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hero member
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Portland Bitcoin Group Organizer
November 23, 2012, 11:31:27 AM
Unlike most people belly aching on here I have no problem with this. Its CYA time, so this was all expected, right?
hero member
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November 23, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou
November 23, 2012, 11:16:06 AM
Actually the simpliest method I've thought of:

Get on cryptostocks.com (A branch of Vircurex)
Issue the bond
turn the bond into a bunch of offline shares
Send the key and the instruction to import the shares
Pay the dividend to us

As Bitcoin is not a kind of currency, is it really that the Federal is sending letters to you and chasing upon you that you are doing those "blank money" thingy. (Logic is same as transferring your armor in game to your friends while you friends paid you, that isn't black money either! Huh?). Why do you need to go through those d___ lawyers


I'll see whats the situation and what everyone else is doing to decide whether do I claim my 2 share and it's dividend.

Sigh~
legendary
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November 23, 2012, 11:03:45 AM
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1.   The bitcoin payment address associated with your glbse.com claim

Sure, no problem.

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2.   Name of the person or entity claiming beneficial assignment of the agreement,

Also OK with that.

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3.   The physical address of the person or entity (no Post Office boxes or mail suites),

If it has to, OK

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4.   The tax identification number of the person or entity claiming beneficial assignment,
5.   For real persons: a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, or, for corporations the document number and issuing jurisdiction of the incorporating charter and proof of current good standing.

Only with a signed non disclosure agreement from this lawyer.
And I also want a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, from him or you.

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6.   An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction.  Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices.

This has to be a joke!


Also, I have no Idea how many Gigamining shares I have. Maybe just 1, that would be mean it's truly not worth the effort. So please provide at last Information about how many shares we are talking here.
donator
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November 23, 2012, 11:01:15 AM
I was expecting something like this but not so bad, you know darn well that I am the holder of 1,530 GM units, you have my associated bitcoin address, email address & forum ID but rather than just pay what you owe me you are going to make it as difficult, costly & inconvenient as possible for me & everyone else who has helped you build your mining operation plus also rule out any chance of the higher rates you promised could be paid when I tripled the coins I put in this, I'd ask you to think again because this is just outright unnecessary BS.
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
November 23, 2012, 10:52:16 AM
The important thing to bear in mind here is that gigavps is actually going into his own pocket to pay what on first glance looks like massive legal fees to try and get this entire mess glbse made out of BTC finance on some sort of a semblance of a healthy footing.

B/S. Since many are not going through the ordeal and expenses to recover their assets, and Giga knows it like anyone, he must even know that it is not him that is going to lose anything. And that is why he pulled this trick IMHO, since there is not really any law which forces him to do this. Otherwise why he did not think about it *before* taking all the investors' coins? Nobody asked me nothing when I bought his shares. Why? And now that is payback time he wants to know even my blood group? Puh-leeze.

Directing your frustration at him would be pretty much the equivalent of the stray dog that after years of living in the streets is now biting the vet.

Very wrong metaphor. We just got another proof that anyone who "invested" on GLBSE should be enraged with his own foolishness first of all.

edit: and now expect that all the other issuers will ask the same. They won't have even to pay for the lawyer.
donator
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November 23, 2012, 10:48:16 AM
The important thing to bear in mind here is that gigavps is actually going into his own pocket to pay what on first glance looks like massive legal fees to try and get this entire mess glbse made out of BTC finance on some sort of a semblance of a healthy footing.
I beg to differ. While establishing contact with the bond holders was made more difficult by GLBSE's actions, the legal nature of the relationship is unaffected. If the lawyers now think he should get approved identities and affidavits from the bond holders, they would have told him the same thing before.
hero member
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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou
November 23, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
HELLO Undecided

So, I have to send all the required data available to your lawyer? I am not old enough to pay tax thus I don't have those "tax bills" (I am in Hong Kong). What should I do if I want to claim? Anyone could tell me? Or was my 2 shares gone forever?
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November 23, 2012, 10:41:40 AM
1. Are going to pay the same dividends every week? Or are you going to buy back the shares? If so what would be the buyback price?

You can see all past and future dividends at http://gigamining.com. There have not been any decisions made about buybacks nor does the current contract enable this since the price to quote is from GLBSE.

2. If You continue mining operation, are you considering to use any third party trading platform to establish market of Gigamining shares?

Gigamining / Teramining will no longer be relying on any third party semi-anonymous systems for trading.

3. What about Teramining? (You can't just simply skip this part of so called "assignable agreement")

Teramining is not off the table.

Just two more questions, are there any deadlines or time references to fulfill the claims? And when are you going to continue gigamining payments? I mean is it after all of the shareholders proceed with the claims, or separately with individual shareholders, who were already verified by your lawyer?
vip
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AKA: gigavps
November 23, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
1. Are going to pay the same dividends every week? Or are you going to buy back the shares? If so what would be the buyback price?

You can see all past and future dividends at http://gigamining.com. There have not been any decisions made about buybacks nor does the current contract enable this since the price to quote is from GLBSE.

2. If You continue mining operation, are you considering to use any third party trading platform to establish market of Gigamining shares?

Gigamining / Teramining will no longer be relying on any third party semi-anonymous systems for trading.

3. What about Teramining? (You can't just simply skip this part of so called "assignable agreement")

Teramining is not off the table.
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November 23, 2012, 10:18:11 AM
I'm not sure how to react on this without being rude, so I will postpone my reaction until I calm down.

Same here. I don't understand where all of this is going to. I believe a part of the shareholders will not even make a claim, given the cost of fulfilling all the legal stuff like apostilles and benefit of having those couple of shares. In addition, taking into account that not a full list of shareholders are given to Gigavps (due to various reasons) that will be a decent cut left for unclaimed obligations for Gigavps, probably to cover costs of his lawyer.

Few questions to James:

 What is the future of Gigamining? Starting claim process should indicate that you already have plans for the future.
1. Are going to pay the same dividends every week? Or are you going to buy back the shares? If so what would be the buyback price?
2. If You continue mining operation, are you considering to use any third party trading platform to establish market of Gigamining shares?
3. What about Teramining? (You can't just simply skip this part of so called "assignable agreement")
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November 23, 2012, 10:17:18 AM
I'm not sure how to react on this without being rude, so I will postpone my reaction until I calm down.

The important thing to bear in mind here is that gigavps is actually going into his own pocket to pay what on first glance looks like massive legal fees to try and get this entire mess glbse made out of BTC finance on some sort of a semblance of a healthy footing.

Directing your frustration at him would be pretty much the equivalent of the stray dog that after years of living in the streets is now biting the vet.
donator
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November 23, 2012, 10:09:09 AM
This is an unpleasant surprise. Not that I want to hide my identity or something, I am publicly known, but there are costs associated with notarisation and apostilles (and ridiculously I have to pay for a translator too, because although my English is probably better than the translator's, I am not a government certified translator and I don't live in an English speaking country at the moment). Are you going to pay for them too, James?

In James' defence though, the lawyers probably decided to play it safe. They are not required to obtain any of this information, but if James gets into trouble with law regarding gigamining, they can document that he made sure everything is ok.

As a side note, this bullshit certification racket should be replaced with cryptography too.
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
November 23, 2012, 09:52:42 AM

Are you joking? Can your lawyer quote any actually existing law that would oblige you to ask all that? Maybe he understood that you want to run a bank, or he just enjoys tequila.
Why don't you just move to another exchange?

edit: WTF is that:
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An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction. Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices.
Huh

Just say that you want to keep all the coins
vip
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AKA: gigavps
November 23, 2012, 09:49:13 AM
The only thing I'm unsure about is how to notorize an email response.

I can send that question to your lawyer if I must.

Just curious, do you have to pay the legal fees if I ask questions to them?

Please direct your question to the email listed in the request.

I have paid and will continue to pay all legal fees in this matter.
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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou
November 23, 2012, 09:44:23 AM
so in short if I am a holder of GIGAMINING, I have to send all the required data to your lawyer?
If I am under 18 and I don't have any tax bills etc. . Am I able to claim (even is just 2 shares)  Huh
anyone could help me decode these words of lawyer?
legendary
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November 23, 2012, 09:44:14 AM
The only thing I'm unsure about is how to notorize an email response.

I can send that question to your lawyer if I must.

Just curious, do you have to pay the legal fees if I ask questions to them?

hero member
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November 23, 2012, 09:41:30 AM
I'm not sure how to react on this without being rude, so I will postpone my reaction until I calm down.
vip
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AKA: gigavps
November 23, 2012, 09:32:07 AM
Request for claims

https://www.virtualprocessingsolutions.com/claims

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To the bitcoin/gigamining community:

Virtual Processing Solutions, LLC (hereinafter VPS) has entered into a number of assignable agreements (sometimes known as “gigamining”), whereby, among its other provisions, in exchange for financial consideration, VPS agreed to conduct electronic data processing services and provide some portion of the outcome of this processing in the form of “bitcoins” to the current beneficial assignees of these agreements.  

These agreements were offered and subsequently traded on www.glbse.com.  As you may be aware, www.glbse.com has suspended normal operations.  It is the intention of VPS to comply with its obligations pursuant to these agreements to the extent consistent with U.S., international, and local law.  While VPS is not aware of any current regulatory action involving www.glbse.com or itself, it is clear that trade in “bitcoins” is attracting increased regulatory and taxation scrutiny.  Accordingly, VPS has retained the Law Offices of Carlos M. Fleites, to resolve such outstanding agreements in a lawful manner.

If you believe you are the beneficial assignee of such an agreement, you are requested to contact the Law Offices of Carlos M. Fleites in writing at the below listed e-mail or physical address to provide the following information:

  • The bitcoin payment address associated with your glbse.com claim
  • Name of the person or entity claiming beneficial assignment of the agreement,
  • The physical address of the person or entity (no Post Office boxes or mail suites),
  • The tax identification number of the person or entity claiming beneficial assignment,
  • For real persons: a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, or, for corporations the document number and issuing jurisdiction of the incorporating charter and proof of current good standing.
  • An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction.  Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices.

All information provided will be held in confidence and used only for the purposes of lawfully fulfilling the obligations of the agreements and not shared with outside parties except as required by law.  If you have any questions or concerns, please address these to the law offices at the following e-mail or mailing address.

[email protected]

or

Law Offices of Carlos M. Fleites, ATTN: Quentin A. Page
407 Lincoln Road, Suite 12-E
Miami Beach, FL 33139
USA

Finally, since no unique identification exists for outstanding agreements, ALL CURRENT BENEFICIAL ASSIGNEES ARE STRONGLY ADVISED NOT TO ENGAGE IN ANY TRANSFER, SALE, OR ASSIGNMENT OF THESE AGREEMENTS OUTSIDE OF GLBSE, AS IT MAY RENDER IT IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY AND SERVICE SUCH AGREEMENTS.

Thank you for your prompt attention in this matter.
sr. member
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November 22, 2012, 12:41:14 PM
gigavps,

when was this last dividend payment you did through glbse?

thanks.

There is a list on http://gigamining.com/
10/1/2012 is the last one paid, 10/8/2012 the first one not yet paid.

Thanks pieppiep.
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