Well, let's see him next versus Koln, is he ready?
he has a good reason to back to Leipzig, he wants to play on Qatar and needs frequently play where he can't get it on Chelsea. So far he has never played full and always as a substitution so that performance is not good. it could be a change If he has frequently in Leipzig.

I'm looking forward to his debut after a few seasons when he left the Bundesliga. and it is very likely that he will play even though he does start from the bench first.
When indeed his target is the world cup then indeed he must now forget his bad game at Chelsea and have to start over from scratch here so that his chances are open in the squad because indeed if we look at Germany now still relying on Havertz and obviously the chance to be a pure striker and the targetman is still open as long as he returns to doing a good performance as he showed at Leipzig a few seasons ago.

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Quote from: kamvreto on August 10, 2022, 11:25:25 AM

Freiburg as the host certainly will not be easy to beat by Dortmund. The match will be an exciting match that both want to win this match. In the previous match Freiburg managed to beat Augsburg with a 4-0 win which built on an impressive start.

They will still be one of the underdogs which is quite a hassle for the big teams in the top 4 positions, although indeed at the end of the season they are increasingly not showing good consistency but in the mirror from the beginning of last season it is clear that Freiburg really cannot be underestimated. In fact, I still feel the chance for a draw in this match is greater than the victory of one of the competing clubs.

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Quote from: BALIK on August 10, 2022, 01:27:32 PM

Chelsea didn't have a chance to make much money by selling Lukaku and Warner. What is Warner's contribution to Chelsea's performance? He scored only 4 goals in the Premier League last season. Why would any team buy Timo Werner at a high price despite his poor performance as Chelsea's main striker? Werner was not successful with the Chelsea team. Chelsea did not get the expected performance from him. No club is interested in buying players at high prices if the players are not in the form.

Chelsea not received money from selling Lukaku because that player loan for Inter Milan, but still have money with Tomo Warner sold to Leipzig but with cheapest transfer values. I think Leipzig most lucky team success get back Warner service and I am believing he has potential become top scorer on Bundesliga next season, we are waiting with Warner debut on Bundesliga when Leipzig against with FC Koln. Tomo Warner still have good talented as central forward and become most disappointed why Chelsea have to sell him with most lower values, I think on Chelsea he don't get his real position as central forward, usually Tuchel give him position on left or right side without put him as main forward.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on August 10, 2022, 03:03:56 PM

Timo Werner's performance at Chelsea has not been good. Basically, he could not play well in the Premier League. But the context of the Bundestag is different. If Timo Werner is able to adapt well to Leipzig, Leipzig's attack will be stronger. But I'm not sure if Timo Werner will fit in well with Leipzig's players.

Well, let's see him next versus Koln, is he ready?
he has a good reason to back to Leipzig, he wants to play on Qatar and needs frequently play where he can't get it on Chelsea. So far he has never played full and always as a substitution so that performance is not good. it could be a change If he has frequently in Leipzig.

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Frankfurt really couldn't do much against Real Madrid in the Super Cup game. However they at least didn't lose the game like they did to Bayern Munich. Cheesy

It only ended up with a 2-0 score. The result was obviously expected as Frankfurt can't keep up with a team like Real Madrid. They will really need to improve their morale in the Bundesliga at the earliest opportunity. Maybe the Hertha Berlin game is a good opportunity to do this.

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If a team's goal is to win the title, they should not be dependent on any particular player. They should definitely keep the replacement. It is impossible to guarantee that a player will play well for an entire season or suffer injury. The Dortmund team is not stable enough this season either. They may qualify for the Champions League, but will be far behind Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga.

But it is still happening, I think all of them are hoping to win the championship, Bayern Munich is just on the top of the food chain well mainly because they have already established their reign and the finances are hauling so much every year because they always won the champion, and we can not blame players if they have a super player in their team and they end up relying on him, but eventually, when Lewandowski is now not in the team anymore, other players have become very active in their game and playing ten fold, but we can not say it is because of Lewandowski leaving, maybe now the management is more strict because they knew it will be not an easy season for them,

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In fact, the previous season Leipzig experienced a decline in performance by being in 4th position, even though in the 2020/2021 season
Leipzig managed to be in 2nd position. But if we talk about this season in which Leipzig managed to bring back Timo Werner, I have the same
opinion as you, are very optimistic that Leipzig can regain second place in the Bundesliga. Because it is too difficult for any team in the Bundesliga
to beat Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga. Likewise with Leipzig, their realistic target is to reach second place in the Bundesliga,
and the current Leipzig squad I'm sure they can achieve. Moreover, Dortmund as Leipzig's strongest competitor is not in good condition,
Dortmund has been abandoned by Haaland and his successor Sebastien Haller has suffered a serious injury. So this is a good opportunity
for Leipzig to reach second place in the Bundesliga.

Well, Leipzig will surely gain that momentum over time, they are having a hard time coping up at the start of the season, I really don't know why, but this is really happening to them even in the last season their momentum shifted, and regain a good standing further throughout the season, and every game Leipzig will eventually win that game, I think they have 18 new arrivals for the team and still coping up with how they play in the Bundesliga, this will really need time to get used to their new teams, and gaining chemistry along the way,

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Quote from: rby on August 10, 2022, 05:58:52 PM

While we discuss the Bundesliga and how it will be this season. It is important that we know that Frankfurt has gone on an unsuccessful super cup challenge this night with Real Madrid, and the better side (which is) real Madrid ruled the day. Real Madrid became champions of super cup by netting once in both halves. Alaba got the first goal while Real Madrid talisman (Benzema) sealed the winning. The result didn't surprise me as I anticipated the result. It was dawn on me that Madrid will win convincingly, after Frankfurt lost woefully to Bayern in their opening outing of the season.

Real Madrid was better and the two goals were good. Vinicius Junior made assists and was close to open the score in the first half.
I believe Frankfurt didn't recover psychologically from the Bayern humiliation. The timing of the game was unfortunate for them tho.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 10, 2022, 01:34:51 PM

Leipzig have got what they wanted now. I still remember Timo Werner's marvelous season in the Bundesliga like 28 goals and 8 assists in 34 games. He played for Chelsea for two seasons only. Now I hope to see the same ambition from Werner here. Leipzig might be able to leave Dortmund behind in this season actually. If they get efficiency from Werner a lot then they might get ahead of all of the teams except Bayern Munich in the standings. This is just a guess for now and I'd be confident of something more later on.

The performance of RB Leipzig in the last season was quite commendable. And with Timo Werner in the team that performance is only going to get better in my opinion. They will be playing in the Champions League and I am quite sure that it is going to be something for Timo Werner to look forward to. Even though if he had stayed at Manchester City he would have had a greater chance of winning the Champions League.

But at RB Leipzig he will have a chance of performing better and standing out. And I believe with his help RB Leipzig will be able to push for the top two positions in the Bundesliga this season. Bayern Munich is going to be unbeatable by other teams in the Bundesliga as well as by RB Leipzig. So it is quite pointless to hope for the first position. However, I believe that the second position is within their grasp.

In fact, the previous season Leipzig experienced a decline in performance by being in 4th position, even though in the 2020/2021 season
Leipzig managed to be in 2nd position. But if we talk about this season in which Leipzig managed to bring back Timo Werner, I have the same
opinion as you, are very optimistic that Leipzig can regain second place in the Bundesliga. Because it is too difficult for any team in the Bundesliga
to beat Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga. Likewise with Leipzig, their realistic target is to reach second place in the Bundesliga,
and the current Leipzig squad I'm sure they can achieve. Moreover, Dortmund as Leipzig's strongest competitor is not in good condition,
Dortmund has been abandoned by Haaland and his successor Sebastien Haller has suffered a serious injury. So this is a good opportunity
for Leipzig to reach second place in the Bundesliga.

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While we discuss the Bundesliga and how it will be this season. It is important that we know that Frankfurt has gone on an unsuccessful super cup challenge this night with Real Madrid, and the better side (which is) real Madrid ruled the day. Real Madrid became champions of super cup by netting once in both halves. Alaba got the first goal while Real Madrid talisman (Benzema) sealed the winning. The result didn't surprise me as I anticipated the result. It was dawn on me that Madrid will win convincingly, after Frankfurt lost woefully to Bayern in their opening outing of the season.

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The Werner signing is finally done for Leipzig for a fee of 20 million euros. Leipzig must be very contented with having one of their best players back in the team now. He didn't have good days with Chelsea for a long time and he finally has an opportunity to show his real performance at his old team. I also wonder what Chelsea are thinking after sending Lukaku and Werner both in the same transfer window. However they might not make a big signing for the centre-forward position I assume.

And when they sold him they received 53 million. Therefore a financial gain in any case.
It is certainly better for Werner to change clubs. Somehow he did not feel so comfortable in London and you could see that. Besides, he wants to play in the World Cup and for that he has to be able to play. He will certainly do that more at Leipzig than at Chelsea.

I do agree that it shouldn't be really that shocking to see Werner making a profit for them since he didn't play "that" well in Chelsea, and I do agree that he will play as good as he can because of the world cup, but I think he will miss the world cup considering his opposition for the place he plays.

In the end, it is a good deal and he will score at least 20 goals in bundesliga this year, that's not too bad, I mean people look at 40 goals by Lewandowski and things that's normal and Haaland got close too if I am not wrong, so everyone expects that much but 20 goals is quite good in any league, and I think Werner has what it takes to do that easily.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 10, 2022, 01:34:51 PM

Leipzig have got what they wanted now. I still remember Timo Werner's marvelous season in the Bundesliga like 28 goals and 8 assists in 34 games. He played for Chelsea for two seasons only. Now I hope to see the same ambition from Werner here. Leipzig might be able to leave Dortmund behind in this season actually. If they get efficiency from Werner a lot then they might get ahead of all of the teams except Bayern Munich in the standings. This is just a guess for now and I'd be confident of something more later on.

The performance of RB Leipzig in the last season was quite commendable. And with Timo Werner in the team that performance is only going to get better in my opinion. They will be playing in the Champions League and I am quite sure that it is going to be something for Timo Werner to look forward to. Even though if he had stayed at Manchester City he would have had a greater chance of winning the Champions League.

But at RB Leipzig he will have a chance of performing better and standing out. And I believe with his help RB Leipzig will be able to push for the top two positions in the Bundesliga this season. Bayern Munich is going to be unbeatable by other teams in the Bundesliga as well as by RB Leipzig. So it is quite pointless to hope for the first position. However, I believe that the second position is within their grasp.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 10, 2022, 01:34:51 PM

Leipzig have got what they wanted now. I still remember Timo Werner's marvelous season in the Bundesliga like 28 goals and 8 assists in 34 games. He played for Chelsea for two seasons only. Now I hope to see the same ambition from Werner here. Leipzig might be able to leave Dortmund behind in this season actually. If they get efficiency from Werner a lot then they might get ahead of all of the teams except Bayern Munich in the standings. This is just a guess for now and I'd be confident of something more later on.

RB Leipzig can do better this new season, because after successfully bringing back their key striker, Timo Werner from Chelsea, it's a good deal for the German and RB Leipzig believe he's capable of scoring more goals. The Bundesliga league will be filled with variety of competition, those that will compete for goals, some assists and other trophies. I think RB Leipzig can pull up an challenge other big teams in the league, teams like Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund.

Timo Werner's performance at Chelsea has not been good. Basically, he could not play well in the Premier League. But the context of the Bundestag is different. If Timo Werner is able to adapt well to Leipzig, Leipzig's attack will be stronger. But I'm not sure if Timo Werner will fit in well with Leipzig's players.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 10, 2022, 01:34:51 PM

Leipzig have got what they wanted now. I still remember Timo Werner's marvelous season in the Bundesliga like 28 goals and 8 assists in 34 games. He played for Chelsea for two seasons only. Now I hope to see the same ambition from Werner here. Leipzig might be able to leave Dortmund behind in this season actually. If they get efficiency from Werner a lot then they might get ahead of all of the teams except Bayern Munich in the standings. This is just a guess for now and I'd be confident of something more later on.

RB Leipzig can do better this new season, because after successfully bringing back their key striker, Timo Werner from Chelsea, it's a good deal for the German and RB Leipzig believe he's capable of scoring more goals. The Bundesliga league will be filled with variety of competition, those that will compete for goals, some assists and other trophies. I think RB Leipzig can pull up an challenge other big teams in the league, teams like Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund.

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Leipzig have got what they wanted now. I still remember Timo Werner's marvelous season in the Bundesliga like 28 goals and 8 assists in 34 games. He played for Chelsea for two seasons only. Now I hope to see the same ambition from Werner here. Leipzig might be able to leave Dortmund behind in this season actually. If they get efficiency from Werner a lot then they might get ahead of all of the teams except Bayern Munich in the standings. This is just a guess for now and I'd be confident of something more later on.

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Quote from: BALIK on August 10, 2022, 01:27:32 PM

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Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

Werner is not at that level bruh, he is good, in an average way, but talking about best attackers, he is not good to be in that list, it is not about 'suppliers' or lack of support, he is not world class, he can't do too better than what he has done, he can score a few more goals, but not at the numbers to be called one of the best attackers. For chelsea, they lost money, but it happens in football, they thought they were investing in great strikers that will play for them for many years, but the plans didn't work, the players lost form, and they surely cannot sell them for the price they bought them, so they have to accept the loss.

Chelsea didn't have a chance to make much money by selling Lukaku and Warner. What is Warner's contribution to Chelsea's performance? He scored only 4 goals in the Premier League last season. Why would any team buy Timo Werner at a high price despite his poor performance as Chelsea's main striker? Werner was not successful with the Chelsea team. Chelsea did not get the expected performance from him. No club is interested in buying players at high prices if the players are not in the form.

He should not expect a high testimonial when considering selling Chelsea Werner. He really didn't perform very well last year. For now, I think he can only succeed if he returns to the Bundesliga. He will play with his own country and the style of play he knows. The premier league is not a league where every player can succeed. I can honestly say it's the hardest league in the world. Werner's EPL adventure can be up to here.

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Quote from: Z-tight on August 10, 2022, 12:41:21 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on August 09, 2022, 10:40:17 PM

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

Werner is not at that level bruh, he is good, in an average way, but talking about best attackers, he is not good to be in that list, it is not about 'suppliers' or lack of support, he is not world class, he can't do too better than what he has done, he can score a few more goals, but not at the numbers to be called one of the best attackers. For chelsea, they lost money, but it happens in football, they thought they were investing in great strikers that will play for them for many years, but the plans didn't work, the players lost form, and they surely cannot sell them for the price they bought them, so they have to accept the loss.

Chelsea didn't have a chance to make much money by selling Lukaku and Warner. What is Warner's contribution to Chelsea's performance? He scored only 4 goals in the Premier League last season. Why would any team buy Timo Werner at a high price despite his poor performance as Chelsea's main striker? Werner was not successful with the Chelsea team. Chelsea did not get the expected performance from him. No club is interested in buying players at high prices if the players are not in the form.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 09, 2022, 10:40:17 PM

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

Werner is not at that level bruh, he is good, in an average way, but talking about best attackers, he is not good to be in that list, it is not about 'suppliers' or lack of support, he is not world class, he can't do too better than what he has done, he can score a few more goals, but not at the numbers to be called one of the best attackers. For chelsea, they lost money, but it happens in football, they thought they were investing in great strikers that will play for them for many years, but the plans didn't work, the players lost form, and they surely cannot sell them for the price they bought them, so they have to accept the loss.

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All teams do it, just not all succeed, and that's the main difference between Bayern and the others. They are strong, while their opponents simply cannot withstand the onslaught. Bayern can win easily even without their key players in the squad, and now they have signed at least one decent player (Mane) that everyone has been waiting for. It remains to be seen if he is really worth it.

All teams try to do it, I might agree on that version. In fact few teams drop after the first goal scored, half teams became slower after the second one, most clubs became less threatening after scoring 3-4 goals, and after the 5th goal you find Bayern. Obviously I am not talking about playing vs very weak teams or nations but against average ones.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 10, 2022, 11:39:11 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on August 09, 2022, 10:40:17 PM

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

They did not sell these players only because of finance. These players can not play well with Tuchel tactics and the club chose the coach (Tuchel), not star players. We can discuss about Lukaku case that he likely needs more time. However, Lukaku after returning to Inter Milan shows that his heart and head no longer belong to Chelsea. Hence, it does not make sense for them to keep him in Chelsea.

For Werner, he was improved in last phase of past season but it is not a guarantee for his performance in this season. Moreover he wants to get more opportunities to play and want to be in Germany squad in World Cup. Returning to Leipzig is what he wants and Chelsea decided to let him go.

I think both cases are good from Chelsea side and good for future of two players too.

I think Werner is good, lucky Leipzig got him. Indeed, some good players if they don't fit the player's criteria then they won't be needed. The decision to leave was right, he would have got more playing hours if he was able to perform well in Leipzig.
But in history when he was at leipzig from 2016 to 2020 he was always the top choice, he almost played more than 30 times in the domestic league. Although indeed he did not score too many goals. as an assailant. He's far behind haaland or Nunez.

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