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Wow! Thank you for reminding that.
I have never really thought about it.
Perhaps many of us did not.
We are thinking more of how to survive but yet we are forgetting what will come next.
Yeah, they might really do that.
Increase the tax to recover faster. This will happen mostly to countries which are in top. To keep up with that ranking.
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Economic crisis all over the world is going to happen in 2020 and mostly it will be visible by September.
Taxes and other kinds of measures are going to be taken. As a result, the income of people is going to decrease and this is going to bring poverty again - same as it happened in 2009 when Leamann Brothers fall.
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The government has no choice but to spend, we are just happy now that we receive some allowance from them but we did not realize that it will be taken unto us slowly, it's correct, they'll get it from our taxes and that's the sad reality.
The government does not have any option but to spend right now, no one from their citizen are working to pay for taxes ( for countries that is under a lockdown) and we as the citizen deserved to receive help from the government during times like this coz that is their duty, money can be earned again but the lives of many is more important right now. Products prices soon is expected to increase as we need to recover from our loss as soon as possible so we can start the normal life again.



For me, I think these taxes are the material for the economy of a country to retrieve all of its losses due to the damage this covid-19 brought to us. Citizens are required to pay taxes higher than before because of the governments support to them. Government that are responsible enough in helping its people during the pandemic should focus on sectors like agricultural so that they can have more supplies in stock market.

The important thing right now is to become safe and far from the virus because it is much more expensive if you're admitted in to the hospital so as much as possible, keep away from the virus and focus on the taxes that you need to pay after the quarantine had lifted up. Everything will go back to normal soon when we are all in the process of recovery.

No one is expecting this to happen so we just need to face the reality that this pandemic is existing in our time. Just continue to live and take care of the people that surrounds you everyday.
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eventually you're right, but in the next 1-2 years i think governments will be primarily concerned about getting economic growth back on track. they won't want to hamper that growth with tax hikes.

the push to austerity will vary from country to country. the USA can print a few trillion dollars without anyone caring, hence the stark difference between american and european stimulus packages. high debt-to-GDP countries like greece, italy, and portugal are more urgent concerns.

then again, the november election could shake things up. if democrats take control of the senate and/or presidency, i could see them repealing trump's $1.5 trillion tax cut passed a couple years ago.


Probably, yes. After this pandemic, they will recover from its losses due to the covid-19 and they will surely make the taxes higher because of the huge budget that they've spent. People are really vulnerable especially those who don't have a budget for more than a month of quarantine because work are also suspended. The economy of the countries really dropped as soon as this pandemic is spreading in every part of the country, maybe because of the stock market that is really necessary to proceed. Don't tell me that some other countries are controlling their economy without any damaged, only China can do that and it is suspicious how they manipulated and maintain their economy when the covid-19 really originated from them.

I agree with you about the virus originating from China. and I believe they will pay for their cruelty. European countries are looking for evidence to accuse China and if this works, I believe China will soon collapse and things will get worse for the economy in Asia. This political battle will remain fierce for a long time and we should prepare for the worst. Not only will taxes be higher, we may have to prepare for WW3.
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We see it everywhere. To counter that coronavirus disaster, governments are spending money like there's no tomorrow. Budget's deficit will rise to new heights, never seen before except during war times. In US and EU, debts are staggering. The Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank are printing money faster that I'm writing it. If you ask what's next, I'm afraid there's only one answer.

In most countries, governments will have no other choice but to raise taxes. They will have to be smart to avoid killing the economy, but they will need to bring more money to balance their budget (or more likely to reduce their operating deficit).

As I haven't paid any income tax since 1997, that's all right with me, but I urge all fellow Bitcoiners to organize themselves, and to plan ahead to avoid the worst...

Or could I be wrong? There will be no more taxes next year?

eventually you're right, but in the next 1-2 years i think governments will be primarily concerned about getting economic growth back on track. they won't want to hamper that growth with tax hikes.

the push to austerity will vary from country to country. the USA can print a few trillion dollars without anyone caring, hence the stark difference between american and european stimulus packages. high debt-to-GDP countries like greece, italy, and portugal are more urgent concerns.

then again, the november election could shake things up. if democrats take control of the senate and/or presidency, i could see them repealing trump's $1.5 trillion tax cut passed a couple years ago.

Probably, yes. After this pandemic, they will recover from its losses due to the covid-19 and they will surely make the taxes higher because of the huge budget that they've spent. People are really vulnerable especially those who don't have a budget for more than a month of quarantine because work are also suspended. The economy of the countries really dropped as soon as this pandemic is spreading in every part of the country, maybe because of the stock market that is really necessary to proceed. Don't tell me that some other countries are controlling their economy without any damaged, only China can do that and it is suspicious how they manipulated and maintain their economy when the covid-19 really originated from them.
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Yes, in this global crisis, the level of the economy will slide back a few years. Very difficult times may lie ahead. States will raise taxes to survive, and as a result, businesses will raise prices for their products and services. We need to find new ways to earn money and optimize our expenses.
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Due to this epidemic, the financial condition of all people is very bad You're right no one wants to pay taxes once the virus is gone How can people pay taxes to the government if they do not have enough income? It is up to the government to find a way to cure it. Taxes must be waived by everyone Also many do not have enough capital to save BTC in case they are suffering financially from all sides No one is ready to pay taxes in this situation.
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after the lockdown, the government wants to raise taxes? Well, that was suicide. however, some people have no income since the lockdown, or influence of COVID-19. many people are out and do not have jobs because of it. the government even urged to remain at home. I'm not really sure that they will raise taxes. however, just in case, I don't have much cash right now.
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Thats possible, they need to raise the taxes for business, employed people and overseas worker etc. In fact even now that the virus is still existing they already make a move by increasing the yearly philheath contribution (its a health insurance) of overseas worker and its compulsory, if you didnt abide then you cant go to other country to work unless you settle the payment together with the interest.

So instead of we can smoothly go back to our normal lives, another burden is coming because the government will increase the tax to restore their financial stability.
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Many people don't realize that after the corona virus crisis ends there will be another disaster waiting. Almost all countries print money,
and its effects will be felt after the crisis is over. The government will definitely raise taxes, because it's the fastest solution to make
the economy stable again.Therefore it is better from now that we collect bitcoin or move all our wealth into bitcoin. Because only bitcoin
which is not taxed.
Reducing army spending can cover all the damage caused by the coronavirus disasters, but no one will do it!
Some countries who don't produce oil are profiting from its low price and the reduce of its consumption due to confinement, but they will keep the profits aside...
I am not an economic guy but rich and businessmen are getting richer while normal citizens are sinking. Taxes may rise but for sure everything will be paid by the hardworking gentlemen... BTC can be an option to avoid some harassment but people will rarely move an important part of their savings there...
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Many people don't realize that after the corona virus crisis ends there will be another disaster waiting. Almost all countries print money,
and its effects will be felt after the crisis is over. The government will definitely raise taxes, because it's the fastest solution to make
the economy stable again.Therefore it is better from now that we collect bitcoin or move all our wealth into bitcoin. Because only bitcoin
which is not taxed.
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In most countries, governments will have no other choice but to raise taxes. They will have to be smart to avoid killing the economy, but they will need to bring more money to balance their budget (or more likely to reduce their operating deficit).
I still didn't read the information from any media (television, newspapers, or an article) stated that will be higher taxes in my country. I don't think it is a good idea by rising taxes after many people lost their jobs because of the Covid-19 outbreak. How they can pay for higher taxes while they even have no jobs? Only a government with no heart that applies this way, then surely will be a massive demonstration by the citizen.
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you havent paid tax since a long time ago  ? how come its possible ? or maybe your just a small time person that doesnt have a huge house or business , etc something like that  . anyway i think there will be no taxes to be payed yet or it will be lesser now that we are still in a bad condition . i think they will understand that themselves but sure they can double it soon as long as we are now on recovery and people are also going to understand it   . but why suggest saving btc  ?  i think by using btc we are still obligated for taxes

It's not that hard. I haven't paid any income tax for years. I simply conduct all business in cash and had enough profit from my Bitcoin investments to make me not worry about legal employment ever again. I'va also been employed without any legal agreements for years and have done pretty well doing it. I'm not saying that you should do it, but that's how it used to be done for centuries. When somebody wanted a job to be done they'd come to a vebal agreement with a contractor and you can guess the rest. It's today that you're forced to sign contracts and pay taxes on whatever you were paid. It doesn't mean that this is the only way to live.

Lucky you!
I haven't find anyone willing to pay me cash or with BTC. I'm always paid with bank wires, so I had to be imaginative to avoid tax. I pay property tax and consumption tax everywhere, that's more than enough. Governments on a diet can only get better.

I hope the coronavirus will lead to a strict diet for all governments, but I know that won't happen. They'll keep on spending like crazy, and that will lead to more tax someday.


They are the most corrupt if people would only know.
What they are spending is not their money, so they can spend it like crazy on projects or whatever it is but they always get a cut on it.
Though most of the time they look clean but they know how the play the game and we are the one who will pay for what they are doing.

Keeping Bitcoin is a great strategy for the future as fiat will just continue to inflate.
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you havent paid tax since a long time ago  ? how come its possible ? or maybe your just a small time person that doesnt have a huge house or business , etc something like that  . anyway i think there will be no taxes to be payed yet or it will be lesser now that we are still in a bad condition . i think they will understand that themselves but sure they can double it soon as long as we are now on recovery and people are also going to understand it   . but why suggest saving btc  ?  i think by using btc we are still obligated for taxes

It's not that hard. I haven't paid any income tax for years. I simply conduct all business in cash and had enough profit from my Bitcoin investments to make me not worry about legal employment ever again. I'va also been employed without any legal agreements for years and have done pretty well doing it. I'm not saying that you should do it, but that's how it used to be done for centuries. When somebody wanted a job to be done they'd come to a vebal agreement with a contractor and you can guess the rest. It's today that you're forced to sign contracts and pay taxes on whatever you were paid. It doesn't mean that this is the only way to live.

Lucky you!
I haven't find anyone willing to pay me cash or with BTC. I'm always paid with bank wires, so I had to be imaginative to avoid tax. I pay property tax and consumption tax everywhere, that's more than enough. Governments on a diet can only get better.

I hope the coronavirus will lead to a strict diet for all governments, but I know that won't happen. They'll keep on spending like crazy, and that will lead to more tax someday.
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I quite admire your self-awareness and the spirit of contributing to the community.  But my point is that the government doesn't need that.  I have always had negative thoughts about the state apparatus, where there are always those who corrupt our charity.  So I think we should have other plans to support the economy.  Why don't we buy food and distribute it to those in need?  That would be great gesture and make them feel happy day in and day out.  That would be the most meaningful action now.
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You should worry about more taxes on cryptocurrency if you use cryptos for taxable events (trading cryptocurrency to fiat, or crypto to crypto, using cryptocurrency for goods and services, earning cryptocurrency as income). But crytptocurrency transfer and buying crypto with USD aren't considered as taxable events.
It depends on the country you are living if your country considers crypto as an asset then you may be supposed to pay taxes even for holding bitcoin.
yeah it really does depend on the country, some countries are harsh with cryptocurrency to the point that they are trying to centralized the exchanges that is running under the government to impose for more taxes that hurt the users. So far with my country, it is very open to the idea of digitalization such as digital payments and cryptocurrency, however there are still some bad imaging that is circling around the use of crypto to scam gateways.

Some countries consider it as an asset you you need to pay taxes for your capital gains and some other countries asking corporate taxes for the profits you made while holding cryptos.
Countries in Europe seems to be the friendliest among all the country, the first ever atm machine that supports cryptocurrency is built and now being used in Europe, I barely remember which country is it, but I'm pretty sure it is in Europe.
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you havent paid tax since a long time ago  ? how come its possible ? or maybe your just a small time person that doesnt have a huge house or business , etc something like that  . anyway i think there will be no taxes to be payed yet or it will be lesser now that we are still in a bad condition . i think they will understand that themselves but sure they can double it soon as long as we are now on recovery and people are also going to understand it   . but why suggest saving btc  ?  i think by using btc we are still obligated for taxes

It's not that hard. I haven't paid any income tax for years. I simply conduct all business in cash and had enough profit from my Bitcoin investments to make me not worry about legal employment ever again. I'va also been employed without any legal agreements for years and have done pretty well doing it. I'm not saying that you should do it, but that's how it used to be done for centuries. When somebody wanted a job to be done they'd come to a vebal agreement with a contractor and you can guess the rest. It's today that you're forced to sign contracts and pay taxes on whatever you were paid. It doesn't mean that this is the only way to live.
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You haven't paid your income taxes since 1997? So you generate $0 income in real-life?
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in the states, it all comes down to the 2020 election IMO. obama increased taxes within a couple weeks of taking office. pollsters give democrats a 55% chance of winning both the white house and senate. that would give them both houses and the presidency---free reign to have a spending and tax hike party.

according to a trump economic advisor:

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"The liquidity and cash phase is coming to an end," White House National Economic Council director Larry Kudlow cautioned in recent days. He signaled a return to the president's pre-pandemic agenda, including tax-cuts and infrastructure investment.

under trump, no more coronavirus relief, and a return to tax cuts?
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You should worry about more taxes on cryptocurrency if you use cryptos for taxable events (trading cryptocurrency to fiat, or crypto to crypto, using cryptocurrency for goods and services, earning cryptocurrency as income). But crytptocurrency transfer and buying crypto with USD aren't considered as taxable events.
It depends on the country you are living if your country considers crypto as an asset then you may be supposed to pay taxes even for holding bitcoin.

Some countries consider it as an asset you you need to pay taxes for your capital gains and some other countries asking corporate taxes for the profits you made while holding cryptos.
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