This is a very interesting statistics you just observed. My eyes have never been down to discover this. The goodnews for the three clubs is that if one joins the champions league, the remaining two will still play in Europe. As for the club that will join the champions league, I think Leipzig will do because when you check the overall form of the league, after Dortmund, the next in form is Leipzig, ahead of Leverkusen and Munich. So if they maintain their current form, they will make it to champions league.
I agree with you, Leipzig deserves to play in the Champions League next season. The club is doing well financially and this has a very positive effect on the players. Plus they play attacking football which is fun to watch. Hoffenhei and Veiburg have the same number of points but I don't think they can beat Leipzig. The Europa League is what they will have to be content with, if of course, Cologne does not interfere with them. 
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For lack of intrigue at the top, you have to come up with other "exciting" rivalries 
I don't think I need to be evasive about that, and I think you have the same thoughts as me. Because seeing the competition at the top of the table, Bayern Munich is too superior to look for a natural counter. Although now the points difference is slightly closer, Bayern Munich is still difficult to beat other teams. Although it could happen, but it takes a harder effort that must be done by other teams.
The problem is that even if Bayern starts to lose a lot of points, the clubs pursuing them do not look so solid to be considered as potential champions. For example, in the EPL, Liverpool looks really intimidating and looks like a potential champion. In the German championship there is Bayern and all the rest, at the moment I don’t see a single bright club that would look good in the place of Bayern.
Currently their closest competitor as usual is Dortmund and it will also be very difficult for them because they are still 6 points behind now.
I think Bayern's hegemony will continue and there's even no sign of stopping this season. They will only be at the top with a significant difference in points like in previous seasons
Hoffenheim should have won this game, they are better than Stuttgart. They are a red zone team, also they are not registering a win in their last 5 matches.
I predict that Hoffenheim will dominate this match, at least he can score 2 goals or even more.
This is a probable outcome and doesn't pay too well, but it could be a good bet. Hoffenheim win pays 1.55. Same quote for Hoffenheim to score 2 or more goals. Stuttgart was pretty unsuccessful recently, they are in trouble and desperately need points if they want to stay in the Bundesliga. I doubt they will be able to do it against Hoffenheim. I predict that Hoffenheim will dominate this match, at least he can score 2 goals or even more.
The opening match and the only one tomorrow is Hoffenheim v Stuttgart. Hoffenheim are having a wonderful season and they are in the competition for the fourth position in the standings currently. And this is another comfortable match for them to win without much problem. Hoffenheim are a great team home in the Bundesliga. And Stuttgart have been terrible in matches away. I remember that Stuttgart won by 3-1 home but I don't have that kind of expectation this time. Hoffenheim should be victorious here.
Hoffenheim should have won this game, they are better than Stuttgart. They are a red zone team, also they are not registering a win in their last 5 matches.I predict that Hoffenheim will dominate this match, at least he can score 2 goals or even more.
The opening match and the only one tomorrow is Hoffenheim v Stuttgart. Hoffenheim are having a wonderful season and they are in the competition for the fourth position in the standings currently. And this is another comfortable match for them to win without much problem. Hoffenheim are a great team home in the Bundesliga. And Stuttgart have been terrible in matches away. I remember that Stuttgart won by 3-1 home but I don't have that kind of expectation this time. Hoffenheim should be victorious here.
I also think that Stuttgart will not win this game. They last time they have won was against Wolfsburg in December and they have not won since. Hoffenheim will try to keep their place in the table to be able to play internationally next season.
The problem is that even if Bayern starts to lose a lot of points, the clubs pursuing them do not look so solid to be considered as potential champions. For example, in the EPL, Liverpool looks really intimidating and looks like a potential champion. In the German championship there is Bayern and all the rest, at the moment I don’t see a single bright club that would look good in the place of Bayern.
They really have no equal competition. Even if there is maybe only Dortmund, but it can be seen whether Dortmund has the ambition to win? I don't think so, they are still comfortable with creating star players and after that make a profit by selling them.
I didn't like how Bayern Munich played in the first 45 minutes. Greuther Fürth was very aggressive and the 1:0 was therefore deserved. It was clear that Bayern had to play differently in the second half. And they did. But even after Fürth's own goal, Fürth fought again and had a few more chances. In the end like most times Bayern scored the goal.
For Fürth, however, the fight came too late and they will be relegated.
For Fürth, however, the fight came too late and they will be relegated.
Bayern play poorly in defense, that's a fact. As for the game arrhythmia, this is their old trick - sometimes they specifically give the initiative to the opponent so that it opens up and gives more opportunities for its own attack. Bayern are a very smart club and never play according to "one plan A", they cleverly alternate between high pressing, return of the initiative and playing on the counterattacks.
So you mean it was all arranged? Then they have fooled a lot of people.
The Bayern players are up to anything and you have to be careful. They are know every trick in the book. But I don't think they deliberately played the way they did. They were nervous and not convincing enough.
You're right, sometimes I think that in the first half what Bayern did was try to keep the rival away and tire them out, sometimes the coaches do that to be able to save all the energy for the second half, which is the most decisive, In this case, the English teams sometimes have strategies that make the rival tire them out in order to crush them, and since Bayern have the players to define a game at any moment, then it is a matter of waiting for the perfect moment to do it, and the true, that's how it was.
Many strong german teams are falling behind in performance and they have difficulties showing results even in the bundesliga last season it was shalke and this season wolfsburg and gladbach even bayern are struggling to win their games despite the large win today they played a terrible first half and they lost countless times already.
Are you sure you write about Bayern Munich? True, they lost 3 or 4 games very poorly, but Bayern is not playing badly. It is definitely one of the best clubs in the world, so what you wrote is very damaging about them. Poor matches can hit anyone. Today Bayern slept in the first half, but in the second half they showed what they can do.
I would say that he is right about Bayern Munich struggling a bit here and there. They are losing games in the Bundesliga which they usually would never lose as we all know. They have lost in the DFB Cup against Gladbach in a home game 0 - 5. They almost lost against Salzburg in the Champions League. They are definitely not in the best shape possible right now, but I also agree that they are still a team that is able to beat any other team in the world. Yet it would be in their best interest to stabilize their performances much more in the near future.
I remember this match well from the cup where Bayern Munich were floored 5-0. This is not the Bayern Munich of years ago that crushed everyone. It has been shown by several opponents that they are vulnerable and it has also been shown a few times this season. Bayern has been lucky in the Champions League, but if they continue like this they will at least not enter the Champions League. As far as the competition is concerned, we are still good enough to win this competition and especially because the competitors are losing in the competition a lot of points left and right. This weekend they still won quite simply, even everything against the last.
Well, I see one chance when the Bundesliga could become interesting once more. If Dortmund keeps winning the next three or four games and Haaland comes back, we still have the showdown between Bayern Munich and Dortmund in a couple of weeks. Now its still 6 points and the goal ratio speaks in favor for Bayern as well, but at least it would get a little more exciting if Bayern drops some points until the game between the two teams takes place.
I agree with you but the problem is that Bayern Munich is the type of team so strong that to lose points is almost impossible, it is difficult to imagine that Bayern Munich can lose 6 points and that Dortmund can win the games and manage to have the same points as the Bayern Munich and Bundesliga becomes more interesting, Bayern Munich has become a team that does not leave the throne and for it to be removed from the throne it is necessary that it has a strong team and that it beats Bayern Munich with a big difference in points and i'm not seeing it happen anytime soon
For lack of intrigue at the top, you have to come up with other "exciting" rivalries
I don't think I need to be evasive about that, and I think you have the same thoughts as me. Because seeing the competition at the top of the table, Bayern Munich is too superior to look for a natural counter. Although now the points difference is slightly closer, Bayern Munich is still difficult to beat other teams. Although it could happen, but it takes a harder effort that must be done by other teams.
The problem is that even if Bayern starts to lose a lot of points, the clubs pursuing them do not look so solid to be considered as potential champions. For example, in the EPL, Liverpool looks really intimidating and looks like a potential champion. In the German championship there is Bayern and all the rest, at the moment I don’t see a single bright club that would look good in the place of Bayern.
Unfortunately, Bayern don't have opponents that could prevent them from winning the Bundesliga and that won't change anytime soon.
For lack of intrigue at the top, you have to come up with other "exciting" rivalries
I don't think I need to be evasive about that, and I think you have the same thoughts as me. Because seeing the competition at the top of the table, Bayern Munich is too superior to look for a natural counter. Although now the points difference is slightly closer, Bayern Munich is still difficult to beat other teams. Although it could happen, but it takes a harder effort that must be done by other teams.
The problem is that even if Bayern starts to lose a lot of points, the clubs pursuing them do not look so solid to be considered as potential champions. For example, in the EPL, Liverpool looks really intimidating and looks like a potential champion. In the German championship there is Bayern and all the rest, at the moment I don’t see a single bright club that would look good in the place of Bayern.
The opening match and the only one tomorrow is Hoffenheim v Stuttgart. Hoffenheim are having a wonderful season and they are in the competition for the fourth position in the standings currently. And this is another comfortable match for them to win without much problem. Hoffenheim are a great team home in the Bundesliga. And Stuttgart have been terrible in matches away. I remember that Stuttgart won by 3-1 home but I don't have that kind of expectation this time. Hoffenheim should be victorious here.
I also think that Stuttgart will not win this game. They last time they have won was against Wolfsburg in December and they have not won since. Hoffenheim will try to keep their place in the table to be able to play internationally next season.
The opening match and the only one tomorrow is Hoffenheim v Stuttgart. Hoffenheim are having a wonderful season and they are in the competition for the fourth position in the standings currently. And this is another comfortable match for them to win without much problem. Hoffenheim are a great team home in the Bundesliga. And Stuttgart have been terrible in matches away. I remember that Stuttgart won by 3-1 home but I don't have that kind of expectation this time. Hoffenheim should be victorious here.
I also think that Stuttgart will not win this game. They last time they have won was against Wolfsburg in December and they have not won since. Hoffenheim will try to keep their place in the table to be able to play internationally next season.
The opening match and the only one tomorrow is Hoffenheim v Stuttgart. Hoffenheim are having a wonderful season and they are in the competition for the fourth position in the standings currently. And this is another comfortable match for them to win without much problem. Hoffenheim are a great team home in the Bundesliga. And Stuttgart have been terrible in matches away. I remember that Stuttgart won by 3-1 home but I don't have that kind of expectation this time. Hoffenheim should be victorious here.
Bayern Munich, which has always left its mark on the league when it comes to the German league, is the most serious candidate on the way to the championship. Although Dortmund is a good team in general, they do not have a stable league streak. I think it will break out of the race in the coming weeks.
Bayern Munich will also win the championship this year. It would take a miracle for that not to happen. And if they win, it will be the 10th championship in a row. Every year the same.. somebody interested who wins in the coming years? That is already very boring. Sports in America are different, almost every year a different team wins, it's much more exciting.Bayern Munich has dominated the Bundesliga for a long time and its strongest competitor at the moment is only Dortmund, Dortmund which continues to be the strongest rival of Bayern Munich has experienced many failures every season to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, so I think in the next few years we will only see the top spot continue to belong to Bayern Munich and Dortmund are still satisfied in the runner-up position, in my opinion if Dortmund, which has fairly stable finances, can't break the dominance of Bayern Munich, then why do we hope for other teams?
I think American football is more competitive and also the clubs are financially balanced, so every club has the same chance of winning and that's why we see American football has a different champion every season.
There is something interesting if we look at the current Bundesliga standings. Yes 3 teams have the same points with 37 points, Leipzig, Hoffenheim and Freiburg. What distinguishes them is only in the collective scoring goals. The Champions League zone is at stake here, they really want to show who is the best among them and win 1 Champions League ticket next season. It's worth waiting for what they will do.
This is a very interesting statistics you just observed. My eyes have never been down to discover this. The goodnews for the three clubs is that if one joins the champions league, the remaining two will still play in Europe. As for the club that will join the champions league, I think Leipzig will do because when you check the overall form of the league, after Dortmund, the next in form is Leipzig, ahead of Leverkusen and Munich. So if they maintain their current form, they will make it to champions league. 
There is something interesting if we look at the current Bundesliga standings. Yes 3 teams have the same points with 37 points, Leipzig, Hoffenheim and Freiburg. What distinguishes them is only in the collective scoring goals. The Champions League zone is at stake here, they really want to show who is the best among them and win 1 Champions League ticket next season. It's worth waiting for what they will do.
This is a very interesting statistics you just observed. My eyes have never been down to discover this. The goodnews for the three clubs is that if one joins the champions league, the remaining two will still play in Europe. As for the club that will join the champions league, I think Leipzig will do because when you check the overall form of the league, after Dortmund, the next in form is Leipzig, ahead of Leverkusen and Munich. So if they maintain their current form, they will make it to champions league. 
Many strong german teams are falling behind in performance and they have difficulties showing results even in the bundesliga last season it was shalke and this season wolfsburg and gladbach even bayern are struggling to win their games despite the large win today they played a terrible first half and they lost countless times already.
Are you sure you write about Bayern Munich? True, they lost 3 or 4 games very poorly, but Bayern is not playing badly. It is definitely one of the best clubs in the world, so what you wrote is very damaging about them. Poor matches can hit anyone. Today Bayern slept in the first half, but in the second half they showed what they can do.
I would say that he is right about Bayern Munich struggling a bit here and there. They are losing games in the Bundesliga which they usually would never lose as we all know. They have lost in the DFB Cup against Gladbach in a home game 0 - 5. They almost lost against Salzburg in the Champions League. They are definitely not in the best shape possible right now, but I also agree that they are still a team that is able to beat any other team in the world. Yet it would be in their best interest to stabilize their performances much more in the near future.
I remember this match well from the cup where Bayern Munich were floored 5-0. This is not the Bayern Munich of years ago that crushed everyone. It has been shown by several opponents that they are vulnerable and it has also been shown a few times this season. Bayern has been lucky in the Champions League, but if they continue like this they will at least not enter the Champions League. As far as the competition is concerned, we are still good enough to win this competition and especially because the competitors are losing in the competition a lot of points left and right. This weekend they still won quite simply, even everything against the last.
Well, I see one chance when the Bundesliga could become interesting once more. If Dortmund keeps winning the next three or four games and Haaland comes back, we still have the showdown between Bayern Munich and Dortmund in a couple of weeks. Now its still 6 points and the goal ratio speaks in favor for Bayern as well, but at least it would get a little more exciting if Bayern drops some points until the game between the two teams takes place.
There is something interesting if we look at the current Bundesliga standings. Yes 3 teams have the same points with 37 points, Leipzig, Hoffenheim and Freiburg. What distinguishes them is only in the collective scoring goals. The Champions League zone is at stake here, they really want to show who is the best among them and win 1 Champions League ticket next season. It's worth waiting for what they will do.
For lack of intrigue at the top, you have to come up with other "exciting" rivalries
I hope Leipzig will win this competition as the other two clubs make me very doubtful that they can do well in the Champions League. Only Bavaria consistently performs well in the international arena, this is a big problem for the German championship. (Like: look, rank 12-15 have the same points, what an exciting fight )I also consider Leipzig stronger than Hoffenheim and Freiburg. If you look at their results, Freiburg won 10 games and lost 6, Hoffenheim/Leipzig won 11 and lost 8. These are not the results of truly strong & consistent teams. Leipzig had a weak first half of the season, if they find back their old strength they will easily outrun the other 2
Bayern is indeed one of the richest clubs in Europe, they can buy the players they want, if Bayern need new players.
They are rich but it's not only and most important thing they have. Bayern actually have healthy finance which is different than other rich clubs like Manchester City, PSG, Real Madrid or Barcelona. More clubs are like these. They rely on budget from owners and income from league, tournament. They over spend for player salary and when owners change their strategy financially for the club or the club has some fail in tournament, league which in turn affect income, they fall into financial crisis. Barcelona is such a club as well as Real Madrid. Manchester City and PSG totally rely on their owners.Quote
And I think at the end of the season Bayern will bring in at least one new defender to replace Suele. According to rumors Bayern want Antonio Rudiger whose contract
with Chelsea will expire soon. Hopefully Bayern can get Rudiger, because I was quite worried that relying on Upamecano would make Bayern's defense easy for opposing players to pass.
Rudiger is no longer young so I am sure he is not main target of Bayern. Bayern is a club with a strategic plan to sign with young and talented players. They aim at long term plans, not short term plans. We see they spent money to buy Lewandowski and used him in many years. Sane, Alaba, Gnarby, Coman, Davies, etc. they are all young players when they joined Bayern.with Chelsea will expire soon. Hopefully Bayern can get Rudiger, because I was quite worried that relying on Upamecano would make Bayern's defense easy for opposing players to pass.
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Regarding your prediction that Dortmund will not harm Bayern at the end of the season, it is actually quite reasonable. But me and a few others might be a little bored when we see Bayern winning again.
It is better for Bundesliga if Dortmund can take the trophy from Bayern but it is very difficult mission for them. I personally don't believe Dortmund will succeed but I hope them will get it. 
I agree Dayot Upamecano often makes mistakes, maybe because he has only been signed this season, so he has not adapted to the Bayern game.
Indeed, in important matches, Nagelsmann usually keeps Upamecano on the bench, because Nagelsmann was also aware of Upamecano's poor form.
Hopefully Upamecano can find his best game soon, because next season Bayern will lose Suele who moved to Dortmund, so Upamecano will be played
more if Suele has moved. Surprises at the end of the season can happen not only Bayern drop points, but Dortmund must also be able to win. But we know
it's a little difficult to expect Dortmund to play consistently until the end of the season.
Indeed, in important matches, Nagelsmann usually keeps Upamecano on the bench, because Nagelsmann was also aware of Upamecano's poor form.
Hopefully Upamecano can find his best game soon, because next season Bayern will lose Suele who moved to Dortmund, so Upamecano will be played
more if Suele has moved. Surprises at the end of the season can happen not only Bayern drop points, but Dortmund must also be able to win. But we know
it's a little difficult to expect Dortmund to play consistently until the end of the season.
Actually, Bayern Munich don't need to worry about any of their players because they have enough money to just buy another and make the team even stronger.
But it's a little concerning if prayer does not live up to the expectation.
And about the ending of the season, I don't think that Dortmund is going to give too much trouble to Bayern Munich, and I think Dortmund being the runner-up is kind of inevitable at this point.
Bayern is indeed one of the richest clubs in Europe, they can buy the players they want, if Bayern need new players. And I think at the end of
the season Bayern will bring in at least one new defender to replace Suele. According to rumors Bayern want Antonio Rudiger whose contract
with Chelsea will expire soon. Hopefully Bayern can get Rudiger, because I was quite worried that relying on Upamecano would make Bayern's
defense easy for opposing players to pass. Regarding your prediction that Dortmund will not harm Bayern at the end of the season, it is actually
quite reasonable. But me and a few others might be a little bored when we see Bayern winning again. So I give my support to Dortmund to be
able to surprise at the end of this season, although I also realize that Dortmund's chances of winning are very small this season.
For lack of intrigue at the top, you have to come up with other "exciting" rivalries
I don't think I need to be evasive about that, and I think you have the same thoughts as me. Because seeing the competition at the top of the table, Bayern Munich is too superior to look for a natural counter. Although now the points difference is slightly closer, Bayern Munich is still difficult to beat other teams. Although it could happen, but it takes a harder effort that must be done by other teams.
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