It wasn't repaid because my account was stolen. The evidence I've provided to Sarahiko makes it obvious, but he'd rather try to make a little extra cash by selling the account.
Edit: Sarahiko rejected my 0.1 BTC offer and gave me back my stolen account for the price of the loan taken by the hacker. He's a good guy. Thanks.
Topic: Giving Out Loans - Sarahiko Bitcoin Loan Service (Read 2102 times)
Whitephantom loan wasn't repaid on time by borrower.
This loan is defaulted and collateral taken to cover the debt.
This loan is defaulted and collateral taken to cover the debt.
Loan Amount:0.085
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
DeniedReason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
Your account isn't good collateral for this loan read rule no 2 in first post.
If you have any other account for collateral that has value of 150% of repayment amount I can give this loan.
pp account has 5$
They aren't accepted for collateral, collateral must be something that is easy to liquidate if loan defaulted.
For collateral currently I am accepting altcoin, bitcointalk accounts and few other digitalgoods that can't claimed back or reversed.
For collateral currently I am accepting altcoin, bitcointalk accounts and few other digitalgoods that can't claimed back or reversed.
Loan Amount:0.085
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
DeniedReason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
Your account isn't good collateral for this loan read rule no 2 in first post.
If you have any other account for collateral that has value of 150% of repayment amount I can give this loan.
pp account has 5$
They aren't accepted for collateral, collateral must be something that is easy to liquidate if loan defaulted.
For collateral currently I am accepting altcoin, bitcointalk accounts and few other digitalgoods that can't claimed back or reversed.
Loan Amount:0.085
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
DeniedReason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
Your account isn't good collateral for this loan read rule no 2 in first post.
If you have any other account for collateral that has value of 150% of repayment amount I can give this loan.
pp account has 5$
They aren't accepted for collateral, collateral must be something that is easy to liquidate if loan defaulted.
For collateral currently I am accepting altcoin, bitcointalk accounts and few other digitalgoods that can't claimed back or reversed.
pp account has 5$
Loan Amount:0.085
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
DeniedReason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
Your account isn't good collateral for this loan read rule no 2 in first post.
If you have any other account for collateral that has value of 150% of repayment amount I can give this loan.
Loan Amount:0.085
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
DeniedReason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
Your account isn't good collateral for this loan read rule no 2 in first post.
If you have any other account for collateral that has value of 150% of repayment amount I can give this loan.
Loan Amount:0.085
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
Reason:To complete mining contract
Repayment Amount:0.091
Repayment Date:20/2/2016
Collateral:This BTCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address:15bgAP19XRoWdetVfzCviYsVKCdXpcxggg
@WhitePhantom1980
if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
A reasonable person would think that, right? He told me he won't do that, and that I'll have to bid on it in an auction if I want it back.if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
If I did then we may see many request in lending board people claiming for high ranked collateral account in exchange of paying the loan.
I started a topic in meta about this
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-advice-hacked-account-or-someone-is-trying-to-trick-me-1354724
@WhitePhantom1980
if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
A reasonable person would think that, right? He told me he won't do that, and that I'll have to bid on it in an auction if I want it back.if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
@WhitePhantom1980
if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
A reasonable person would think that, right? He told me he won't do that, and that I'll have to bid on it in an auction if I want it back. if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
@WhitePhantom1980
if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
if the situation is confusing due to the lack of proof, but you ready to re-buy our account of loan price, you should wait until 8 feb. and if borrower not repay, I see no reason why sarachiko can not returned(sell) this account to you.
Here are my most recent communications with Sarahiko on the matter of my account being hacked. Anybody who's interested, please let me know if I'm missing something.
To which I responded:
I think I've made a pretty convincing case, but people in the BTC world often surprise me with theories I never thought of. So let me know if you all think I'm missing something and am somehow still likely to be trying to defraud Sarahiko.
Edit: I don't see what's so difficult about letting me have the account back after the hacker fails to pay since I've offered to reimburse him the .05 BTC. He'd rather make some profit from selling it than do the right thing. How about .06 BTC? I'll do that. I just don't like losing something that belonged to me, but there's no way I'm going to bid against other people in an auction for my account.
Edit:
Wow, there's a Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=4apef7a3
No way I'd pay the expected 0.16 BTC in an auction. I'm annoyed at 0.06, but I'll do it just to get back something that belongs to me.
how it is possible someone was using your account and staked bitcoin address but you don't knew it and when he took loan within few minutes you created a new account saying it was your account and its hacked.
if it was hacked then why didn't you noticed this when the possible hacker was using this since last month but you noticed this within few minutes after loan was processed.
if it was hacked then why didn't you noticed this when the possible hacker was using this since last month but you noticed this within few minutes after loan was processed.
To which I responded:
Quote
I didn't know because I haven't logged into it since last July. I got a couple of PM notification E-Mails this morning.
I said to myself, "wtf, somebody's using my Bitcointalk account." I don't get E-Mail notifications when I login or post something, so when the hacker got in and posted something a month ago, I was oblivious.
Surely, this must make perfectly logical sense to you, especially with the hacker having lied to you about deleting a wallet that I've proven he could never have had in the first place.
I said to myself, "wtf, somebody's using my Bitcointalk account." I don't get E-Mail notifications when I login or post something, so when the hacker got in and posted something a month ago, I was oblivious.
Surely, this must make perfectly logical sense to you, especially with the hacker having lied to you about deleting a wallet that I've proven he could never have had in the first place.
I think I've made a pretty convincing case, but people in the BTC world often surprise me with theories I never thought of. So let me know if you all think I'm missing something and am somehow still likely to be trying to defraud Sarahiko.
Edit: I don't see what's so difficult about letting me have the account back after the hacker fails to pay since I've offered to reimburse him the .05 BTC. He'd rather make some profit from selling it than do the right thing. How about .06 BTC? I'll do that. I just don't like losing something that belonged to me, but there's no way I'm going to bid against other people in an auction for my account.
Edit:
Wow, there's a Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=4apef7a3
No way I'd pay the expected 0.16 BTC in an auction. I'm annoyed at 0.06, but I'll do it just to get back something that belongs to me.
The account price estimator is very inflated. The account would be worth 0.06 at most and even at 0.06 it might take a while to find a buyer.
Here are my most recent communications with Sarahiko on the matter of my account being hacked. Anybody who's interested, please let me know if I'm missing something.
To which I responded:
I think I've made a pretty convincing case, but people in the BTC world often surprise me with theories I never thought of. So let me know if you all think I'm missing something and am somehow still likely to be trying to defraud Sarahiko.
Edit: I don't see what's so difficult about letting me have the account back after the hacker fails to pay since I've offered to reimburse him the .05 BTC. He'd rather make some profit from selling it than do the right thing. How about .06 BTC? I'll do that. I just don't like losing something that belonged to me, but there's no way I'm going to bid against other people in an auction for my account.
Edit:
Wow, there's a Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=4apef7a3
No way I'd pay the expected 0.16 BTC in an auction. I'm annoyed at 0.06, but I'll do it just to get back something that belongs to me.
how it is possible someone was using your account and staked bitcoin address but you don't knew it and when he took loan within few minutes you created a new account saying it was your account and its hacked.
if it was hacked then why didn't you noticed this when the possible hacker was using this since last month but you noticed this within few minutes after loan was processed.
if it was hacked then why didn't you noticed this when the possible hacker was using this since last month but you noticed this within few minutes after loan was processed.
To which I responded:
Quote
I didn't know because I haven't logged into it since last July. I got a couple of PM notification E-Mails this morning.
I said to myself, "wtf, somebody's using my Bitcointalk account." I don't get E-Mail notifications when I login or post something, so when the hacker got in and posted something a month ago, I was oblivious.
Surely, this must make perfectly logical sense to you, especially with the hacker having lied to you about deleting a wallet that I've proven he could never have had in the first place.
I said to myself, "wtf, somebody's using my Bitcointalk account." I don't get E-Mail notifications when I login or post something, so when the hacker got in and posted something a month ago, I was oblivious.
Surely, this must make perfectly logical sense to you, especially with the hacker having lied to you about deleting a wallet that I've proven he could never have had in the first place.
I think I've made a pretty convincing case, but people in the BTC world often surprise me with theories I never thought of. So let me know if you all think I'm missing something and am somehow still likely to be trying to defraud Sarahiko.
Edit: I don't see what's so difficult about letting me have the account back after the hacker fails to pay since I've offered to reimburse him the .05 BTC. He'd rather make some profit from selling it than do the right thing. How about .06 BTC? I'll do that. I just don't like losing something that belonged to me, but there's no way I'm going to bid against other people in an auction for my account.
Edit:
Wow, there's a Bitcointalk Account Price Estimator
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=4apef7a3
No way I'd pay the expected 0.16 BTC in an auction. I'm annoyed at 0.06, but I'll do it just to get back something that belongs to me.
Loan Amount: 0.05
Reason: N/A
Repayment Amount: 0.06
Repayment Date: 08-02-2016
Collateral: BCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address: 17ueVQXsPAnyHkahjh3HDPFYxAkDQKYR6U
Reason: N/A
Repayment Amount: 0.06
Repayment Date: 08-02-2016
Collateral: BCTalk Account
Bitcoin Address: 17ueVQXsPAnyHkahjh3HDPFYxAkDQKYR6U
I'm WhitePhantom. Somebody has hacked my account and is trying to scam you. Do NOT give him anything, please.
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I WhitePhantom confirms I am taking 0.05btc loan from sarahiko on 5th February 2016 using my this account for collateral.If I failed to repay 0.06 on 8th February 2016, Sarahiko will become owner of this account and can sell it to cover his loss.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ACiynHtEoGoqSDtf9QWH8cnubxVgUnPUy
Hz/eO8Gb9dddRlZpJdXlWZufh9SXmOV21uPPZQOUxYB+XpT20CLIL7BmVZkaeuKa7hxzanSNDjxUrei1o9RZeTI=
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why this user come instantly after taking the loan but account doesn't reset or changed his password.If the account was hacked then why hacker doesn't changed email and password of the account.
I think something shady here
Anyway, you don't get a notification when you post so the hacker probably posted the address. There was no activity for around a year and he comes back, stakes an address and requests a loan? Should have done better research.
Loan Amount:.04
Reason:Upgrade Site
Repayment Amount:.05
Repayment Date:February 9
Collateral:BTC account
Bitcoin Address:1CT7qxjVn3thq2ZxPu3sZxZFbAN2QWyirR
DeniedReason:Upgrade Site
Repayment Amount:.05
Repayment Date:February 9
Collateral:BTC account
Bitcoin Address:1CT7qxjVn3thq2ZxPu3sZxZFbAN2QWyirR
Your account isn't good collateral for this loan read rule no 2 in first post.
If you have any other account for collateral that has value of 150% of repayment amount I can give this loan.
Loan Amount:.04
Reason:Upgrade Site
Repayment Amount:.05
Repayment Date:February 9
Collateral:Paypal account
Bitcoin Address:1CT7qxjVn3thq2ZxPu3sZxZFbAN2QWyirR
Reason:Upgrade Site
Repayment Amount:.05
Repayment Date:February 9
Collateral:Paypal account
Bitcoin Address:1CT7qxjVn3thq2ZxPu3sZxZFbAN2QWyirR
Have you PM the borrower before sending his loan ? If the hacker didn't change the email address, that could eventually explain why the real owner was aware of this and create a new account in order to prevent a possible scam attempt.
This said, lenders should really do their homework before lending and asking for a signature of an address staked at least 3 months ago, there's too much scam attempts involving hacked accounts. This seems to be the new thing in here now.
Yes this user PMed me and we discussed for sometime, he sent me signed message with PM as wellThis said, lenders should really do their homework before lending and asking for a signature of an address staked at least 3 months ago, there's too much scam attempts involving hacked accounts. This seems to be the new thing in here now.
I wonder why a new person pop-out within few minutes of sending loan but where he was when the guy staked bitcoin address and used the account.Anyway I have sent him message asking if he can sign message, if he did we can find a solution for this else his claims are fake.
but how it is possible a hacker using account and staked bitcoin address but the real owner wasn't aware of this but when he took the loan someone created a new account saying it was his account thats hacked.How he got notification within few minutes of taking loan but no notification about any other activity on account.
Have you PM the borrower before sending his loan ? If the hacker didn't change the email address, that could eventually explain why the real owner was aware of this and create a new account in order to prevent a possible scam attempt.
This said, lenders should really do their homework before lending and asking for a signature of an address staked at least 3 months ago, there's too much scam attempts involving hacked accounts. This seems to be the new thing in here now.
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