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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

Are you ready to face it? This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and uncontrolled inflation and other factors. if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet. what steps will be taken to secure assets to avoid unwanted risks

Nobody can be 100% prepared for the future. If we are heading towards stagflation the times will be hard.
I can't understand your question. What do you mean by "to secure assets"? Securing assets from what? Theft? Going Bankrupt?
Unfortunately many investors will have to sell their high risks assets(including cryptocurrencies) so there won't be any chance for bullish crypto markets in the short term. I will keep HODLing Bitcoins even if the BTC price drops to 10K USD or below. I might stop accumulating Bitcoins for a while and start buying other assets, like precious metals for example.
I'm a moderate pessimist, but I don't usually trust all the "doom & gloom prophets". Maybe 2023 won't be that bad. Who knows...

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Government reports in my country state that national economic recession will soon occur and we must prepare, especially since many subsidies that will be reduced or even eliminated so that it makes the burden of life more difficult.

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Quote from: lizarder on October 15, 2022, 02:56:51 PM

It's probably best to switch to bitcoin investing, as in general this won't have much impact, or start switching to buying assets like land and gold.
These three models tend to maintain currency values, both in the short and long term, although the impact of inflation also affects in a much smaller context, from what I have seen and experienced, these three investment models are more likely to be practical and can maintain currency values.
Although sometimes experiencing a slowdown in achieving results.

If it's targeted at keeping an existing amount of money while hoping for a bigger income, then obviously it's a very good option and it's not worth mentioning too late in achieving the results because the main goal is to save money on an investment that's worth as you say it is.

This is because the value that exists in Bitcoin, land and gold tends to change and can get better when there are so many people who are after it, whereas ordinary currency does not have such properties and even feels like a little when there is a lot of goods and food needed. every day the price increases in the market.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

Are you ready to face it? This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and uncontrolled inflation and other factors.

Inflation is the current problem that we are facing now and it's hard fo cope up if you're not taking action to help yourself as an individual.

Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet. what steps will be taken to secure assets to avoid unwanted risks

Just like what earlier replies have pointed out, diversification is a good idea to lessen the risk. In times like this it's a must to study the investment on where you will put your money because the result is uncertain. For me, investing in gold is still reliable, I have been doing this for years already. Even the price increase is not as fast like other investment out there, still you're at ease that you can use it at anytime through pawning or selling. On the other side, I have Bitcoin, it's a secure way to keep our money, though it's an speculative asset and risky. But if you believe in its future, and prepared whatever the outcome is, then it's a good investment that we should not miss. Nevertheless we should find ways that can benefit us for our own good.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet.

If as an investor you need to sell at this time of bear market to get liquidity, you have done something wrong. A good investor has the liquidity available to go through a good season without having to sell anything and also usually gets cash flow from his investments. For example, they have shares that pay dividends, and no matter how much the share price has fallen, they continue to pay dividends, giving you cash flow (with some exceptions, as in bear markets certain companies reduce or cancel their dividends).

The mentality you express is typical of the retail investor who is driven by emotions when it comes to investing, which is usually a recipe for disaster.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on October 15, 2022, 03:40:44 PM

Then what is the solution? As countries in the world agree to lock down their people, so we agree that Bitcoin is the king of crypto, and make Bitcoin the main investment base, so the whole world will invest there, and the price of Bitcoin will be high.

It's the main base for us since we've been here and we know how important bitcoin to us. But to some investors that wants to diversify their investments, they'll not going to all in for bitcoin.
They'd go for traditional investing assets and diversification is what they do. I've seen people that don't like to invest in bitcoin and they're telling they want to play on the safer side which is to go for the usual investments, not crypto.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 16, 2022, 03:16:02 PM

Asset are always at risk, even the choicest asset is still at risk of depreciation, a great fear of mine right now is holding my local currency (Naira) its depreciating fast and making people's saving worthless.

I don't know if you are correct about Covid 19 still having an effect on the inflation being experienced by many countries of the world.
I can even support the idea of anyone says the war between Ukraine and Russia has a hand in the inflation, regardless I still believe measure can be taking to curtail the amount of damages.

why not convert some of your fiat to other assets like gold (i.e. in the form of jewelry), real-estate and other tangible assets that you think won't be badly affected by inflation? because for example most real-estate properties increase its value depending on where it is located.
the inflation that we are experiencing is the combined effect of various factors and the major ones are owed to covid pandemic, and this russia-ukraine war. the price of crude oil across the globe increased when this war happened. and so the impact is like domino effect when it comes to other goods and services.

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Inflation is a part, along with it we've got floods, food shortage, war, oil crisis and more other factors that add up to the bad economic situation. Covid-19 have decreased alot and when the world was moving towards the recovery phase, we encountered war that led to various other social and economic issues. Nowhere we can have the money safe than a no custodial wallet. Here also the market volatility holds the risk of decline in the portfolio, but if you have the ability to hold then it is the right place.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and uncontrolled inflation and other factors.

Uncontrolled inflation is not a thing that the government is not really working on but because war is ravaged the whole country the economy is falling beyond control this looking like nothing is working. This is not a covid-19 pandemic particular issue because it is past now, the government should have less of war and I believe certain things will become regulated by themselves if less spending wastefully and corrupt mind in official of government.

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Asset are always at risk, even the choicest asset is still at risk of depreciation, a great fear of mine right now is holding my local currency (Naira) its depreciating fast and making people's saving worthless.

I don't know if you are correct about Covid 19 still having an effect on the inflation being experienced by many countries of the world.
I can even support the idea of anyone says the war between Ukraine and Russia has a hand in the inflation, regardless I still believe measure can be taking to curtail the amount of damages.

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This situation pervades almost all countries of the world. My strategy at the moment is to hold the important assets that rank well in the market and have a future when the bear market ends. On the other hand, this is to wait until the situation improves. At this time, small deals can be made on some of the shitcoin that They can make significant price spikes for a short period and then disappear.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

Are you ready to face it? This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and uncontrolled inflation and other factors. if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet. what steps will be taken to secure assets to avoid unwanted risks

Covid 19 happened in 2019, so it's called Covid 19. And now it's 2022, so it's like we say Covid 22, or we wait a few more months we'll say Covid 23. Maybe this looks weird with what I said, but the fact is that . What I want to say is don't get carried away by the trauma of the Covid problem. That is the past. Maybe the rest you have to understand what's behind Covid 19. Then why the economic crisis occurs, because people are locked down, so that the economic cycle stops. And all countries in the world agreed to confine their people.

Then what is the solution? As countries in the world agree to lock down their people, so we agree that Bitcoin is the king of crypto, and make Bitcoin the main investment base, so the whole world will invest there, and the price of Bitcoin will be high. When they are able to make something small into something bigger, then we are also able to make Bitcoin a bigger investment.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 15, 2022, 03:08:24 PM

Is buying land a good option? Are there not some certain risks involved in buying land? Like devaluation or inability for it to appreciate in the future due to long lasting inflation. I am just thinking about this to know if to buy land is a good idea. I need to diversify, the only investment plan I know how it works is bitcoin.

As an area become more industrialized, the more the land in that area become more expensive. The lands in an area once a village before that become town appreciates in value in the process of the area becoming town. Likewise the appreciation as it is changing from town to city. Even lands available in cities (if there are still some) also still further appreciates in value. Buying land is an investment.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic

COVID-19 by this time? That should be in the past. But your question is still valid because fiat value always depreciate in long term.

Diversify.

Buy land, gold, bitcoin and other valuable assets you know that their worth will keep appreciating in long term. Also go for lucrative businesses in your area.

Is buying land a good option? Are there not some certain risks involved in buying land? Like devaluation or inability for it to appreciate in the future due to long lasting inflation. I am just thinking about this to know if to buy land is a good idea. I need to diversify, the only investment plan I know how it works is bitcoin.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

Are you ready to face it? This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and uncontrolled inflation and other factors.

World economic growth has decreased due to COVID-19, resulting in massive inflation in both developed and developing countries.
The impact of COVID-19 on economic growth is expanding, forcing countries to formulate prevention formulas. Inflation occurs because the money supply is not balanced, namely the increase in the price of goods continuously within a certain period of time.

Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet. what steps will be taken to secure assets to avoid unwanted risks

It's probably best to switch to bitcoin investing, as in general this won't have much impact, or start switching to buying assets like land and gold.
These three models tend to maintain currency values, both in the short and long term, although the impact of inflation also affects in a much smaller context, from what I have seen and experienced, these three investment models are more likely to be practical and can maintain currency values.
Although sometimes experiencing a slowdown in achieving results.

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The last few months have been quite tough due to inflation. The constant increase in living costs made it a lot tougher to save, making it almost impossible to set money aside in some specific months. Personally, I don't think I'll face any significant issues due to the upcoming recession. My savings are definitely going to be affected, but all in all, I'll be fine.

I won't allocate any more money for investments; this isn't the perfect moment for the average Joe. As long as I'm not touching any BTC earnings deriving from the signature campaign, I'm fine, since I'm holding till the end of the recession and bear market in hopes of a better future. My Bitcoin is safe in my wallet, nothing will make me turn them to fiat. People were calling cryptocurrencies volatile but look at their fiat currencies. Euro plummeted, BTC and USD in stablecoins look the safest for now.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

Are you ready to face it? This condition is caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and uncontrolled inflation and other factors. if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet. what steps will be taken to secure assets to avoid unwanted risks

The answer has always been the same, when facing inflation you need to take refuge in assets that are a store of value, and what assets are those? Gold, real estate, bitcoin and anything which can retain its value when inflation goes completely out of control, and depending on how bad you think things could get even food could be a good store of value in the country where you live, but the most important thing is to avoid fiat and to have debts on fiat currencies.

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I will not withdraw my investment during the current recession due to prolonged inflation of course this is a threat to us but for me we must be able to face it calmly and not tense.

I will take a better step and buy something more valuable and stable for the long term, buy land, gold, property, that's one of them and still I have to have spare funds to face the reality later in the event of the most severe crisis at least the funds The reserve can supplement in our life for its needs and investment is not compromised.

Bitcoin is also still very feasible to be made a long-term investment in this recession, I don't think about other news that corners Bitcoin but for sure I will hold Bitcoin as an investment that has become safe for me.

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Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

Are you ready to face it?

Yes, in this case I am much more prepared than I was for the 2007 crisis. I was younger then too.

In fact, we have been in an inflation crisis for some time now and I have hardly noticed it personally, because even though prices have gone up, I have been able to save and invest more

Quote from: bastian466 on October 13, 2022, 08:58:10 AM

if you as an investor need to withdraw investment assets or move to other investments or just keep quiet. what steps will be taken to secure assets to avoid unwanted risks

I have already taken the steps. I have a good emergency fund between cash, money in my bank account, some gold and Bitcoin. Apart from that also investments.

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Quote from: bittraffic on October 14, 2022, 11:28:21 PM

And also stop buying anything for now. If you have your assets in USDT for now, it's good to just try not to buy anything and wait for the world to calm down. No buying of real properties, bonds, and stocks. But it's a good thing to physically buy gold and silver once this heat stops because I think we are going back to currencies backed by gold and silver.

The other strategy that I've been seeing lately being done by the rich folks is the opposite. They're buying everything that are right now cheaper than before.

This is when they're building their wealth and getting richer. It's because that they've got cash ready to pick up those assets that are cheaper due to the situation.

You're saying that don't buy anything but suggests to buy precious metals. As for real estate, I would agree to just wait a little bit longer because its bubble might burst and I'm surprise to see that most real estates in my location are expensive.

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