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legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
November 29, 2021, 03:39:38 PM
#29
Any recommendations for an exchange with a low minimum charge (under 50 UKP) and low commsiion?     
The following link might come in handy: BTCitcoin Withdrawal Fees on Cryptocurrency Exchanges + Minimum Withdrawal Amounts
Note: I'm not familiar with most of the exchanges from that list, hence why it's not a recommendation.

Just to give you a couple more options:

  • Currency exchange
    Note: Only deal with veterans who have a good reputation since there are a lot of scammers on that board!
  • BTCitcoin ATMs
    - Most of the ones I've seen so far, have an average fee of 10% - 15% but depending on where you are, you "might" be able to find one with a smaller fee.
legendary
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Merit: 7340
Farewell, Leo
November 29, 2021, 02:04:00 PM
#28
Binance will try to trick him into withdrawing their own fake Bitcoin tokens, or they'll charge him about 22 GBP withdrawal fee. That's not very newbie friendly.

If you have a better suggestion drop it. I don't know much from exchanges, but I've seen people being satisfied with few.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 29, 2021, 01:46:22 PM
#27
Binance is fine for these amounts.
Binance will try to trick him into withdrawing their own fake Bitcoin tokens, or they'll charge him about 22 GBP withdrawal fee. That's not very newbie friendly.
newbie
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November 29, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
#26
Well, I do like to think am quite a techie person, I just like to fully undersetand things. I am a newbie who is learning.

 I am going to research in more detail yet.

Thanks for the recommendnation.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
November 29, 2021, 01:11:51 PM
#25
In fact, I saw him last night at a  family get-together and gave him a bit of a tutorial on what I had learned so far and set some "homework" f watching copies of short videos on Bitcoin.
As long as you convince him that it's an interesting thing to get involved and don't just give him the money, you rock. Even if the amount isn't much to start with, you definitely push him in a financially intelligent direction.

Either way, I will soon be ready to dive in with a minimal purchase of my own just to get the hang of it. Any recommendations for an exchange with a low minimum charge (under 50 UKP) and low commsiion?
I don't know many, but since you don't seem me a techie-person, I know Binance is fine for these amounts. Otherwise, if you don't want to give KYC, try a decentralized exchange such as bisq.network.
newbie
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November 29, 2021, 12:13:23 PM
#24
OK, sounds like the worst that can happen is he messes around and blows it.

I am going to talk to his parents and if they give the OK, explain Bitcoin as best I can and offer him the options, including cash. In fact, I saw him last night at a  family get-together and gave him a bit of a tutorial on what I had learned so far and set some "homework" f watching copies of short videos on Bitcoin.   

Either way, I will soon be ready to dive in with a minimal purchase of my own just to get the hang of it. Any recommendations for an exchange with a low minimum charge (under 50 UKP) and low commsiion?     
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 28, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
#23
It'd be basically you giving him an “I owe you X bitcoins” piece of paper that he couldn't do anything other than wait until he's 18, to redeem it.
This reminds me of Using Locktime for inheritance planning, backups or gifts: Coingifter could create a time locked transaction that's only valid when the kid turns 18. This way, he can receive all the information he needs to redeem the coins already, but can't use it yet.
Pros: Coingifter can forget about it.
Cons: The kid still has to trust Coingifter doesn't take the money earlier. And it requires more understanding of what you're doing because it's more complicate to create/redeem.



Do I  have any other option, him being a minor? So how do I give him Bitcoin in a way that ensures he cannot tinker with it?
How about this: Give him half the Bitcoins now, and tell him you'll double it if he doesn't move it before he turns 18!

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I am concerned that he might try to buy more using my debit card credentials. Not saying he would, but just want to make sure.
Bitcoin has nothing to do with your debit card. Owning Bitcoins doesn't give anyone access to whatever other payment methods you used to buy them. If you're concerned about this, it sounds like you should learn a bit more about Bitcoin by yourself. That's good for 2 reasons: first, you may benefit from it in the long term, and second, you can teach your nephew how it works.

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If I am going to sell the idea to his parents, I know they will want reassurances that there is no danger of him getting himself or anyone else into financial trouble.
Unlike credit cards, you can't spend Bitcoins you don't have. That should reassure them he can't go negative.
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
November 28, 2021, 11:42:16 AM
#22
Do I  have any other option, him being a minor? So how do I give him Bitcoin in a way that ensures he cannot tinker with it?

There's no way to ensure he cannot tinker with it. You either give him hard cash or an IOU with the illusion he has bitcoins.
newbie
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November 28, 2021, 11:35:25 AM
#21
Do I  have any other option, him being a minor? So how do I give him Bitcoin in a way that ensures he cannot tinker with it? I am concerned that he might try to buy more using my debit card credentials. Not saying he would, but just want to make sure.

Yes, a good idea to teach him about Bitcoin. He is very financially aware for a 12-year-old - indeed, I jokingly call him "breadhaed" sometimes. I hope he may have a career in the City of London one day if that is his inclination.    

If I am going to sell the idea to his parents, I know they will want reassurances that there is no danger of him getting himself or anyone else into financial trouble. I want peace of mind over it also. 
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
November 28, 2021, 11:29:25 AM
#20
He would have no right to trade or amend things in any way as I retain the private key (?)
Yes. It'd be basically you giving him an “I owe you X bitcoins” piece of paper that he couldn't do anything other than wait until he's 18, to redeem it. If you consider this a nice way of delivering him his gift, then do it. I wish my uncle/aunt had bought me bitcoins as a gift six years ago.

However, I'd appreciate it even more if they had taught me how it works and what's the purpose of it.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 28, 2021, 11:17:05 AM
#19
He would have no right to trade or amend things in any way as I retain the private key (?)

When he is 18 I could fully transfer everything to him legally.
Why not wait until he's 18? If you give him a watch-only wallet now it's basically an "I Owe You" that's completely useless. But worse: many people have been scammed when they thought they bought Bitcoin, but all they got was a watch-only address. He shouldn't think having an address is the same as owning Bitcoin.
newbie
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Merit: 9
November 28, 2021, 09:56:45 AM
#18
I will do more research. It does seem complicated but I can keep at it. 
It seems you're doing great now and I think you already understand the concept of Bitcoin and how it will wor

Thanks. I am getting there Smiley

I am about ready to plunge in. So if  I have this right, I buy the Bitcoin, then transsfer it to my nephew, but only one of the keys (public I believe but need to check this).

W/he can use a paper wallet and if I want I could fund a coin with it.

He would have no right to trade or amend things in any way as I retain the private key (?)

When he is 18 I could fully transfer everything to him legally.   
legendary
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Merit: 1232
November 26, 2021, 09:26:26 AM
#17
I will do more research. It does seem complicated but I can keep at it. 
It seems you're doing great now and I think you already understand the concept of Bitcoin and how it will work.  As you have said above, your nephew said that he/she likes Bitcoin, which means, your nephew probably already knows or has a little idea about Bitcoin and that is the reason why he/she requested that valuable stuff from you.

Just a friendly reminder, remember that anyone who will hold the private key will be the new owner of your Bitcoin.  If you want to hand over the private key to your nephew, just make sure it is safe and should not be saved in any online third party or any device that could be hacked.  Valuable things like this are always prone to scam. 
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 3983
November 25, 2021, 10:41:00 AM
#16
I don't know what the interests of minors in your country are but here many children are interested in Yu-Gi-Oh cards[1] and playing with it so you can search for some cool bitcoin designs or made it you only need designs and print the public/private Bitcoin address on that card[2] and give it to him.

If you are afraid of losing money, print the public key and keep the private key with you.

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legendary
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Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 24, 2021, 05:02:40 PM
#15
I would like to gift Bitcoin to a minor - how would I do this please?
Since you're posting this in Legal, I'd say discuss it with the kid's parents first.

Just a minimum amount which appears to be 30 UKP.
UK Pound? I've never seen it written like that.
In Bitcoin, there's not really a minimum amount, this sounds like a limitation from an exchange, and depending on the exchange you may waste a lot of money on fees. I take it you're unexperienced in Bitcoin yourself, correct?

Or follow this tutorial, (might be outdated though), but the idea is still there [Howto] Give Bitcoin as a gift.
The first site it mentions is (now) a scam! Don't recommend it.

I would prefer to gift Bitcoin in a more ta tangible form than paper.
Just for the record: Bitcoin isn't "tangible". You can write/print/stamp the keys on anything you want though.

There are so many ways of transfering Bitcoin, anything from a printed private key to an Electrum seed or funding an address created by your nephew, but it all has pros and cons you should be aware of before using it. But that doesn't really belong in "Legal".
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1321
Bitcoin needs you!
November 24, 2021, 02:23:20 PM
#14
I’m sure you’ll enjoy your Bitcoin ride  Smiley
You can have a look at the first post in this thread and it will give you some of the basics

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631151.160

Then you can look at getting some Bitcoin and transferring it to a wallet for the kids to hold for the future  Smiley
Good luck and happy to help  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 9
November 24, 2021, 01:51:11 PM
#13
That is helpful, thank you. Agree, I am still very much a newbie and think I will plump for a paper wallet for now.   

I will do more research. It does seem complicated but I can keep at it. 
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1321
Bitcoin needs you!
November 24, 2021, 01:47:29 PM
#12
So I am on a learning curve here. Ben watching some Inrtroudtion to Bitcoin videos.

I would prefer to gift Bitcoin in a more ta tangible form than paper.

I presume the Bitcoin coins you can but for just a few UKP are inherently worthless and need to be funded?   If so, how would I do that? What woudl be the advantage of buying one via the forum linked above?


I presume the Bitcoin credit stick comes pre-funded if that is the right terminology?

So if it costs USD 39 then that is 39 USD worth of Botcoin?

I think if you are going to gift some bitcoin, you need to do a bit of research yourself. Don’t worry and don’t panic Smiley
The ‘credit stick’ you mentioned - probably an open dime is an off line storage device for bitcoin. There are several devices or hardware wallets like this. They come unloaded, ie, no bitcoin included. So you would need to buy these and load the bitcoin yourself. There are plenty of guides out there to help you.
Personally I would avoid buying loaded coins/ items for now as you will definitely need to do a lot more research.
Don’t be put off , Bitcoin  sounds complicated, but the more research you do , obviously the more you’ll understand how it works and you’ll definitely work out what you need to do.
Sorry , I hope this helps  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 9
November 24, 2021, 12:28:53 PM
#11
So I am on a learning curve here. Ben watching some Inrtroudtion to Bitcoin videos.

I would prefer to gift Bitcoin in a more ta tangible form than paper.

I presume the Bitcoin coins you can but for just a few UKP are inherently worthless and need to be funded?   If so, how would I do that? What woudl be the advantage of buying one via the forum linked above?


I presume the Bitcoin credit stick comes pre-funded if that is the right terminology?

So if it costs USD 39 then that is 39 USD worth of Botcoin?
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 9
November 23, 2021, 03:50:35 AM
#10
Interesting - thankyou everyone.
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