Topic: Giving out merit to people you know, acceptable or not? (Read 753 times)

Should be okay as long as it's within limits. 'Meriting friends' system seems to be very famous in some regional sub-sections.

So, if I give you Merits for crying, will you still say that one of my favorites is you? 😂 Silly. Merits are meant to give to posts that has enough quality to be informative and also to some posts that seems to be agreeable to other users. Even if its just a troll it can have exemptions. So stop crying mate, we are working on our asses to award users whose effort is indeed worthy of Merits.

Yelp i wanted to prove a point (to myself atleast ) that this merit system is full of favouritism and i just did, your other meaningless and senseless post don't mean anything to me .
Merit given in this forum is not base on anything else but favoritism

Bye

Well, am not also surprised on someone whose crying 'bout my posts getting Merited. You might cry even harder for I'm a Source now.

Just to tell you one thing, chewing shits aren't my thing, though I just spit on them and try to cover them with sand and throw them somewhere else. So the other's won't being seeing shits as I did.

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And as an additional, FYI, even if you dig a whole lot of evidence, you really can't prove what alts you're saying that I have probably used. By the fact that I also don't know who's that user and getting vanished after a day.

It's been a while since you've posted here pajeet, have you gotten full of trash on your main account?

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@CryptopreneurBrainboss Thanks for tagging me here, and for giving such clear detailed info as always. But still I don't think such pajeets will try to understand that. Just hoping that they will 😁


Edit 1: Hey Pajeet, don't waste finding my alts. I will just show it all to you. And the accounts that is somehow connected to me as for it is owned by my relatives.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/known-alts-of-any-one-a-user-generated-list-mk-iii-2021-q2-2544574

Just a little Message for you if you're about to see it:

(Pardon me, @suchmoon for using your phrase)

You should understand, most higher ranked users don't actively participate in the meriting of post but when they do, they might just decide to offload their smerits on any worthy post they see not minding the amount they send. That post was (before it go ruined) a quality post and I'll explain below


The whole yobit discussion wasn't a productive one to the forum as no sign of improvement was observe, it was just giving the signature more publicity instead of actually solving the problem until theymos stepped in and I'm sure most of the merits came before he edited the post.

Am not surprised, anyone who find that post worthy enough to give 13 merit is clearly showing favouritism, no matter how hard anyone try to defend it that post is not worthy of such amount of merit, how can you tell there is no personal sentiment attach it?
Most of the rules in here only applies to some certain class of people while the other class can do as they please

You may see it as a shit post but those who merited it probably agrees to what the poster is saying (or at least the poster said what they wanted to say).

That "merit worthy" is subjective imo. There are no specific standards. What's unworthy to me might be worthy for you or vice versa. We can use the post you are referring to as an example.

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To the OP, I do not see any issue meriting someone I know as long as I find the post useful/informative to me or to others.

Now i laugh so hard to see all the big accounts in here given an example of what a post may look like to attract sMerit, at least @op was sensible enough not to give a huge lump of sMerit to his friend unlike the below senseless post that was given a whooping 13 sMerit for shit posting,



Can someone tell me why this meaningless, uneducative shit post could attract so much sMerit than some really good post i have seen in this forum which have only manage to receive not higher than 2 sMerit ? or is it because he made the post in the much hated Yobit thread that makes it okey?

This sMerit was given by a Legendary member, which am guessing is either an Alts account of his or just like OP a very good friend of his   This is a clear example of merit abuse,
 
In my few weeks of been in this forum, i think i have made some reasonable post than this account but since i don't belong to any gang, never save the forum from sinking or not a friend of any Big Guy here, i don't deserve to earn 13 sMerit for my post

@OP don't worry about your few post to your friend, compare to the above Santa, you are very considerate and reasonable, am sure the merit you gave was worth the post.

Here is an example of a good post but with just 2 sMerit:-



Here you can find post and tell me if it worth 13 sMerit - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50718411

It's okay lol!

It's human nature to prefer someone you know or have made connection to. It's normal!

As long as the bias doesn't turn into exclusiveness or loyalty, it's fine!

Look at the positive side, you made him join as you know he will be a valuable member, so meriting his quality posts would only encourage him contributing more to the site

Also, few merits are never equal to a true friend. Give or not give, doesn't matter

Chill

Interesting discussion, I think that it would be better for him if I didn't intervene in the future.
I mean, if I were in his situation, I'd feel happier if I'd earned all merit by myself, without the intervention of a friend. It kinda devalues the achievement in the end.


That's actually a great story, I'm 100% sure he wouldn't be pissed at me. Heck, we wouldn't be friends otherwise

I would consider a business relationship someone you either trade with on a regular basis, have an employee/employer relationship, or run a business with. A business relationship is one that either generates income for you, or provides you access to liquidity and/or capital. The extent of how much of your income you rely on this person for also matters, for example if you make $200 a month from your relationship with the person when you make several thousand dollars per month, your relationship might not be a huge conflict of interest, while a relationship that generates substantially all of your income would be a more clear conflict of interest.

If you give a couple of merit her and there to someone you are in business with, while giving 95%+ of the merit you send every month to others, it would probably not be a big deal, while giving a larger percentage, or a majority of the merit you send every month to someone you are in a business relationship with is probably not making a good use of the merit system, in my view.

If the extent of your relationship with the person is you follow eachothers blog, and you chat for a few hours a week, (and you upvote eachothers blogs, which would result in very little money for each of you), I don't have any concerns about you sending merit to the person, myself.

Merit is meaningless garbage in its current form. However if ANY post is merit worthy. For example it made a positive contribution towards the optimal solution or outcome it should be seen as objectively deserving merit.

Since most people here have varying capacities for recognizing the TRUE value of a post then a true meritocracy is impossible with any kind of reliability or objective accuracy.

It is mostly a political weapon here, so giving it to people you are closely aligned with should be done so with extra consideration lest it comes under external scrutiny and you need to explain it.

Since it seems almost impossible to abuse merit unless to a PROVEN alt (which again is quite impossible) so I do not think you have much to worry about especially if the posts are of high value.

I would rather see people give merit to a true high value post of a friend than give merit to a clearly misleading or super low value post of someone they did not know. Although perhaps those that constantly merit the SAME people over a long period should have limits imposed upon the merit sharing.

Yes, of course, I am very sorry. From two days I keep answering all questions and did it without thinking too much.

There's already a thread relating to your situation, please stop derailing this one.

Because of my work, I am sometimes not available for a few days and this is the time when I sent very rare PM"s to Crypto Mania and only related to Bitcointalk.

In two years I think that was 5 PMs.

If you merit him because you know him, it's frowned upon.
However, if you read his posts because you know him, and merit them because they're good, I see no problem there.
LoyceV, check his posts, he doesn't look like a spammer, so merit shouldn't hold him back.

Well just to point out, that post you linked in your OP was actually worth meriting irrespective of whether you know the OP or not. I did merit the post myself because it was a honest question that other users could relate to) so you didn't do anything wrong. 

About meriting friends, I don't see anything wrong with that, especially when you did find their post won't meriting although you shouldn't abuse that privileges in regards to meriting spam or posts you won't have merited if you didn't know that individual personally because if you do it'll come back to hurt you.

Merit are met for quality contributions therefore irrespective of who the posters are, (be it friends, trolls, members of ranks we presume don't need merit etc) you're free to send them smerits with exception to yourself (alts).

Interesting thread.

Everyone I know on Bitcointalk I found here or on anandtech or macrumors or  or 123macmini or  parts express forums.

Mostly found all my Bitcointalk buddies here.

Buysolar
Wheelz1200

live close by and I have meet with them more than once.

Generalt is also close by  maybe 40 minutes away.

I have done multiple deals with 2 of them and Buysolar and I are business partners in the Clifton NJ array

I never considered whether I should merit them. Or for that matter if it was wrong to do so.

Honestly, every individuals of this forum have friends or someone which they like to give merit to special when the person done something which seems to be helpful to them (an example are campaign managers) but abusing the merit system where by ones give merit to post which seems pointless is something I dont agree with cause it may lead to controversy.

As long as the post is actually helpful/good, then whoever he/she is, it doesn't really matter if the person is your friend/relative/etc, as long as it isn't you.

I would tell you to think twice in sending your "friend" merit as you definitely could be accused of owning that account, but I don't think you really should think too much of it, as 6 merits in the spam of 6 months is nothing close to sort of "merit spam" at all.

Suchmoon has sent me 60 merits in total. But it doesn't automatically mean we're somewhat related. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=mjglqw&from=suchmoon