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Topic: [GLBSE] BFLS.RIG - BFL Hardware mining & Sales - page 16. (Read 28518 times)

donator
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Hardware is in!

Great ! Are the rigs operational and is there a place where we can check out the mining stats of the new rigs ?

Yes, we're looking forward to the dividend Smiley
legendary
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1 BTC =1 BTC
Hardware is in!

Great ! Are the rigs operational and is there a place where we can check out the mining stats of the new rigs ?
legendary
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Yeah, I am talking to them with regards to the fees and explaining what I am doing and why the 400 BTC would be coming directly out of my pocket.
newbie
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About the GLBSE fee:

Inaba, why not try to contact GLBSE and negotiate with them a lower fee rate?

I have a trouble ticket open for GLBSE, but if they can't help me, I have to figure something else out.

I'm guessing that's what the ticket is for. Those fees do seem steep for issuers when transferring huge amounts of shares. Pretty reasonably for small amounts (to prevent "black market" deals, i.e. transfer shares to a person and have them send BTC outside of GLBSE).
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hero member
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The fee per volume should be logarithmic, so that after a specific volume it "flattens out". Should be very easy to implement, if there's the will for it! Tongue
donator
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it's great to hear the news and looking forward to the dividend Smiley

About the GLBSE fee:

Inaba, why not try to contact GLBSE and negotiate with them a lower fee rate? for example, no matter how large a single transaction, the total fee will not exceed a certain number, like 25BTC. such kind of fee structure is  very common in the exchange and money wiring business. As the BFL is a very important asset on the GLBSE, And they are intended to attract large asset trading on their exchange, I think they will consider the proposition seriously.
legendary
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Oye... mpex is basically unusable by anyone and the fees are, indeed, extortion.  Lol...

"Oye" was my first impression as well ... mpex is certainly a 'unique' site.

As for cryptostocks, it appears to have gone up a month ago. Volumes and stocks on offer are, expectedly, extremely thin. Some of the comments about it on https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-is-httpscryptostockscom-89572 are not exactly confidence-inspiring. But then, everyone needs to start somewhere ... though I'd rather not end up being an unwitting 'site beta tester'.

One would think that Nefario would step in to offer a reasonable solution to your situation. GLBSE's current fee structure is poorly suited for this scenario; on the bright side it presents an opportunity for them to make it more 'friendly' for this type of activity. Let's hope they take it.
legendary
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Oye... mpex is basically unusable by anyone and the fees are, indeed, extortion.  Lol...

Cryptostocks - I will look more into that.
legendary
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CryptoXange (or whatever) does stock assets?  Never heard of mpex?

hero member
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It's so hard to find all the info you need on GLBSE, the fact that it takes about a month to load a page doesn't help.  Anyway, it looks like its 20 "BP" to transfer a share.  I need to transfer close to 100,000 shares, before the ASIC stuff.  That comes to about 200 BTC.  ASIC would cost another 200 BTC.

The GPG idea is good, but it sound like an administration hassle.  Ugh.. really need to come up with something or someone needs to open an exchange that is responsive and doesn't charge exorbitant fees.  This is what happens when you have a monopoly.  Imagine the fees if there was only one Bitcoin pool.  Thank goodness for competition.


There is that other exchange Crypto(something), and mpex, I am not sure of their fees though.  mpex probably still has that 20 bitcoin creation fee.
legendary
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It's so hard to find all the info you need on GLBSE, the fact that it takes about a month to load a page doesn't help.  Anyway, it looks like its 20 "BP" to transfer a share.  I need to transfer close to 100,000 shares, before the ASIC stuff.  That comes to about 200 BTC.  ASIC would cost another 200 BTC.

The GPG idea is good, but it sound like an administration hassle.  Ugh.. really need to come up with something or someone needs to open an exchange that is responsive and doesn't charge exorbitant fees.  This is what happens when you have a monopoly.  Imagine the fees if there was only one Bitcoin pool.  Thank goodness for competition.
hero member
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Hardware is in!

On another note, I went to true up the GLBSE account for shares.  I may have to abandon GLBSE all together and figure out some other method of dividend payments, because I simply can't transfer all the shares around that need to be transferred.  It would end up costing nearly 400 BTC to transfer all the shares, including the upcoming ASIC shares.  At the current market rate, it would cost me almost $5000 USD to *transfer* shares.  Selling those shares would cost 2.5x that, or nearly $12,000 USD.  Holy crap!

I have a trouble ticket open for GLBSE, but if they can't help me, I have to figure something else out.  I simply can't afford $5000 going towards fees for a simple transfer, much less $12,000 sale charges.

Ya'll might consider petitioning GLBSE for sane fees (and by sane, I mean fractions of a penny per trade/transfer or a flat rate).  Right now, the fees are absolutely insane with the current value of a BTC.



What is the fee for transferring shares?  It does not make sense that there is a few to transfer shares.  Companies create shares in the financial world all the time. 

Maybe you can give GPG signed contracts.  The holders of those contracts can receive dividends to a specific address.  People can sell those contracts to other people and if the new owners need to change the payment address they can prove to you they own the share and you can change the address.  You can also allow people to trade in their GPG contracts for GLBSE shares for a fee that will cover the GLBSE fees.
legendary
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Hardware is in!

On another note, I went to true up the GLBSE account for shares.  I may have to abandon GLBSE all together and figure out some other method of dividend payments, because I simply can't transfer all the shares around that need to be transferred.  It would end up costing nearly 400 BTC to transfer all the shares, including the upcoming ASIC shares.  At the current market rate, it would cost me almost $5000 USD to *transfer* shares.  Selling those shares would cost 2.5x that, or nearly $12,000 USD.  Holy crap!

I have a trouble ticket open for GLBSE, but if they can't help me, I have to figure something else out.  I simply can't afford $5000 going towards fees for a simple transfer, much less $12,000 sale charges.

Ya'll might consider petitioning GLBSE for sane fees (and by sane, I mean fractions of a penny per trade/transfer or a flat rate).  Right now, the fees are absolutely insane with the current value of a BTC.

legendary
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Nope, but you can be sure I will make a post here as soon as I have more information.
newbie
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Any updates on the delivery time?
donator
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It doesn't like BTCSYN, keep lots of fund under the control of the issuers. I'm not that worry about the safty of the funds. But good security practice is good for everyone.
legendary
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Yep, I sure do... much to my chagrin since it's TOTP and often times out and is a major pain in the ass to use. 
hero member
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I'm told sometime next week.

That is good news.  Also, do you use 2-factor authentication for GLBSE.  I would hate to see something happen to BFLS like has been happening to other asset creators.
legendary
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I'm told sometime next week.
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