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Topic: Geth bug cuts in half Ethereum's hashrate - page 6. (Read 5293 times)

legendary
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@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 05:18:07 AM
#25
I wouldnt really put that picture as a profile pic. Aside from the horrible haircut judging by your head you seem like you're 1.60-1.65 and 50-55kg.

Do you think I can do that if I was 1.60 - 1.65?






And ontopic, ofc i have arguments, dollface, i always do. You're just a troll. What makes me an eth shill ? The technology is real, the interest from big corporations is real, it works, it just needs better dapps deployed on it, with some really cool in alpha stages. Where am i wrong ?
And yeah, i know it's not perfect and has bugs, we all know that. Nothing in this world is perfect. It wouldn't be 13$ but 500$ if it was perfect and with 0 bugs, unexploitable, perfectly decentralized, but that's just a dream. All they can do is trying to come as close as they can to that ideal.

Your arguments would be valid when you start to really think. The EF bailed out with the DAO which crashed billions of $ in a matter of days. I'm not saying that they must be perfect, BUT they are the ones who admitted that they released the code too early. What was the reason (other to get some money... fast)?! You don't do that to people who funded you with 100s of millions.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
September 19, 2016, 05:07:01 AM
#24
I wouldnt really put that picture as a profile pic. Aside from the horrible haircut judging by your head you seem like you're 1.60-1.65 and 50-55kg.
And ontopic, ofc i have arguments, dollface, i always do. You're just a troll. What makes me an eth shill ? The technology is real, the interest from big corporations is real, it works, it just needs better dapps deployed on it, with some really cool in alpha stages. Where am i wrong ?
And yeah, i know it's not perfect and has bugs, we all know that. Nothing in this world is perfect. It wouldn't be 13$ but 500$ if it was perfect and with 0 bugs, unexploitable, perfectly decentralized, but that's just a dream. All they can do is trying to come as close as they can to that ideal.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 05:00:27 AM
#23
I'm pretty sure that this mining1 guy is either schizophrenic or he's Minecache's relative. Both are the same ETH shills, except (I'll give him some credit) that mining1 has a few arguments.

Other than that... brainwashed trolls.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
September 19, 2016, 04:53:16 AM
#22
ETC is shilbert, guo's and few others playtoy. They are trying to make money out of it, it's capital is what it is because it bears the same name as ethereum. At this point expanse or any other smart contract platform clone of ethereum beats ETC simply because they have a developing team and a roadmap. Most likely any "developing team" etc may have in the future may give up because they'll have to hardfork either to remove the time bomb, or to further copy ethereum foundation's next major updates. How could they possibly copy those who they "despise and hate " ?
They dont have a real community, it is way too small to be called community, if 2-3 mining whales are leaving the hashrate can drop 90-95% or more.
sr. member
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Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
September 19, 2016, 03:53:14 AM
#21
OK, so Ethereum put a "time bomb" in the origial chain so that it would make mining harder early next year. This was to "persuade" miners to stop mining and move people to PoS.

So maybe, EF put a bug in "geth".  To  "persuade" people to use "Parity" as their node.
Remember, this is the same "geth" that gave you the option to type
Code:
--oppose-dao-fork

I believe, and correct me if i am wrong, Ethereum classic have released their own "geth" and also have an even newer one on pre release test
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/releases

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/53fa3c/what_we_know_about_the_eth_geth_attack_other/
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 03:47:49 AM
#20
You can requote now sweetie, i edited.

Not until you show yourself. I thought we had something.
hero member
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Merit: 500
September 19, 2016, 03:45:10 AM
#19
You can requote now sweetie, i edited.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 03:42:53 AM
#18
Wow dollface, you're scary. I wouldn't post my picture with that kind of stupid haircut. You're not even good looking. Ofcourse they raised money, they are not red cross. Can you do better if you let's say, raise double the amount ? Can you hire better developers and do something better with not 2x the amount, but 10 times the money they had  ? I doubt that.
I'm not telling you something new, but most if not every startup fails more or less, some of them even fail so badly with great ideeas. Never read around about startups being bought for milions simply for their technology / ideea / whatnot , even though they weren't making any profit ? This is the world we live in, great ideeas / technology are invested and speculated in.
If there will be very succesful dapps deployed, eth could go up to ~100$ easily, that's why 13$ atm is not that much of a risk and that's the reason it's cap is over 1billion.

Oh, wow... Brad Pitt of Economics just gave his opinion. Where can I sign for an autograph?
hero member
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Merit: 500
September 19, 2016, 03:37:34 AM
#17
Wow dollface, you're scary. I wouldn't post my picture with that kind of stupid haircut. You're not even good looking. Ofcourse they raised money, they are not red cross. Can you do better if you let's say, raise double the amount ? Can you hire better developers and do something better with not 2x the amount, but 10 times the money they had  ? I doubt that.
I'm not telling you something new, but most if not every startup fails more or less, some of them even fail so badly with great ideeas. Never read around about startups being bought for milions simply for their technology / ideea / whatnot , even though they weren't making any profit ? This is the world we live in, great ideeas / technology are invested and speculated in.
If there will be very succesful dapps deployed, eth could go up to ~100$ easily, that's why 13$ atm is not that much of a risk and that's the reason it's cap is over 1billion.
Ethereum didnt fuck up any crypto concept, because all the crypto was before ethereum was : blockchain / crypto that aimed to be currency. That was all it was and all everyone thought it can be. Untill ethereum came. So don't tell me you don;t agree with what i just said. Ethereum atm is the reason blockchain technology is not only associated with dark markets, drugs, prostitution, weapon traffickers and so on. Now it's starting being associated with technology and unlimited possiblities.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 03:35:21 AM
#16
Except that they already fix it. They almost fix bugs as soon as they appear, not even btctalk trolls can keep up. Unprecedented. But what is the point then, dollface ? The point is, it is not perfect and without bugs ?  Everyone knows that . They're doing something that can be a game changer, for everything, and you expect no bugs ? You were born today ?

EXCEPT THAT THEY RAISED 100S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND EVERY NOW AND THEN, THE SONG REPEATS: "THE DAO WAS OUR BIGGEST PROJECT AND OUR BIGGEST FAILURE. GET OVER IT.". WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST MONEY IN THE MEAN TIME?

Ethereum fucked the concept of crypto. Period. I'm not a hater or something.

And don't call me a troll or a dollface, because you are really seeing my face. If you want to prove some point, you can come over here and say it in front of me, but that's just in case you have an appointment with your dentist.
hero member
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September 19, 2016, 03:28:24 AM
#15
This will not effect Ethereum supporters.  They have faith.  Ethereum is a belief system not unlike religion.  Moreover, they are all ready and willing to commit financial suicide and/or cryptojihad for their cryptofaith and, their almighty leader Vitalik Buterin (Peace be upon him). 
This religious DETH CULT will soon be having its annual Devcon pilgrimage / cryptohajj.  Ether People will travel from far and wide to Shanghai next week for the religious festival.  They feel nothing can stop them.

This is the 21st Century man.  The world turnd to shit.  Government are loosing control, the middle east is torn apart by proxy war, the fiat financial systems are crumbling. People need to believe in something!

Welcome to the first Church of Appliantology "Ethereum"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnO3On4_fo

Brilliant  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
September 19, 2016, 03:28:10 AM
#14
Except that they already fix it. They almost fix bugs as soon as they appear, not even btctalk trolls can keep up. Unprecedented. But what is the point then, dollface ? The point is, it is not perfect and without bugs ?  Everyone knows that . They're doing something that can be a game changer, for everything, and you expect no bugs ? You were born today ?
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 03:25:53 AM
#13

consequences...  50% of nodes could go off line if they see a certain type of transaction. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53dfof/geth_crashing_memory_leak/

I saw that and it was already fixed by (I suppose) karalabe, but that's not the point.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
September 19, 2016, 03:18:09 AM
#12
consequences...  50% of nodes could go off line if they see a certain type of transaction.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53dfof/geth_crashing_memory_leak/

Edit: my previous post is no joke.  If i lived in America i would be involved in setting up counselling groups, self help books and therapy sessions to cure the afflicted. It is our duty to not turn our back on them. 

One can judge a cripto community by the way it cares for its vulnerable.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 02:57:34 AM
#11
This will not effect Ethereum supporters.  They have faith.  Ethereum is a belief system not unlike religion.  Moreover, they are all ready and willing to commit financial suicide and/or cryptojihad for their cryptofaith and, their almighty leader Vitalik Buterin (Peace be upon him). 
This religious DETH CULT will soon be having its annual Devcon pilgrimage / cryptohajj.  Ether People will travel from far and wide to Shanghai next week for the religious festival.  They feel nothing can stop them.

This is the 21st Century man.  The world turnd to shit.  Government are loosing control, the middle east is torn apart by proxy war, the fiat financial systems are crumbling. People need to believe in something!

Welcome to the first Church of Appliantology "Ethereum"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnO3On4_fo

Hahaha, that's a nice trolling. Grin I'm really laughing with tears. Smiley

P.S. I don't care about Ethereum, I care about the consequences which caused.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
September 19, 2016, 02:37:25 AM
#10
This will not effect Ethereum supporters.  They have faith.  Ethereum is a belief system not unlike religion.  Moreover, they are all ready and willing to commit financial suicide and/or cryptojihad for their cryptofaith and, their almighty leader Vitalik Buterin (Peace be upon him). 
This religious DETH CULT will soon be having its annual Devcon pilgrimage / cryptohajj.  Ether People will travel from far and wide to Shanghai next week for the religious festival.  They feel nothing can stop them.

This is the 21st Century man.  The world turnd to shit.  Government are loosing control, the middle east is torn apart by proxy war, the fiat financial systems are crumbling. People need to believe in something!

Welcome to the first Church of Appliantology "Ethereum"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnO3On4_fo
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1176
@FAILCommunity
September 19, 2016, 12:41:15 AM
#9
Well nothing happened and the price is still ok. This is just some people waiting for it to fail and sensationalizing the hell out of the latest bug. To keep things in perspective, it is only a bug. Nothing the development team cannot fix. If everything fails they can always fork it.

Really? The price went down by 4.2% (at some point) in less than 2 hours, but that's probably because Poloniex freezed deposits/withdrawals almost immediately after the bug was found.

Here is a quote from someone who has a better idea on what is going on. The problem is minor and it only proves some people get too excited and get carried way causing them to sensationalize the issue.

Memory leak means you have to restart the program from time to time, else it could eat up all the available memory then freeze/crash.
It's nothing big and it's not a security issue.
I don't think it would cause dump unless more FUD is placed onto the forums.

Here is a quote from someone who is willing to explain you the bigger picture here:

Quote
GROW THE FUCK UP AND USE YOUR BRAIN!
hero member
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Merit: 629
September 19, 2016, 12:20:01 AM
#8
Here is a quote from someone who has a better idea on what is going on. The problem is minor and it only proves some people get too excited and get carried way causing them to sensationalize the issue.

Memory leak means you have to restart the program from time to time, else it could eat up all the available memory then freeze/crash.
It's nothing big and it's not a security issue.
I don't think it would cause dump unless more FUD is placed onto the forums.



The point is that a specific block (and probably a specific transaction) caused such a significant memory leak that the software crashed.  Normal memory leaks do, as your quote says, but that would never get any "coherent effect" because nodes are started up with random times, and hence the crashing rate would be constant and small.  The simultaneous crashing by memory leaks on a specific block actually means something totally different: an exploit.  Mostly, probably, a kind of buffer overflow, the base of 95% of all exploits.
It means that special transactions can blow up your node... or maybe totally other things.  That means the code contains at least one buffer overflow or similar error, and hence most probably MANY.  This is no surprise, as the execution of the complex code means that your node is a small OS in a certain way.  Much, much more complicated to manage exploitless than bitcoin-like nodes.

This is the signature of ethereum: security was an afterthought, and the system they set up is just too complex.

Ethereum is a hacker's paradise.
legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1492
September 18, 2016, 11:57:49 PM
#7
Here is a quote from someone who has a better idea on what is going on. The problem is minor and it only proves some people get too excited and get carried way causing them to sensationalize the issue.

Memory leak means you have to restart the program from time to time, else it could eat up all the available memory then freeze/crash.
It's nothing big and it's not a security issue.
I don't think it would cause dump unless more FUD is placed onto the forums.

legendary
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Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
September 18, 2016, 10:57:08 PM
#6
Hmm ya weird the price is the same pretty much i think.. $12.72

Which is pure lunacy anyway.. no idea why it's even worth 1 cent.
You are all retarded.  Roll Eyes

Oh and Spartak's topic is better because it's not all in CAPS with 80 font  Cheesy
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