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Quote from: DeathAngel on April 06, 2020, 12:59:17 PM

Bayern Munich were among a number of Bundesliga clubs to return to training for the first time since the campaign was halted by the coronavirus pandemic.

The champions trained in groups of five but without any contact, as did Borussia Monchengladbach and Wolfsburg.

I don't see the need to rush the team back to training during this pandemic. The country may have not been able to prevent a heavy impact, but still the health and the safety of the players should come first ahead of keeping them fit or restarting the league.
Ensuring socal distancing is a good step, but the virus can still be transmitted through droplets and contaminated surfaces.
In my opinion; football can wait.

Sport can wait that's correct, but sport has long been more about money than sport itself. There is a lot of pressure from the TV contracts etc.
It will be exciting if it goes on, probably with ghost games, even if I think nothing of sports without spectators.

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Quote from: bct_ail on April 07, 2020, 05:42:55 AM

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Though I am still hoping for a relegation playoff between Hamburg and Bremen, should be fun Grin

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one of the best north derbies ever!! Grin

that was a glorious time at werder bremen - unfortunately those days are now over Cry

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 07, 2020, 03:02:34 AM

Though I am still hoping for a relegation playoff between Hamburg and Bremen, should be fun Grin

Because of this? Grin

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Quote from: swogerino on April 07, 2020, 03:17:28 AM

Things look not so good for the moment regarding the spread of the virus.We may have to wait until end of August or early September before we have fully recovered from it.If the training is conducted following World Health Organization advices there is nothing wrong to go training because the players all have personal cars and when in training they will keep the distance from each other.

How to keep social distancing when players are in trainings? It is unrealistic. I thought this graph makes sense. When the first wave of outbreak is controlled, and the curve flattens out, that result in social distancing will be lessened but after that we will see another wave of outbreak with maybe lower peak. And things will keep going on, bottom, lessen, peak, etc.

I think if players are allowed to go training, then playing in closed stadiums, they must be obeyed strict quarantine rules that are different from locals. I don't believe players will accept stricter quarantine rules on them.

Quote from: infofront on April 06, 2020, 10:02:39 PM

Check out this graph from JP Morgan:

This is based partially on the second wave emerging in China. Are we going to keep doing these lockdowns every couple of months until a vaccine arrives?

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Quote from: logfiles on April 06, 2020, 06:34:17 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on April 06, 2020, 12:59:17 PM

Bayern Munich were among a number of Bundesliga clubs to return to training for the first time since the campaign was halted by the coronavirus pandemic.

The champions trained in groups of five but without any contact, as did Borussia Monchengladbach and Wolfsburg.

Well Germany is a little fortunate considering the fact that they haven't had so many fatalities compared to Italy or Spain despite having a relatively high number of confirmed cases but i think the decision to start of training by some clubs has been rushed. Why not wait until things clear up first?

Things look not so good for the moment regarding the spread of the virus.We may have to wait until end of August or early September before we have fully recovered from it.If the training is conducted following World Health Organization advices there is nothing wrong to go training because the players all have personal cars and when in training they will keep the distance from each other.

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Quote from: bct_ail on April 07, 2020, 02:36:11 AM

That is not true. Bremen are allowed to train in small groups. Also Hamburg and Hannover96. Money rulez.

Yes, correct. Initially they were not allowed, but they got a derogation from the Senate. This virus brings up some weird situations, where a football team needs permission from authorities to do some training. But whether Bremen trains or not, shouldn't make much of a difference, they will relegate anyway. Though I am still hoping for a relegation playoff between Hamburg and Bremen, should be fun Grin

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 06, 2020, 01:54:55 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on April 06, 2020, 12:59:17 PM

Bayern Munich were among a number of Bundesliga clubs to return to training for the first time since the campaign was halted by the coronavirus pandemic.

There emerged discussions regarding that today, because some teams complain about an unfair unadvantage. A team like Bremen for example is not allowed to train

That is not true. Bremen are allowed to train in small groups. Also Hamburg and Hannover96. Money rulez.

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Quote from: logfiles on April 06, 2020, 06:34:17 PM

Well Germany is a little fortunate considering the fact that they haven't had so many fatalities compared to Italy or Spain despite having a relatively high number of confirmed cases but i think the decision to start of training by some clubs has been rushed. Why not wait until things clear up first?

Fortunate? I don't think so. Germany has a very strong health facilities nationwide and they have one of the best Insitute on virus, Robert Koch. The nation has one of the best nationwide ICU facilities and their approach to do massive test help to flat out the curve of death tolls. More assymptomatic and mild cases detected via massive test, the lower fatality rate will be. That is what we have in Germany.

From reports, I also see Germany has their biggest infected population is much younger than in Italy's so it is their luck, I agree. We know the virus is more dangerous to the elderly and in Italy, more than 40% of death tolls come from the age group of 80 - 89 and if we count for the age groups from 60 and above, the percent will be higher than 80% of all death tolls. That's terrible.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on April 06, 2020, 12:59:17 PM

Bayern Munich were among a number of Bundesliga clubs to return to training for the first time since the campaign was halted by the coronavirus pandemic.

The champions trained in groups of five but without any contact, as did Borussia Monchengladbach and Wolfsburg.

Well Germany is a little fortunate considering the fact that they haven't had so many fatalities compared to Italy or Spain despite having a relatively high number of confirmed cases but i think the decision to start of training by some clubs has been rushed. Why not wait until things clear up first?

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Quote from: DeathAngel on April 06, 2020, 12:59:17 PM

Bayern Munich were among a number of Bundesliga clubs to return to training for the first time since the campaign was halted by the coronavirus pandemic.

There emerged discussions regarding that today, because some teams complain about an unfair unadvantage. A team like Bremen for example is not allowed to train, because each of the 16 states in Germany can make their own decision as to whether teams are allowed to train (in small groups) or not. And the state of Bremen does not allow it - federalism can be good and bad Grin

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Bayern Munich were among a number of Bundesliga clubs to return to training for the first time since the campaign was halted by the coronavirus pandemic.

The champions trained in groups of five but without any contact, as did Borussia Monchengladbach and Wolfsburg.

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There is no way you can ask the players to risk their lives and basically march them to their death (potentially) and tell them "you will have masks don't worry" and expect them to agree on it. I mean we are talking about a disease that could potentially kill them, of course they are young and they are peak physical condition for humans so I do not think it would be a high chance, but even with less than 1% chances we are talking about a possibility, between all the players in all the teams and all the staff there is a potential at least one person will die because of corona if the league comes back now.

So, they should still keep waiting for a while and when there is a medicine found and it cures people, that is when they can finally come back if they have to.

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I am surprised that Neuer after all this time with heavy injuries has returned at the top.
He is one of the best goalkeepers in the world but in my opinion his performance has been dropped significantly during the last season. At least he is keeping on a decent form!

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 05, 2020, 07:25:41 PM

Quote from: logfiles on April 05, 2020, 06:53:22 PM

Let's be honest, how do you expect someone to play while wearing a mask?

Well, it would be the same for everyone, so level playing field again Grin

And we have seen it before^^:

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/de/bundesliga/news/aubameyang-spiderman-maske.jsp

And there is also these masks that some runners/athletes use for training to improve their respiratory fitness - some smoking players should be grateful then. I agree though, this is very unlikely to happen. But if someone told me some weeks ago, that it's possible to shut down whole countries/economies in a matter of days, I would have told him to seek for medical help. If it becomes mandatory to wear a mask for the players during matches, they should also reduce playing time to 2x30 minutes to compensate for breathing issues Tongue

and there is the same player with another mask... Wink

and these two variations would not help to prevent the infection in this case:

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Quote from: logfiles on April 05, 2020, 06:53:22 PM

Let's be honest, how do you expect someone to play while wearing a mask?

Well, it would be the same for everyone, so level playing field again Grin

And we have seen it before^^:

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/de/bundesliga/news/aubameyang-spiderman-maske.jsp

And there is also these masks that some runners/athletes use for training to improve their respiratory fitness - some smoking players should be grateful then. I agree though, this is very unlikely to happen. But if someone told me some weeks ago, that it's possible to shut down whole countries/economies in a matter of days, I would have told him to seek for medical help. If it becomes mandatory to wear a mask for the players during matches, they should also reduce playing time to 2x30 minutes to compensate for breathing issues Tongue

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Quote from: bct_ail on April 05, 2020, 04:48:08 PM

Players could play with a mask. Or quarantine for all players.

Seriously . Players have a contract. If your employer takes Actions to reduce the risk of infection, you have to go to your work. That will be the same for the soccer club. But I guess the Minesterium for sports will not allow it.

Let's be honest, how do you expect someone to play while wearing a mask?
If you have ever worn one i am very sure you know how hard it is to breath... Now, imagine someone running around the pitch for 90 minutes while breathing through the mask Grin

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The Kicker reported that the German Bundesliga might continue its season at the beginning of May. All remaining games of the season should be played behind closed doors. However, the DFL has denied these statements.

There is no way they will can, the curve of the virus is still looking bad, players will never accept to play with the high risk to be infected.

Players could play with a mask. Or quarantine for all players.

Seriously . Players have a contract. If your employer takes Actions to reduce the risk of infection, you have to go to your work. That will be the same for the soccer club. But I guess the Minesterium for sports will not allow it.

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Four players from the German Bundesliga are among the players with the recent highest pass success rate. I expected Neuer and Alaba in this list, but I am very surprised by Witsel beeing one of the top performers. There is no denying that Dortmund made a very good transfer here. Let's see how the statistics look like when the season resumes.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/imiasanmia

Manuel Neuer and David Alaba in the XI with the best pass accuracy rate in Europe's top 5 leagues this season [WhoScored]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1246162956347486208

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on April 04, 2020, 01:12:15 PM

Quote from: bullrun2024bro on April 04, 2020, 11:58:50 AM

The Kicker reported that the German Bundesliga might continue its season at the beginning of May. All remaining games of the season should be played behind closed doors. However, the DFL has denied these statements.

There is no way they will can, the curve of the virus is still looking bad, players will never accept to play with the high risk to be infected.

the new violence in a football game will now be the coughing of the opponent and replaces spitting and other various unpleasant things... Lips sealed

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