Ghislaine Noelle Marion Maxwell - page 2.

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Quote from: cmg777 on December 29, 2021, 06:16:55 PM

Ghislaine Maxwell convicted in Epstein sex abuse case

https://news.yahoo.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jury-must-years-161625990.html

GUILTY!

cmg777 beat me by 9 minutes

BBC is currently interviewing Alan Dershowitz who is explaining that maxwell will appeal, that this case weakens the other cases against p.andrew and that maxwell wont get a 30+ year sentance, but a sub-20 year sentance.

funny part is that Dershowitz was actually one of the [suspected/accused] assaulters of the victims of epstein/maxwell. so the BBC interviewing Dershowitz about the validity of the guilty verdict seems to be lop sided to create a bias that the verdict is unjust.

BBC should have interviewed an impartial law expert. not one of the assaulters.

expect more drama in about 9 months involving the other cases and appeals, seems maxwell and her chums wont just lay down and accept the verdict

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Ghislaine Maxwell convicted in Epstein sex abuse case

https://news.yahoo.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jury-must-years-161625990.html

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funny part is maxwell is pleading ignorance to the prince andrew thing.
but a photo has HER with prince andrew and the 17yo where she took the girl from america to the UK.

it wasnt a pic of epstein, P.andrew and the girl. so its not like it was epstein introducing P.andrew to the girl

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Jury has been deliberating for over 20 hours at this point, asked to review evidence of the accusers. US justice system for federal criminal charges (and state, for that matter) involve a unanimous verdict, both for guilt or acquittal. Generally the longer deliberations take, the better it is for the defense because it usually means there are a few jurors disagree with the majority resulting in a deadlocked.

This is a clear cut case, leaving no possible room to be on the fence. Not sure how you could possibly be unsure in this case about what your position is, but juries are unpredictable.

Keep your eye out for a hung jury, resulting in a mistrial.

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Looks like she be free to go soonish?
https://web.archive.org/web/20211218191801/https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article256675947.html

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Old news but still new
Count One: Conspiracy to entice minors to engage in illegal sex acts.
Count Two: Enticement of a minor to travel to engage in lllegal sex acts.
Count Three: Conspiracy to transport minors with intent to engage in Criminal sexual activity.
Count Four: Transportation of a minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity.
Count Five: Sex trafficking conspiracy
Count Six: Sex trafficking of a minor.
Trial Leaves Out KEY Alleged Epstein Victims.
https://youtu.be/LeTpTS2YJoE

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Quote from: Tash on December 16, 2021, 06:12:17 AM

It's almost as if there is no trial

It is shocking that despite all the interest from the public on this case, the media is still brushing it under the rug. It's almost as if there's extremely wealthy and powerful people that own the media companies and don't want them covering this. With all the garbage the media is throwing at us, what possible sense in the world does it make that we aren't seeing this case plastered on every channel like the OJ trial? None. I hope there are a hundred documentaries that come out slamming every person involved who tried to cover this up. Nowadays you can get cancelled for saying something as commonsense as all lives matter, but get a few hundred 13 year olds to sleep with rich people and you get those responsible for cancel culture suddenly turning a blind eye. Crazy.

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Quote from: Gyfts on December 18, 2021, 03:02:53 AM

Counsel for Maxwell commenced their defense the other day, in which they plan to call 35 witnesses to testify.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwells-defense-begins-judge-denies-request-witness/story?id=81797739

What number of these character could the jury trust -- in my opinion, none.

Surely you can find a defensive witnesses that are willing to lie to support a friend, or mislead a jury to support a friend.

The testimony isn't public, but from what some of the court reporters have said about the testimony, numerous witnesses outline in detail sexual assaults committed either by Maxwell herself or with Epstein in the presence of Maxwell. What could will these witnesses do, say Maxwell is jolly fellow who is not capable of committing any crime?

You mentioned one important thing here, but the other one is that Maxwell already announced through her lawyers to stay silent. Some people seem to be shocked about that, but wasn't it to be expected that she is not going to say a single word? That is probably the best strategy she can choose in her own defense. I guess most importantly it comes down to some of the documents/documentations that have been found concerning Epsteins practices and Maxwell's role in administrating everything.

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Counsel for Maxwell commenced their defense the other day, in which they plan to call 35 witnesses to testify.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwells-defense-begins-judge-denies-request-witness/story?id=81797739

What number of these character could the jury trust -- in my opinion, none.

Surely you can find a defensive witnesses that are willing to lie to support a friend, or mislead a jury to support a friend.

The testimony isn't public, but from what some of the court reporters have said about the testimony, numerous witnesses outline in detail sexual assaults committed either by Maxwell herself or with Epstein in the presence of Maxwell. What could will these witnesses do, say Maxwell is jolly fellow who is not capable of committing any crime?

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Quote from: Tash on December 16, 2021, 06:12:17 AM

It's almost as if there is no trial

Well they had to have the Ritttenhouse and Smollett show trials first then nothing to see here after lets brush it under the rug.

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It's almost as if there is no trial

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Quote from: Gyfts on December 08, 2021, 03:30:35 PM

Twitter banned the Maxwell trial tracker, had 500k followers - https://twitter.com/trackertrial

I don't believe in a grand conspiracy theory, but just in general incompetency by Twitter such that some minor rule must have been violated causing them to take action. There are other places to get info on the trial and Twitter's attempt to silence coverage will not be successful (because I don't think they tried). It's good to know their platform is dedicated to protecting the best among us. Wouldn't want any misinformation on Maxwell going around at all or anything.

It is too much to be a coincidence that as soon as Jack Dorsey steps down you see blatant censorship of seemingly legitimate accounts doing a public service of spreading information about an event people want to stay informed. This might be the most obvious example ever of someone stepping down to take a fat paycheck and walk away while the powers that be immediately start to use their creation for evil. People should take note. Twitter might be the latest example, but this is happening everywhere, in all industries, across continents. People need to learn to think for themselves or our civilization is screwed...

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I'm willing to wager that Ghislaine will meet an untimely demise to "COVID" but it will be poisoning by the bodyguard or someone else. Same song, same dance, Status Quo, the small people don't have a chance, until they pick up a pike and fight back (wow I should be a music writer lol). Franky its good to see you on a topic that you feel passionate about that we agree with here Cheesy

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Quote from: Cnut237 on December 09, 2021, 03:14:49 PM

Quote from: Tash on December 09, 2021, 01:27:34 PM

Photo of Queen's Balmoral log cabin with the two resting at the porch has been shown at her trial, who else managed to use it?

I bet Prince Andrew has been sat on that bench at some point.

Actually, saying that he sat on the bench in the context of a trial suggests that he was involved in some sort of sexual abuse of the judge. I don't mean to imply that at all... Prince Andrew of course is eternally innocent and would never be engaged in any such impropriety. In fact, it's difficult to imagine that he could be involved with this trial in any way. I don't even know why I brought it up, the name just came into my head for some inexplicable reason. Roll Eyes

Ah the toxic duke back in the day
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/10/epstein-ducked-sex-abuse-questions-deposition/

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Quote from: Tash on December 09, 2021, 01:27:34 PM

Photo of Queen's Balmoral log cabin with the two resting at the porch has been shown at her trial, who else managed to use it?

I bet Prince Andrew has been sat on that bench at some point.

Actually, saying that he sat on the bench in the context of a trial suggests that he was involved in some sort of sexual abuse of the judge. I don't mean to imply that at all... Prince Andrew of course is eternally innocent and would never be engaged in any such impropriety. In fact, it's difficult to imagine that he could be involved with this trial in any way. I don't even know why I brought it up, the name just came into my head for some inexplicable reason. Roll Eyes

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60 Minutes Australia
https://youtu.be/8Q2Aks6esJ8

Photo of Queen's Balmoral log cabin with the two resting at the porch has been shown at her trial, who else managed to use it?

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Twitter banned the Maxwell trial tracker, had 500k followers - https://twitter.com/trackertrial

I don't believe in a grand conspiracy theory, but just in general incompetency by Twitter such that some minor rule must have been violated causing them to take action. There are other places to get info on the trial and Twitter's attempt to silence coverage will not be successful (because I don't think they tried). It's good to know their platform is dedicated to protecting the best among us. Wouldn't want any misinformation on Maxwell going around at all or anything.

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Quote from: Tash on December 07, 2021, 09:39:46 AM

Somebody would have to be desperate to work at shit of a place.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ghislaine-maxwells-degrading-58-page-list-rules-staff-epsteins-mansion-revealed-trial/

nothing really revealing in that document that other hotels dont do..
.. however, they really have a thing for ordering alot of cheese. like 3x the amount compared to meat

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Somebody would have to be desperate to work at shit of a place.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ghislaine-maxwells-degrading-58-page-list-rules-staff-epsteins-mansion-revealed-trial/

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maxwells latest defence is that one victim is NOW an actress and is crying crocodile tears which she has been trained to do due to being an actress..

also she has psychologists trying to spread doubt in witness/victims memory

the thing is. many of the victims(if you followed the epstein case) made police statements at the time of their assaults when they were teenagers and so before any even went to acting school or had time to forget what occured.

seems maxwell is not looking for proof of innocence, but instead just enough doubt in witness/victim testimony to get a 'reasonable doubt' verdict of not guilty. but i doubt it will work.

she is guilty. guilty. guilty. maybe better to plead guilty and name and shame for a reduced sentence deal.

the importance of the pilots evidence is not so much about any innappropriate acts happening on the plane in view of the pilot, but simply that maxwell and epstein brought the girls across state lines, thus ticking the first of 2 boxes about trafficking minors

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