Topic: Glad chips haven't shipped... - page 2. (Read 2440 times)
Yifu is a clever bastard
Not very clever when those same people "early adopters" stop buying Avalon products.
+1
Only some of batch #1 customers were happy, the rest just licks their wounds.
I'm pretty sure that most of batch #3 and trade-in customers will never order any products from Avalon, even if they come out
with 10nm products tomorrow. What can you expect from a man who is 24 years old? He has zero experience dealing with customers. And the way he avoided his customers in this Avalon project, I'm pretty sure he is not looking forward to more of the same. He will probably retire after this and laugh all the way to the bank.
I wish him well. Based on what he said in his last update, I'm pretty sure he received death threats so I'd not want to be in his shoes.
Looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.
Who knows, maybe he will just walk away from all this. No chips, no more products from BitSynCom...
Either way, it was a very mismanaged project.
Personally, I'm kinda glad chips haven't been shipped yet due to the increase in difficulty. Sucks that people have put money into preorders but that was your decision. Yifu is a clever bastard but it really should have been expected.
There, I said it.
There, I said it.
Not very clever when those same people "early adopters" stop buying Avalon products. Given the competition his "cleverness" will be a liability. The DIY community will definitely be going another direction after this debacle. Remember that DIY probably drove a good portion of the sales for these chips something that other chip makers should capitalize on in future. I suspect that like the limited and anemic development for BFL chip / board, (relative to the Klondike, BitBurner, and the Alten offering based on Avalon chips), Avalon has pretty much lost most future DIY board development. Why should anyone bother with Avalon or BFL when you can get other chips that are faster, more efficient and delivered on time with companies that are actually polite, responsive and supportive when you develop DIY boards? Note that many are also offering "protection" against the vagaries of the difficulty spikes as well as offering chips that are at starting at competitive costs.
Yes to "be fair" to the Batch 3 owners chips should continue to be delayed for 7+ weeks 
Batch 1 was late. Batch 2 was late. Batch 3 was late. People said "but chips are different". Nope sorry!
Watching all this go down when chip sales were announced I thought two things:
1. Well there goes my Batch 2/3 investment, cannibal Avalon...
2. Anyone believing chips would ship as estimated hasn't been paying attention, Avalon has historically always been at least 1 month late, with 3+ being more likely.
But still, 1-3 months late is NOTHING compared to the travesty that is BFL...
What I think most people need to understand that is clear now - ASIC Makers don't WANT to release too fast. That would kill orders and slay the goose laying the golden eggs (aka miner's money!)
As for everyone freaking out about the difficulty - that's partially because B3 finally fully made it out the door! Just imagine when chips hit...
Batch 1 was late. Batch 2 was late. Batch 3 was late. People said "but chips are different". Nope sorry!
Watching all this go down when chip sales were announced I thought two things:
1. Well there goes my Batch 2/3 investment, cannibal Avalon...
2. Anyone believing chips would ship as estimated hasn't been paying attention, Avalon has historically always been at least 1 month late, with 3+ being more likely.
But still, 1-3 months late is NOTHING compared to the travesty that is BFL...
What I think most people need to understand that is clear now - ASIC Makers don't WANT to release too fast. That would kill orders and slay the goose laying the golden eggs (aka miner's money!)
As for everyone freaking out about the difficulty - that's partially because B3 finally fully made it out the door! Just imagine when chips hit...
+1
Personally, I'm kinda glad chips haven't been shipped yet due to the increase in difficulty. Sucks that people have put money into preorders but that was your decision. Yifu is a clever bastard but it really should have been expected.
There, I said it.
There, I said it.
Now that's not very nice even if you may be right. No one likes the guy that says: "I told you so."
Didn't mama ever teach you: "If you don't have something nice to say..." Karma tends to bite us in the rear when we gloat.
As a bystander to this entire trainwreck I can't believe that there still isn't any closure; like we're still waiting for the final acts.
You think this wait was bad? I started reading The Wheel of Time, literally the most epic fantasy series ever, by Robert Jordan in '90. He died & fans thought it was over, as unfinished. A brilliant author picked up the work with Jordan's wife's approval & finished the series 23 years later! Now we didn't have BTC involved but we still had a lot of time/$ invested in the series.
Yes to "be fair" to the Batch 3 owners chips should continue to be delayed for 7+ weeks
Batch 1 was late. Batch 2 was late. Batch 3 was late. People said "but chips are different". Nope sorry!
Watching all this go down when chip sales were announced I thought two things:
1. Well there goes my Batch 2/3 investment, cannibal Avalon...
2. Anyone believing chips would ship as estimated hasn't been paying attention, Avalon has historically always been at least 1 month late, with 3+ being more likely.
But still, 1-3 months late is NOTHING compared to the travesty that is BFL...
What I think most people need to understand that is clear now - ASIC Makers don't WANT to release too fast. That would kill orders and slay the goose laying the golden eggs (aka miner's money!)
As for everyone freaking out about the difficulty - that's partially because B3 finally fully made it out the door! Just imagine when chips hit...
Batch 1 was late. Batch 2 was late. Batch 3 was late. People said "but chips are different". Nope sorry!
Watching all this go down when chip sales were announced I thought two things:
1. Well there goes my Batch 2/3 investment, cannibal Avalon...
2. Anyone believing chips would ship as estimated hasn't been paying attention, Avalon has historically always been at least 1 month late, with 3+ being more likely.
But still, 1-3 months late is NOTHING compared to the travesty that is BFL...
What I think most people need to understand that is clear now - ASIC Makers don't WANT to release too fast. That would kill orders and slay the goose laying the golden eggs (aka miner's money!)
As for everyone freaking out about the difficulty - that's partially because B3 finally fully made it out the door! Just imagine when chips hit...
Personally, I'm kinda glad chips haven't been shipped yet due to the increase in difficulty. Sucks that people have put money into preorders but that was your decision. Yifu is a clever bastard but it really should have been expected.
There, I said it.
There, I said it.
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