Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 2763.

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Quote from: efialtis on January 17, 2020, 10:45:31 AM

Finally Bundesliga action again - the last weeks were hard for us BuLi fans... Cheesy

Tonight we will see Schalke vs Gladbach: 2 teams that performed way better in the first round than most would have expected. If I had to place a bet - I will not (except a little one for the streak challenge Cool

) - I would pick a draw. I guess both would be happy with a draw after the break so anyone willing to take some risk, pick X. Wink

I think it will be an interesting match with a lot of goals, but I am almost certain that if there is a winner with a minimal goal difference, 70% I am sure of a draw.
Two teams at the top of the standings, Mgladbach is even ahead of Bayern and Dortmund.

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Quote from: uray on January 17, 2020, 11:30:48 AM

Quote from: efialtis on January 17, 2020, 10:45:31 AM

Tonight we will see Schalke vs Gladbach: 2 teams that performed way better in the first round than most would have expected. If I had to place a bet - I will not (except a little one for the streak challenge Cool

) - I would pick a draw. I guess both would be happy with a draw after the break so anyone willing to take some risk, pick X. Wink

I am also expecting a draw in this match because if you look at the past few matches for Schalke they ended up in a draw while Borussia Monchengladbach is struggling to win while traveling and if you take that into account this match will probably end up in a draw and under 3.5 goals is a good bet in my opinion.

Schalke vs Gladbach are indeed a great and strong team but they do not want to be left behind points to win this match from one of the teams, Gladbach has a good chance because they will remain in second place after being overtaken by Leipzig.
Bets will be challenging if one wins and there will be no draw.

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Quote from: efialtis on January 17, 2020, 10:45:31 AM

Tonight we will see Schalke vs Gladbach: 2 teams that performed way better in the first round than most would have expected. If I had to place a bet - I will not (except a little one for the streak challenge Cool

) - I would pick a draw. I guess both would be happy with a draw after the break so anyone willing to take some risk, pick X. Wink

I am also expecting a draw in this match because if you look at the past few matches for Schalke they ended up in a draw while Borussia Monchengladbach is struggling to win while traveling and if you take that into account this match will probably end up in a draw and under 3.5 goals is a good bet in my opinion.

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Finally Bundesliga action again - the last weeks were hard for us BuLi fans... Cheesy

Tonight we will see Schalke vs Gladbach: 2 teams that performed way better in the first round than most would have expected. If I had to place a bet - I will not (except a little one for the streak challenge Cool

) - I would pick a draw. I guess both would be happy with a draw after the break so anyone willing to take some risk, pick X. Wink

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One game today in Bundesliga and it is a derby match Schalke vs. Borusia Monchengladbach.
Monchengladbach is second place in Bundesliga and with win today can take first place, and put preasure on Lepzig.
Home team has more players that are not available today, and in last eight h2h they did not win against Borusia.
Schalke is also without defeat at home since August.

Looks like a draw to me, or double chance X2.

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For Week 18 there is a very interesting match between Schalke vs Muenchengladbach. The host will obviously play all out to get 3 points. They will cut the distance with the visitors to 2 if they win. This will keep their hopes of finishing in the last 4 of the season. For Muenchengladbach this is a test of whether they will really be consistent until the end of the season to continue to be in the race zone for the Bundesliga champions. My prediction is that the match will end in a draw.

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Quote from: jostorres on January 02, 2020, 11:49:28 AM

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Haaland will quickly adapt and show his abilities at Dortmund, I'm sure of that. his age is still relatively young (19 years) there will certainly be many achievements that will be achieved with Dortmund.

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Quote from: jostorres on January 02, 2020, 11:49:28 AM

Everyone is reacting to Haland move like it is some sort of new superstar is rising but I feel like how he plays doesn't look sustainable. I am not an expert on strikers and I know that a whole team would have better scouts than me so what I am saying is definitely wrong but I am going to say it anyway.

Haland plays with an amazing position knowledge, he knows where he needs to be all the time and that is amazing, however he also depends on his fitness a lot, his power/speed/acceleration etc all helps him immensely, even tho Ronaldo is still super fit and jumps higher than everyone at age 35, "normally" thats not really easy to achieve, most of the time players age badly.

Haland maybe a good even great player for the next few years but as soon as he reaches to a huge team like Bayern on their nation or Madird/Barcelona or even Liverpool I don' know, a team that plays for champions league title, he will realize he is not a good role player at all.

But he's still young. He's got about 10 years+ of bright future ahead of him. He doesn't need to be as fit as Ronaldo in order to perform well or score goals. We have seen lots of strikers who love to use power and pace but haven't failed to achieve well in top clubs like Salah, Drogba, Aubameyang, Thierry, Rooney. In fact the attributes you have mentioned above should be looked as his strengths and not his weaknesses as a centre forward.

Going to a big team won't stop him... I believe he will even dominate... beside, Borrusia Dortmund is part of the "huge" teams you are thinking of.

Who wouldn't love a centre foward with lots of power and speed?

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Quote from: Juggy777 on January 02, 2020, 08:26:11 AM

@EdenHazard let me explain this to you Halland had a release clause of €20 millions which was about to be activated once the January transfer window began, and his agent wanted huge amounts from Manchester United because he knew Ole was desperate to get Halland.

However Manchester United walked away from the deal and his only remaining option was Dortmund, who agreed to pay those huge amounts demanded by Hallands agent. Now I know you’ll yet not be convinced so look at Pogbas transfer from Juventus to Manchester United, it took place only because of the money he made.

Ah that's makes sense now.
I heard that raiola also prevent haaland to move to Juventus as Italian clubs doesn't have a good youngster management. No other choice
Dortmund is the perfect place for him.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on January 02, 2020, 01:53:18 AM

But one thing that is very sure about haaland move to Dortmund... in the next two years or three, he'll signed for Bayern munich with crazy amount of money involved..

Looking at the way Bayern Munich have bought players from their rival Dortmund in the past, then I wouldn't be ruling this one out from happening, though if Dortmund are smart enough, they'll stop selling their star players to their rivals, how can they compete if they keep doing that.

However the cause of Haalands decision to move to Bourussia Dortmund is, the fact remains that he is now officially their player, and I just hope all the hype/media attention surrounding him wouldn't affect him, the boy has got some talent, so let's get over the transfer/dad/agent fee and see how quickly he'll adapt in Germany and how well his game will improve at Dortmund.

They are smart in business but looks like lack of vision, to get trophies.
The high expectation on haaland would only put him in pressure.
However Let's see on his first 10 appearances then we can a little bit judge him straight.

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Quote from: jostorres on January 02, 2020, 11:49:28 AM

Haland maybe a good even great player for the next few years but as soon as he reaches to a huge team like Bayern on their nation or Madird/Barcelona or even Liverpool I don' know, a team that plays for champions league title, he will realize he is not a good role player at all.

What are you talking about? That Dortmund isn't a world class team and they are just some kind of top 5 team in the Bundesliga? Yeah they may finish the league inconsistently but during the last five years they have finished second in the table right after Bayen Munich during 2018-2019 and 2015-2016 season and it just shows that they can even be on par with the top team of their league. If Haland would like to prove himself I think he has one of the best teams to do so and he is on the perfect spot to test his skills, not because he isn't playing for one of the top teams in Europe he doesn't deserve to be seen as a good player.

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Quote from: jostorres on January 02, 2020, 11:49:28 AM

Everyone is reacting to Haland move like it is some sort of new superstar is rising but I feel like how he plays doesn't look sustainable. I am not an expert on strikers and I know that a whole team would have better scouts than me so what I am saying is definitely wrong but I am going to say it anyway.

Haland plays with an amazing position knowledge, he knows where he needs to be all the time and that is amazing, however he also depends on his fitness a lot, his power/speed/acceleration etc all helps him immensely, even tho Ronaldo is still super fit and jumps higher than everyone at age 35, "normally" thats not really easy to achieve, most of the time players age badly.

Haland maybe a good even great player for the next few years but as soon as he reaches to a huge team like Bayern on their nation or Madird/Barcelona or even Liverpool I don' know, a team that plays for champions league title, he will realize he is not a good role player at all.

Well he has been scoring a lot of goals and that's the number one job for every striker and he seems to be doing it perfectly but strikers are mostly known for scoring in the big games so now that he has moved to Dortmund, he is going to have some really good opportunities to prove how good a player he is. I am sure he is going to be a great player maybe like Lewandowski as time progresses.

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Everyone is reacting to Haland move like it is some sort of new superstar is rising but I feel like how he plays doesn't look sustainable. I am not an expert on strikers and I know that a whole team would have better scouts than me so what I am saying is definitely wrong but I am going to say it anyway.

Haland plays with an amazing position knowledge, he knows where he needs to be all the time and that is amazing, however he also depends on his fitness a lot, his power/speed/acceleration etc all helps him immensely, even tho Ronaldo is still super fit and jumps higher than everyone at age 35, "normally" thats not really easy to achieve, most of the time players age badly.

Haland maybe a good even great player for the next few years but as soon as he reaches to a huge team like Bayern on their nation or Madird/Barcelona or even Liverpool I don' know, a team that plays for champions league title, he will realize he is not a good role player at all.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on January 02, 2020, 01:53:18 AM

But one thing that is very sure about haaland move to Dortmund... in the next two years or three, he'll signed for Bayern munich with crazy amount of money involved..

Looking at the way Bayern Munich have bought players from their rival Dortmund in the past, then I wouldn't be ruling this one out from happening, though if Dortmund are smart enough, they'll stop selling their star players to their rivals, how can they compete if they keep doing that.

However the cause of Haalands decision to move to Bourussia Dortmund is, the fact remains that he is now officially their player, and I just hope all the hype/media attention surrounding him wouldn't affect him, the boy has got some talent, so let's get over the transfer/dad/agent fee and see how quickly he'll adapt in Germany and how well his game will improve at Dortmund.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on January 02, 2020, 01:53:18 AM

Quote from: joniboini on January 01, 2020, 12:12:23 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on December 30, 2019, 04:37:09 AM

Dortmund might well known produced a star from just a young lad but really? Is he choose Dortmund because of that? Plus a 130k euro salary oh yeah that's makes sense lol.
Despite he was managed by ole at molde two years ago , looks like it's doesn't guarantee anything, they are lost haaland now.

Some reports suggest because his agent and his father demands additional money for his transfer, which is rejected by United and Juventus. IIRC around 10 mil euro or so for each of them. IIRC Dortmund buys him for 20 million, with an extra 10 + 10, they spend around 40 million probably.

Other than speculation, one of the obvious reasons is probably that United is not as good as before and Juve playstyle probably doesn't suit him.

So you mean the club allow him to leave in discounted price from 45m of market value to only 20m so his father and the agent gets 10m each? Make it straight sorry , I don't get it how it could happened Huh

But one thing that is very sure about haaland move to Dortmund... in the next two years or three, he'll signed for Bayern munich with crazy amount of money involved, this could be a business contract between Salzburg and Dortmund.

@EdenHazard let me explain this to you Halland had a release clause of €20 millions which was about to be activated once the January transfer window began, and his agent wanted huge amounts from Manchester United because he knew Ole was desperate to get Halland.

However Manchester United walked away from the deal and his only remaining option was Dortmund, who agreed to pay those huge amounts demanded by Hallands agent. Now I know you’ll yet not be convinced so look at Pogbas transfer from Juventus to Manchester United, it took place only because of the money he made.

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https://bulinews.com/news/4032/report-erling-braut-haaland-could-leave-salzburg-for-20-million-january

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/agent-to-make-41-million-from-pogba-move-to-united-500jbs8md

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Quote from: joniboini on January 01, 2020, 12:12:23 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on December 30, 2019, 04:37:09 AM

Dortmund might well known produced a star from just a young lad but really? Is he choose Dortmund because of that? Plus a 130k euro salary oh yeah that's makes sense lol.
Despite he was managed by ole at molde two years ago , looks like it's doesn't guarantee anything, they are lost haaland now.

Some reports suggest because his agent and his father demands additional money for his transfer, which is rejected by United and Juventus. IIRC around 10 mil euro or so for each of them. IIRC Dortmund buys him for 20 million, with an extra 10 + 10, they spend around 40 million probably.

Other than speculation, one of the obvious reasons is probably that United is not as good as before and Juve playstyle probably doesn't suit him.

So you mean the club allow him to leave in discounted price from 45m of market value to only 20m so his father and the agent gets 10m each? Make it straight sorry , I don't get it how it could happened Huh

But one thing that is very sure about haaland move to Dortmund... in the next two years or three, he'll signed for Bayern munich with crazy amount of money involved, this could be a business contract between Salzburg and Dortmund.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on January 01, 2020, 05:28:13 AM

I think that it is undoubted that joining United would be the worst choice he might have done, so it was wise to reject them.
Juventus is a good team and I think that his play style isn't so different from the Italian's team one... It might be all about money and trying to find a team that would give him another option to move to a top club such as Real or Barca.

With how hyped United was, I was in fact surprised to see him signed a new deal with Dortmund. Especially because of Ole and Haaland's relationship.

I don't really know how Juve plays, so I won't comment on that one. Didn't watch Serie A since long ago.

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Quote from: joniboini on January 01, 2020, 12:12:23 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on December 30, 2019, 04:37:09 AM

Dortmund might well known produced a star from just a young lad but really? Is he choose Dortmund because of that? Plus a 130k euro salary oh yeah that's makes sense lol.
Despite he was managed by ole at molde two years ago , looks like it's doesn't guarantee anything, they are lost haaland now.

Some reports suggest because his agent and his father demands additional money for his transfer, which is rejected by United and Juventus. IIRC around 10 mil euro or so for each of them. IIRC Dortmund buys him for 20 million, with an extra 10 + 10, they spend around 40 million probably.

Other than speculation, one of the obvious reasons is probably that United is not as good as before and Juve playstyle probably doesn't suit him.

I think that it is undoubted that joining United would be the worst choice he might have done, so it was wise to reject them.
Juventus is a good team and I think that his play style isn't so different from the Italian's team one... It might be all about money and trying to find a team that would give him another option to move to a top club such as Real or Barca.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on December 30, 2019, 04:37:09 AM

Dortmund might well known produced a star from just a young lad but really? Is he choose Dortmund because of that? Plus a 130k euro salary oh yeah that's makes sense lol.
Despite he was managed by ole at molde two years ago , looks like it's doesn't guarantee anything, they are lost haaland now.

Some reports suggest because his agent and his father demands additional money for his transfer, which is rejected by United and Juventus. IIRC around 10 mil euro or so for each of them. IIRC Dortmund buys him for 20 million, with an extra 10 + 10, they spend around 40 million probably.

Other than speculation, one of the obvious reasons is probably that United is not as good as before and Juve playstyle probably doesn't suit him.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on December 30, 2019, 06:02:12 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on December 30, 2019, 04:37:09 AM

Quote from: joniboini on December 30, 2019, 01:11:20 AM

So, with the arrival of Haaland in Dortmund, anybody thinks they can finish in 2nd or 3rd?

He's a great finisher but he need somebody that could deliver a killer through pass like Minamino. His movement between the lines is great.

First of all , can we discuss about why haaland choose Dortmund over Manchester United or Juventus?

Dortmund might well known produced a star from just a young lad but really? Is he choose Dortmund because of that? Plus a 130k euro salary oh yeah that's makes sense lol.
Despite he was managed by ole at molde two years ago , looks like it's doesn't guarantee anything, they are lost haaland now.

So it is really true that he is going to join Dortmund?
Last week, I read in the news that he has signed for Juventus and now Dortmund confirms that he joins Westfalen... I don't know what would be the reason to reject Juventus over Borrusia. Maybe he likes the German football more.

Like he had indeed officially moved to Borussia Dortmund because maybe they like German football so they prefer to stop there.
Means about the news haaland who have signed a contract with Juventus only rumors.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on December 26, 2019, 02:28:27 AM

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Leipzig is favorite to win the league this season, I don't think Monchegladbach will have a chance of winning it, in my opinion the league is between Leipzig and Bayern Munich, Dortmund do loose lots of points during the end of the season

Leipzig create a sensation in the 2019/2020 season half, they are half-season champions. I look forward to the surprises that will occur in 2020, whether Leipzig will continue to survive or Bayern Munich take over!!

Monchengladbach took everyone by surprise but I think their exertions in the Europa League has paid them dearly,,, Munich will find their form and then reclaim what is theirs.

Super smart move with Haaland on Dortmund though. I thought he would go to England but he has a good manager who advised him to take the best possible move. Can he help BVB finally make it through the season as contenders? Consistency has been their problem.

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