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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on February 18, 2024, 03:13:08 PM

At this stage, I've lost hope in Bayern Munich's chances of winning this season's Bundesliga trophy. Their current string of poor performances indicates they're unlikely to succeed. It's disheartening to see a team once contending for the Bundesliga title now struggling, especially after losing two consecutive games. Meanwhile, their opponents seem to be consistently achieving victories, widening the gap between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen to 8 points. Given Bayern Munich's recent struggles, it's questionable whether they'll even qualify for the next stage of the Champions League.Additionally, the increasing number of red cards the team is receiving raises concerns about discipline and cohesion within the squad. It's disappointing to witness such a decline in performance from a team with such high expectations.

I think with what is happening now, in terms of probability, it looks like Bayern will still be very troubled in pursuing and trying to compete with Leverkusen in the race for the trophy in the Bundesliga but when saying Bayern's hopes are over I think it's still too soon to be able to conclude now.
But with the defeat that Bayern suffered again this week, it actually makes the situation more complicated for now.
Currently Bayern are 8 points behind Leverkusen even though there are still 12 matches in the rest of the season but still things like this are sometimes not a guarantee.

What I want to know now is what steps the current management will take against Tuchel because by looking at his current performance, honestly I think there should have been quite decisive action just like Bayern did to Nagelsmann last season.

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Quote from: hahay on February 18, 2024, 03:58:06 PM

Everything has become clear now, that Bayern Munich's dominance will end this season, and the Bundesliga will have a new team to win trophies this season and clearly that team is Bayer Leverkusen who have been very impressive and extraordinary this season with the new records they have set too. To be honest, Bayern Munich's defeat by Bochum was a surprise result because anyway, I thought Bayern Munich would vent about the previous two defeats, and recover by beating Bochum. But what happened was, Bayern Munich became increasingly depressed because perhaps of the great pressure they were under at the moment, so they were unable to recover and what happened was that the results got worse.

Bochum really surprised us because they are one of the teams that often concedes a lot of goals when facing Bayern munich but in today match Bochum managed to win the match against Bayern munich and also taught Bayern munich a valuable lesson not to underestimate them. With this victory, Bochum managed to climb up to 11th in the standings and their position is getting better because they have managed to move away from the relegation zone.

From Bayern Munich side, this defeat means they failed to get close to Leverkusen in the standings because this week Leverkusen is 8 points ahead of Bayern Munich who are in second place. As you said, it might be true that Bayern Munich dominance will be broken by Leverkusen this season. Bayern munich are starting to lose their form because unexpectedly they have lost 3 times, 1 match in the Champions League and two more matches in the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on February 18, 2024, 04:14:26 PM

The interesting thing is that I used to think Bayer Leverkusen was centered on Victor Boniface to deliver the goals but I was totally wrong. They beat Bayern Munich + Leipzig and Sturggart comfortably without his services.

Xabi has a complete squad which is nit dependent on any individual player, they have quality everywhere in players like Florian Wirtz, Grimaldo etc, but most importantly, they function as a unit to get the job done.

Quote from: nelson4lov on February 18, 2024, 04:14:26 PM

Dortmund are the ultimate bottlers and for once, I'm sincerely happy that Bayer Munich dominance is coming to an end. And also the fact that Bayer Leverkusen has been one of the best teams to place bets on this season. Consistent returns throughout.

I feel slightly bad for Harry Kane. I cannot stand Spurs but it sucks that after sacrificing the EPL top scorer of all time record, he still has to wait for his first ever title.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on February 18, 2024, 03:52:27 PM

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How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

I count 22 Bundesliga matches for the 2023/2024 Bundesliga season and Bayer Leverkusen has been unbeaten in almost all of them (4 draws recorded so far).

Today, I had the ML bet on Bayern when they were 1 goal down (scoreline was 2-1)and I really thought they'd equalize and win the game since the odds looked attractive compared to pre-match. What happened? Upamecano delivered another red card again and put his team at a disadvantage. It's beginning to look very bad for Tuchel because he has to win the next game. If Bayern lose at home in the UCL to Lazio, Tuchel will come under extreme scrutiny and possibly lose his job.

All of Bayern Munich's current downturn started after losing to Leverkusen, they had difficulty recovering from the defeat to Lazio and now they are Bochum whose player quality is clearly far from Bayern Munich. This defeat further ensures that the Bundesliga title belongs to Leverkusen because with a difference of 8 points it seems very difficult for Bayern Munich to catch up.

I think this is all Tuchel's fault. He is constantly making the team worse, if this continues, Tuchel's days will soon be over at Byaern Munich. The reason is that his tactics were very bad, especially against Bochum, who couldn't anticipate the speed of Bochum's defensive transitions. If you look at Bayern's attack, there are at least 6 to 8 players in defense, while Bayern Munich has 2 to 5 defenders. After Upamecano was sent off, the attackers became active in defense. So his performance got worse and worse, making Bayern Munich fail to get full points in this match.

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Bayern seem to be in real trouble... If they lose today, Tuchel will definitely have problems with the further training of the team... They need to score at least two goals in the second half and not concede in order to win... Judging by the first half it will be difficult to do that...

I think things will really not go well with him if the game should in this score and they lose finally, I doubt if they can score two goals again because the home has rested enough and they have been motivated again by their coach following the interruption they encountered in the game as a result of crowd disturbance, Bayern Munich can only score one goal here and that will see the current league leaders extend the gap to 7 points but if they eventually lose rhe game then Leverkusen will be 8 points ahead of Bayern Munich.

At this stage, I've lost hope in Bayern Munich's chances of winning this season's Bundesliga trophy. Their current string of poor performances indicates they're unlikely to succeed. It's disheartening to see a team once contending for the Bundesliga title now struggling, especially after losing two consecutive games. Meanwhile, their opponents seem to be consistently achieving victories, widening the gap between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen to 8 points. Given Bayern Munich's recent struggles, it's questionable whether they'll even qualify for the next stage of the Champions League.Additionally, the increasing number of red cards the team is receiving raises concerns about discipline and cohesion within the squad. It's disappointing to witness such a decline in performance from a team with such high expectations.

actually when bayern munchen meet leverkusen and lost the bundesliga title race was over. bayern munchen has been difficult to compete with leverkusen for the championship. in addition to this opponent bochum even lost. because leverkusen has been consistently difficult to slip or lose in matches in the bundesliga.

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Quote from: un_rank on February 18, 2024, 04:05:29 PM

Quote from: nelson4lov on February 18, 2024, 03:52:27 PM

I count 22 Bundesliga matches for the 2023/2024 Bundesliga season and Bayer Leverkusen has been unbeaten in almost all of them (4 draws recorded so far).

They have been unbeaten in ALL of them. 4 draws and 0 defeats.

Bayern Munich have not been on the best run of form, but Bayer have been outstanding all season, just outstanding. In Bayern's best form, they push this team hard but I still see Lerverkusen winning it in that scenario; with this current Bayern side, Leverkusen definitely win it.

I have heard references to Dortmund last seasona nd how they almost won it, but I really see no similarities between both sides. Xabi Alonos has created a monster team.

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The interesting thing is that I used to think Bayer Leverkusen was centered on Victor Boniface to deliver the goals but I was totally wrong. They beat Bayern Munich + Leipzig and Sturggart comfortably without his services. Given how good Xabi's team has been this season, I'm beginning to think that they would give Liverpool serious run for their money if they happen to get placed together.

Dortmund are the ultimate bottlers and for once, I'm sincerely happy that Bayer Munich dominance is coming to an end. And also the fact that Bayer Leverkusen has been one of the best teams to place bets on this season. Consistent returns throughout.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on February 18, 2024, 03:52:27 PM

I count 22 Bundesliga matches for the 2023/2024 Bundesliga season and Bayer Leverkusen has been unbeaten in almost all of them (4 draws recorded so far).

They have been unbeaten in ALL of them. 4 draws and 0 defeats.

Bayern Munich have not been on the best run of form, but Bayer have been outstanding all season, just outstanding. In Bayern's best form, they push this team hard but I still see Lerverkusen winning it in that scenario; with this current Bayern side, Leverkusen definitely win it.

I have heard references to Dortmund last seasona nd how they almost won it, but I really see no similarities between both sides. Xabi Alonos has created a monster team.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 18, 2024, 03:27:56 PM

Bochum beat Bayern München, which means it's the end of the road for Bayern München. They are now far away from the championship. Bayer Leverkusen increased its point difference to 8 points. With 12 matches remaining, the point difference is over 2 matches and Leverkusen remains undefeated. Bayern München's years-long streak is about to end. All praise goes to Xabi Alonso.How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

It just keeps getting worse for FC Bayern Munich and Thomas Tuchel. From my personal view, it just can wait to see another team lift the Bundesliga trophy, especially a team like Bayer Leverkusen. For so long, Bayern Munich have monopolized the Bundesliga while at the same time killing off their top opponents by buying up their key players.
This made the league so boring where one could predict who was going to lift the trophy at the end of the season even just after 5 matches.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on February 18, 2024, 03:52:27 PM

Quote from: LGD2Business on February 18, 2024, 03:27:56 PM

How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

I count 22 Bundesliga matches for the 2023/2024 Bundesliga season and Bayer Leverkusen has been unbeaten in almost all of them (4 draws recorded so far).
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The most interesting thing is that they have no defeats at all this season in all tournaments: 6 wins in the Europa League + 4 wins in the German Cup. If I remember correctly, they had one (or two?) matches left to break the eternal (as it seemed) Bavaria record. Their next 2 games will be with Mainz and Koln, I don’t think that these teams are capable of beating such Bayer.

I can assume that the title quotes should now be somewhere around 1.2 for Bayer and 5.5 for Bayern?

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 18, 2024, 03:27:56 PM

Quote from: baeva on February 18, 2024, 03:18:31 PM

With Bayer about to set the record for the unbeaten streak, I think we can already start predicting who will win the league, and so far the scales are tipping in Bayern's favour. The fact that they have lost three matches in a row says a lot, apparently the championship series is coming to an end, as sad as it may sound

Upamecano received a red card again. He received a direct red card in the Champions League match against Lazio, and in this match, he received a red card from a double yellow and left his teammates alone. It looks like he will be suspended for a long time.
Bochum beat Bayern München, which means it's the end of the road for Bayern München. They are now far away from the championship. Bayer Leverkusen increased its point difference to 8 points. With 12 matches remaining, the point difference is over 2 matches and Leverkusen remains undefeated. Bayern München's years-long streak is about to end. All praise goes to Xabi Alonso. How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

Dayot Upamecano received a red card for the second consecutive match for his team Bayern Munich when he was sent off today at Bochum and for a defender with his kind of experience, I expected more from him. Bayern Munich third defeat in their last three games is definitely their worst run of form since Thomas Tuchel took over the managerial position at the club and just like I said earlier on this thread, the German manager might just be shown the exit door from the club anytime soon.

Bayer Leverkusen are currently leading the German Bundesliga table with eight points and are still unbeaten in the league as well so I think it's almost impossible to stop them from winning the German league title at the end of the season of they can continue with their current form

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 18, 2024, 03:27:56 PM

Quote from: baeva on February 18, 2024, 03:18:31 PM

With Bayer about to set the record for the unbeaten streak, I think we can already start predicting who will win the league, and so far the scales are tipping in Bayern's favour. The fact that they have lost three matches in a row says a lot, apparently the championship series is coming to an end, as sad as it may sound

Upamecano received a red card again. He received a direct red card in the Champions League match against Lazio, and in this match, he received a red card from a double yellow and left his teammates alone. It looks like he will be suspended for a long time.
Bochum beat Bayern München, which means it's the end of the road for Bayern München. They are now far away from the championship. Bayer Leverkusen increased its point difference to 8 points. With 12 matches remaining, the point difference is over 2 matches and Leverkusen remains undefeated. Bayern München's years-long streak is about to end. All praise goes to Xabi Alonso. How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

Everything has become clear now, that Bayern Munich's dominance will end this season, and the Bundesliga will have a new team to win trophies this season and clearly that team is Bayer Leverkusen who have been very impressive and extraordinary this season with the new records they have set too. To be honest, Bayern Munich's defeat by Bochum was a surprise result because anyway, I thought Bayern Munich would vent about the previous two defeats, and recover by beating Bochum. But what happened was, Bayern Munich became increasingly depressed because perhaps of the great pressure they were under at the moment, so they were unable to recover and what happened was that the results got worse.

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Quote from: baeva on February 18, 2024, 03:18:31 PM

With Bayer about to set the record for the unbeaten streak, I think we can already start predicting who will win the league, and so far the scales are tipping in Bayern's favour. The fact that they have lost three matches in a row says a lot, apparently the championship series is coming to an end, as sad as it may sound

After Leverkusen managed to beat Bayern Munich, their chances of winning the Bundesliga trophy increased drastically. Now Leverkusen leads the standings with a difference of 5 points from Bayern Munich, the remaining Bundesliga matches are 12 more matches, it is possible that Leverkusen unbeaten record will continue for a full season. If the scenario goes according to predictions, it would be very interesting to see the Bundesliga have a new champion, after Bayern Munich dominated it for more than a decade, and the way Leverkusen broke that dominance was very impressive.

So far Thomas Tuchel squad has experienced 2 defeats and 4 draws. This indeed indicates that they are in unstable performance to defend the championship trophy this season, and their biggest challenge ahead in trying to overtake Leverkusen is still quite difficult. On the other hand, for Leverkusen their toughest challenge in the future is facing Dortmund, that is the final test of their consistency in maintaining their unbeaten record, if they manage to beat Dortmund or play a draw then it could be said that Leverkusen will become champions this season.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 18, 2024, 03:27:56 PM

How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

I count 22 Bundesliga matches for the 2023/2024 Bundesliga season and Bayer Leverkusen has been unbeaten in almost all of them (4 draws recorded so far).

Today, I had the ML bet on Bayern when they were 1 goal down (scoreline was 2-1)and I really thought they'd equalize and win the game since the odds looked attractive compared to pre-match. What happened? Upamecano delivered another red card again and put his team at a disadvantage. It's beginning to look very bad for Tuchel because he has to win the next game. If Bayern lose at home in the UCL to Lazio, Tuchel will come under extreme scrutiny and possibly lose his job.

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Quote from: 3meek on February 18, 2024, 12:37:11 PM

Bayern seem to be in real trouble... If they lose today, Tuchel will definitely have problems with the further training of the team... They need to score at least two goals in the second half and not concede in order to win... Judging by the first half it will be difficult to do that...

Unexpectedly, Bayern Munich actually experienced ups and downs. in the 3 matches they played, one in the Champions League, there was not a single positive result for Thomas Thucel's squad. the match against Bochum, they should have won. but what happened was the opposite. with the absence of several players, Bayern seems to have lost its strength. In this match, Thomas Thucel's team had to lose for the third time in a row. even though Bayern Munich actually controls ball possession, total shots, technique, the fact is that this alone is not enough. in the end, Bayern collapsed at the home of their rival team Bochum. this defeat was a major blow for Bayern, and was what Leverkusen had been hoping for. thus, at least for now Leverkusen is in the safe zone with a lead of 8 points. well, the situation certainly won't be pleasant for Bayern Munich. whose dominance has the potential to be broken by rival teams. In fact, Leverkusen was not initially favored to be at the top of the Bundesliga standings. I doubt Thucel's position will be safe with Bayern Munich. even if, for example, Thuchel was able to reverse the situation. however, it is very likely that the club management will consider and look for an ideal replacement.

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Quote from: baeva on February 18, 2024, 03:18:31 PM

With Bayer about to set the record for the unbeaten streak, I think we can already start predicting who will win the league, and so far the scales are tipping in Bayern's favour. The fact that they have lost three matches in a row says a lot, apparently the championship series is coming to an end, as sad as it may sound

Upamecano received a red card again. He received a direct red card in the Champions League match against Lazio, and in this match, he received a red card from a double yellow and left his teammates alone. It looks like he will be suspended for a long time.
Bochum beat Bayern München, which means it's the end of the road for Bayern München. They are now far away from the championship. Bayer Leverkusen increased its point difference to 8 points. With 12 matches remaining, the point difference is over 2 matches and Leverkusen remains undefeated. Bayern München's years-long streak is about to end. All praise goes to Xabi Alonso. How many matches have they been undefeated, it's been a crazy season for them.

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Bayern seem to be in real trouble... If they lose today, Tuchel will definitely have problems with the further training of the team... They need to score at least two goals in the second half and not concede in order to win... Judging by the first half it will be difficult to do that...

The match is over and Bayern Munich lost again and they have now lost three games in a row which is very bad for the defending champions. They are currently 8 points behind the league leaders Bayern Leverkusen who are showing no signs of slowing down, i know it’s too early to predict who would win the league but with the way Bayern Munich is performing they don’t look like they can stop Leverkusen from winning the league.

Tuchel started well but it now looks as if he is no more in control of the team, we don’t know what the problem is they started well but they now seem to have lost focus. If care is not taken the management may end up sacking tuchel for this disaster.

With Bayer about to set the record for the unbeaten streak, I think we can already start predicting who will win the league, and so far the scales are tipping in Bayern's favour. The fact that they have lost three matches in a row says a lot, apparently the championship series is coming to an end, as sad as it may sound

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Making these grand changes on the team just because of a few bad games doesn't make sense to me. If Bayern won, they would be ahead now, they can still beat Lazio on the second leg, so that's not even important. Meaning they had just one bad game, the one against Leverkusen, if they won that then all would be fine.

This type of grand change decisions are never good for a team, they could very well sell those players but what happens afterwards? Maybe they would get even worse? Who can guarantee that the players they sold will bring in good enough money to get them even better players? What if the new players that comes to the team end up being terrible? Look at what happened with Mane, they wanted him so much, and couldn't wait to get rid of him at the end.

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Bayern seem to be in real trouble... If they lose today, Tuchel will definitely have problems with the further training of the team... They need to score at least two goals in the second half and not concede in order to win... Judging by the first half it will be difficult to do that...

I think things will really not go well with him if the game should in this score and they lose finally, I doubt if they can score two goals again because the home has rested enough and they have been motivated again by their coach following the interruption they encountered in the game as a result of crowd disturbance, Bayern Munich can only score one goal here and that will see the current league leaders extend the gap to 7 points but if they eventually lose rhe game then Leverkusen will be 8 points ahead of Bayern Munich.

At this stage, I've lost hope in Bayern Munich's chances of winning this season's Bundesliga trophy. Their current string of poor performances indicates they're unlikely to succeed. It's disheartening to see a team once contending for the Bundesliga title now struggling, especially after losing two consecutive games. Meanwhile, their opponents seem to be consistently achieving victories, widening the gap between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen to 8 points. Given Bayern Munich's recent struggles, it's questionable whether they'll even qualify for the next stage of the Champions League.Additionally, the increasing number of red cards the team is receiving raises concerns about discipline and cohesion within the squad. It's disappointing to witness such a decline in performance from a team with such high expectations.

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Quote from: 3meek on February 18, 2024, 12:37:11 PM

Bayern seem to be in real trouble... If they lose today, Tuchel will definitely have problems with the further training of the team... They need to score at least two goals in the second half and not concede in order to win... Judging by the first half it will be difficult to do that...

Yes, they have big problems now, or coach Thomas Tuchel will be the first to feel them. They lost 3 games in a row, 2x in the league and 1x in the champions league. Now they lost the game against bochum 3:2, thats embarrassing and i can imagine that bayern can also lose against darmstadt at the moment. Today they shot 27 times on the goal of bochum and only scored 2 goals, so bad. The odds on bochum and victory were probably x9. On february 24th they have to play against leipzig and as it currently looks, mybe we can also bet on leipzig.

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I think so too. And to be honest, I don’t understand how it can be possible to even talk about hiring someone in Bavaria “for a short term”. If we are talking about a qualified specialist, then firstly he needs a normal contract and time to make his impact. None of the top specialists (the top Bayern club needs a top specialist) will agree to be a temporary option. Now further: if we are talking about an insufficiently qualified specialist, then why hire him at all? Bavaria is not God knows what, but a serious business, such decisions are unacceptable here.

Actually they have done that before in the past.
Bringing back an former successful coach to fill the gap until the next season, also hopefully achieving goals while doing so and then prepare and search for a new coach for the upcoming season.

They did that with Jupp Heynckes for example in the 17-18 season. They hired him for the remainder of the season after firing Ancelotti. They even wanted to keep him but he preferred to retire finally.

So this idea is definitely not a new or even odd one.

Jupp Heynckes is absolutely not the case. As you correctly noted, he retired, if I remember correctly, he was already around 70 years old and simply due to his age, he could no longer live such an intense life. If not for his age, Bayern would not have hired this idiot (Guardiola) and might have had a couple more trebles in their collection.

Meanwhile, Bayern's disaster continues and after the defeat to Bochum they are already 8 points behind Bayer. I'm afraid to go into news feeds (there is a high probability of getting stuck in a stream of memes) Grin

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