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Topic: [GLBSE] REBATE official thread - page 3. (Read 14383 times)

sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
August 08, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
Sorry m8, I did the best with what I had. I have around 6000 shares in Rebate as well Sad
//DeaDTerra

Sounds like you have good cause to buy more shares to move the average price to where it should be in case of a buyback.



I would do it if I new how long until  and IF it would happen...  no point in spending hundreds of coins just to have the buyback 24 hrs later...

If only we could get some of those too-low asks cancelled (or raised)...

donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 08, 2012, 04:28:13 PM
I did my bit to move the price last week, and a buyback appears the only sensible option.

However, on top of that, the dividend (what ever it is) still needs to be paid.

Sounds like a motion to wind-up/buyback is in order.
That's what I am working for Smiley
All I need is JRO to accept the buyback, he has control of the account and a majority of the equity raised.
//DeaDTerra
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
August 08, 2012, 04:11:03 PM
I did my bit to move the price last week, and a buyback appears the only sensible option.

However, on top of that, the dividend (what ever it is) still needs to be paid.

Sounds like a motion to wind-up/buyback is in order.
legendary
Activity: 1449
Merit: 1001
August 08, 2012, 01:28:06 PM
Sorry m8, I did the best with what I had. I have around 6000 shares in Rebate as well Sad
//DeaDTerra

Sounds like you have good cause to buy more shares to move the average price to where it should be in case of a buyback.



I would do it if I new how long until  and IF it would happen...  no point in spending hundreds of coins just to have the buyback 24 hrs later...
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 08, 2012, 12:46:19 PM
Sorry m8, I did the best with what I had. I have around 6000 shares in Rebate as well Sad
//DeaDTerra

Sounds like you have good cause to buy more shares to move the average price to where it should be in case of a buyback.


Don't have enough liquid BTC atm, unfortunatly.
//DeaDTerra
sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
August 08, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
Sorry m8, I did the best with what I had. I have around 6000 shares in Rebate as well Sad
//DeaDTerra

Sounds like you have good cause to buy more shares to move the average price to where it should be in case of a buyback.

hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
August 08, 2012, 12:07:56 PM
Seems like withdrawls don't work either.  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1449
Merit: 1001
August 08, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
Wasn't directed to you DT..   and I know the real responsible people probably don't read it- just letting off steam....
and maybe a warning  for the future - at least rebate investors  will be wary of other businesses  run by the same
people ( you know who you are....)
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 08, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
So, do we buy it up to 0.2 and keep it there, or will the buyback be at 0.2 already?
It will be as according to contract, so it will be bound to the five day average of the bond.
I am still waiting for confirmation from JRO for a buyback.
//DeaDTerra


Hmm.. so basically we are  F*****  since the price is around 1.2 .
I understand there is a contract, but this "company" didn't even really start , didn't give div's , didn't do anything really..

oh well , beggars can't be choosers.

Just will have to watch out from investing in startups.
Sorry m8, I did the best with what I had. I have around 6000 shares in Rebate as well Sad
//DeaDTerra
legendary
Activity: 1449
Merit: 1001
August 08, 2012, 11:06:48 AM
So, do we buy it up to 0.2 and keep it there, or will the buyback be at 0.2 already?
It will be as according to contract, so it will be bound to the five day average of the bond.
I am still waiting for confirmation from JRO for a buyback.
//DeaDTerra


Hmm.. so basically we are  F*****  since the price is around 1.2 .
I understand there is a contract, but this "company" didn't even really start , didn't give div's , didn't do anything really..

oh well , beggars can't be choosers.

Just will have to watch out from investing in startups.
sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
August 08, 2012, 10:36:56 AM
So, do we buy it up to 0.2 and keep it there, or will the buyback be at 0.2 already?
It will be as according to contract, so it will be bound to the five day average of the bond.
I am still waiting for confirmation from JRO for a buyback.
//DeaDTerra

How will the average price of the last 120 hours be calculated?  The only trades I see in that window are from Aug 4.  If the average is weighted by shares, that [email protected] brings the average up to about .123.  If its by trades, then it's a bit lower, closer to .11 (I'm approximating).

If anyone wants to drive the buyback price up to .2, they should try to get all the lower asks cancelled.  Then place an ask for at least .16 and have someone else buy at that price.  The Aug 4 trades fall out of the 120 hour window tomorrow (the last one at 20:00 glbse time).  Then 120% x .16 yields the .2 btc ipo price.

Put the word out not to sell into bids below .16 as well.

Buying all the shares under .2 would take about 250 btc at the moment, but would only get the weighted average to about 0.135413209.  You'd have to spend 472.8 btc and buy up through the .2349 ask to raise the average to .16  Still a profitable move, since you'd be getting .2 for shares that cost you .16 on average.

Likely the issuer has shares he could dump to lower the average as well.

Oh, and I'm not advocating manipulating the price, rather posting this as a thought exercise.


donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 08, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
So, do we buy it up to 0.2 and keep it there, or will the buyback be at 0.2 already?
It will be as according to contract, so it will be bound to the five day average of the bond.
I am still waiting for confirmation from JRO for a buyback.
//DeaDTerra
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
August 08, 2012, 05:46:15 AM
So, do we buy it up to 0.2 and keep it there, or will the buyback be at 0.2 already?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
August 04, 2012, 08:55:12 AM
Since issuer abandoned development of this project shortly after issuing the asset to focus on something else, the only fair resolution would be is a buyback at original IPO price
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Activity: 686
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Wat
August 04, 2012, 03:11:58 AM
I am tired of this bullshit both as a investor and as a middle man stuck in between this shit.
I will be talking to both parties and see if we can solve this so that everyone including the investors will get happy.
I will be pushing for a buy back as this is obviously not working out...
//DeaDTerra

DeadTerra, my unhappiness in this is not directed at you and I appreciate you're in a crappy situation as you note. 

+1

We know who the responsible party is here. Im becoming unimpressed with this guy hiding behind trusted users instead of gaining his own reputation.


I have now talked to Alberto whos up for either a buy back or a trade in for BDT bonds. I am trying to get a hold of JRO still no answer though, give me a bit more time. He's probably busy, but he will get online sooner or later.
//DeaDTerra

Thanks for your work DT.
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 04, 2012, 03:10:03 AM
I am tired of this bullshit both as a investor and as a middle man stuck in between this shit.
I will be talking to both parties and see if we can solve this so that everyone including the investors will get happy.
I will be pushing for a buy back as this is obviously not working out...
//DeaDTerra

DeadTerra, my unhappiness in this is not directed at you and I appreciate you're in a crappy situation as you note. 

+1

We know who the responsible party is here. Im becoming unimpressed with this guy hiding behind trusted users instead of gaining his own reputation.


I have now talked to Alberto whos up for either a buy back or a trade in for BDT bonds. I am trying to get a hold of JRO still no answer though, give me a bit more time. He's probably busy, but he will get online sooner or later.
//DeaDTerra
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Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Wat
August 03, 2012, 05:55:35 PM
I am tired of this bullshit both as a investor and as a middle man stuck in between this shit.
I will be talking to both parties and see if we can solve this so that everyone including the investors will get happy.
I will be pushing for a buy back as this is obviously not working out...
//DeaDTerra

DeadTerra, my unhappiness in this is not directed at you and I appreciate you're in a crappy situation as you note. 

+1

We know who the responsible party is here. Im becoming unimpressed with this guy hiding behind trusted users instead of gaining his own reputation.

hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
August 03, 2012, 05:50:14 PM
I am tired of this bullshit both as a investor and as a middle man stuck in between this shit.
I will be talking to both parties and see if we can solve this so that everyone including the investors will get happy.
I will be pushing for a buy back as this is obviously not working out...
//DeaDTerra

DeadTerra, my unhappiness in this is not directed at you and I appreciate you're in a crappy situation as you note. 
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Wat
August 03, 2012, 10:04:45 AM

 The short story is that he is involved with some of his family's hotels and has founded the failed startups Enso and Wozad.



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Alberto Armandi - Issuer
Email: [email protected]
GTalk: [email protected]
Forum: bitdaytrade
Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=41459791

Is the guy. Anyone want to start digging ?
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
August 03, 2012, 09:51:10 AM
I would like to know which other projects especially ones that are listed or due to be listed on GLBSE are these people involved with. Does any one have a list?

BDT for one. (And I must add that, with Bitcoinica fiasco unfolding and HYIP accusations to BDT (albeit baseless), the situation with REBATE doesn't reflect well on bitdaytrade.com at all.)
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