Topic: Global untraceable phone calls - is it still a good idea? - page 2. (Read 473 times)
Isn't something like Voice Over Internet Portal (VOIP) services? A lot of service provider like this are on the market where number isn't traceable normally. This means the call will be from random numbers or from unknown numbers. If VOIP is traceable calls then I don't know how will you avoid it. Or anything special there how it will be untraceable? I think you will need legal permission to provide this service which would make it traceable.
Agree with hugeblack, you probably don't need to market a product that makes untraceable phone calls -- never mind proving that it can't be traced (I think it's not true), but if the authorities chase a person who happens to have used your product, you'll not want to deal with that headache.
But if your product just allows anyone anywhere to make a phone call, leave messages (and collect texts/voice?) from the browser without using a phone? Now that I'd pay myself. Countless situations where I needed to make a call or leave a message when roaming's not working or simply not possible with bad signals.
And that means it's a viable business.
But if your product just allows anyone anywhere to make a phone call, leave messages (and collect texts/voice?) from the browser without using a phone? Now that I'd pay myself. Countless situations where I needed to make a call or leave a message when roaming's not working or simply not possible with bad signals.
And that means it's a viable business.
Also, worth considering is the legality of this wherever you live or are hosting this service. Wouldn't want you to land up in trouble, simply because you didn't get some legal advice. If it's legal in your jurisdiction, then I say this could be a decent service for those that want to keep their privacy. Although, the only issue is you'll likely have a lot of malicious users using the service, which could potentially cause some issues for you. Just something to think about.
Phone calls are a pretty niche department. I'll echo what has said above SMS numbers that you can use, would have far more use.
Phone calls are a pretty niche department. I'll echo what has said above SMS numbers that you can use, would have far more use.
If you mean about the technical aspects related to accepting payments with Bitcoin or using the Lightning Network, then BTCpayserver[1] made all these things possible with zero fees and no need for that technical knowledge, so I don't think you will face a problem in this regard.
As for WebRTC as a service, I do not expect to get a high return here, but it will be good if you consider it a side project and may cover your basic costs with some profits.
Generally, you can try it. It's something new, but if you can provide a service to call/text to/from regular phone numbers or rent them, you will find more interest.
[1] https://btcpayserver.org/
As for WebRTC as a service, I do not expect to get a high return here, but it will be good if you consider it a side project and may cover your basic costs with some profits.
Generally, you can try it. It's something new, but if you can provide a service to call/text to/from regular phone numbers or rent them, you will find more interest.
[1] https://btcpayserver.org/
So I want to ask you guys if you think this still would be a useful service? I have looked around a bit, and can't really find another site that provides the same service. Is it worth spending time on getting it back up?
I think it's well worth spending time on this, but you need to provide some proof that this is really untraceable phone calls and not something to collect information and spy on people.It all depends how much I would have to pay per minute, but I would use it for some reasonable price.
Problem is that this could be used for some illegal stuff, so it would certainly get attention from regulators and law enforcement at some point.
1. Pay some bitcoin to an address (or in this day and age, why not lightning network).
I would use both Bitcoin and Lightning Network payments, second would be better for privacy in my opinion.2. Cal any international phone number using WebRTC directly from your browser.
What phone number would they get on their caller ID when I call them like this? 
Hello people!
Way back in the day (2014) I created a site called chiliphone.com. I announced it here on the forum as well, in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chiliphonecom-need-feedback-and-help-with-testing-757391, and a bit later it stirred up some discussion in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/int-calls-untraceable-for-sale-programsite-chiliphone-911228.
At the time I didn't think of it as anything but an experiment. After that second post and the article I started to see some traffic though, and it started generating a small but steady stream of deposits. I got a bit scared and stressed out at this point, because I didn't fully trust my underlying tech and program. I took it offline with the intention of refactoring it, and never ended up putting it back up.
So I want to ask you guys if you think this still would be a useful service? I have looked around a bit, and can't really find another site that provides the same service. Is it worth spending time on getting it back up?
To explain very quickly how it worked:
1. Pay some bitcoin to an address (or in this day and age, why not lightning network).
2. Cal any international phone number using WebRTC directly from your browser.
Way back in the day (2014) I created a site called chiliphone.com. I announced it here on the forum as well, in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chiliphonecom-need-feedback-and-help-with-testing-757391, and a bit later it stirred up some discussion in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/int-calls-untraceable-for-sale-programsite-chiliphone-911228.
At the time I didn't think of it as anything but an experiment. After that second post and the article I started to see some traffic though, and it started generating a small but steady stream of deposits. I got a bit scared and stressed out at this point, because I didn't fully trust my underlying tech and program. I took it offline with the intention of refactoring it, and never ended up putting it back up.
So I want to ask you guys if you think this still would be a useful service? I have looked around a bit, and can't really find another site that provides the same service. Is it worth spending time on getting it back up?
To explain very quickly how it worked:
1. Pay some bitcoin to an address (or in this day and age, why not lightning network).
2. Cal any international phone number using WebRTC directly from your browser.
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