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Quote from: Makus on April 05, 2024, 12:42:15 AM

Quote from: synchronym on April 04, 2024, 11:59:42 PM

Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.

I can't say for sure, but most times the reason for increasing your stakes is because of greed and that has gotten lots of gamblers into trouble. As a gambler you should know when to quit gambling no matter the wins at that moment. And one of the way to gamble responsibly is when you stay satisfied with whatever the result is, rather than looking for a way to increase your stake or borrow money to chase your losses. When you gamble responsibly, you'll enjoy the fun that comes from gambling.

Basically those who can gain money by gambling get the fun and if they lose money by gambling then there is never any fun after losing the money. But most of the money that is gained by gambling means that they are losing twice the amount of money that they are gaining. Many people become addicted to gambling by playing gambling for fun. One time it is seen losing their cash money many borrow and gamble and go to gamble by borrowing and endangering their lives so borrowing such money and gambling is never the right decision .

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it's okay to go all in if it was just a normal part of the plan, but out of frustration and you decided to go all in, then that is not wrong. If a casino is rigged or has been manipulating the outcome, then OP is not the only one that is a victim and most likely the casino is not popular or just a new one which might only exist short term. However, if they are legit, you can't think that they are cheating us just because you don't have a winning outcome on a certain session.

Thinking that casino is rigged only because you lost your all-in is. unfortunately, a common practice among among some gamblers. Then they are telling stories like "When I was doing small bets I was winning and once I went all-in, I lost." They think some "program" is watching their bets and reacts accordingly. I think it's called paranoia.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 05, 2024, 12:46:36 AM

The fun are only achieve when we win, yes we are having fun as we gamble but honestly people doesn't feel good if they loss, at least most of us gamblers. So the discipline that is needed when gambling is to only ensure that we don't gamble more than we can afford, but at the end of the day, losing is still painful, but it varies on the amount, losing big, more painful, but losing enough, we can sure eventually move on.

I would say that it depends from a situation a lot. You say there isnt no fun when you lose. But I remember gambling with friends. We were placing bets in online casino. The game was crash if not mistaken. When the rocket flew up, we have started cheering it, but when it exploded, we made fun of the person who placed bet, called him looser and suggested that he should have clicked jump. We wasnt aimed to harm his feeling; all of us were laughing. There are moments when it is fun to lose. If he would go all-in that time, it would be even funnier. (once again we, a company of friends, dont gamble for money)

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Quote from: Makus on April 04, 2024, 11:53:46 PM

When you're on the Lossing side this thought always come to your mind, but it's not true. These casino games are built using random selection of cards but I believe the possibility of you winning is minimal. Most time the reason we thinks we are being cheated is because the casino are the one handling the card you selected and the result, so definitely they'll make your wining possiblity minimal. The only thing left for you to do at this point is to gamble responsibly and stay discipline. lucks aren't always on our side.

The casino games were not built to make the outcomes majorly be on our side, I doubt if they make a chance available for us the gamblers to get wins if they weren't under regulation by the authority in the jurisdiction they occupy. It's the responsibility of the gambler not to be overwhelmed by a streak of two or more wins to decide to go all in with the money at hand as the next result of the game is certain especially when the hedge has never been on our side but the casinos.

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Quote from: Makus on April 05, 2024, 12:42:15 AM

Quote from: synchronym on April 04, 2024, 11:59:42 PM

Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.

I can't say for sure, but most times the reason for increasing your stakes is because of greed and that has gotten lots of gamblers into trouble. As a gambler you should know when to quit gambling no matter the wins at that moment. And one of the way to gamble responsibly is when you stay satisfied with whatever the result is, rather than looking for a way to increase your stake or borrow money to chase your losses. When you gamble responsibly, you'll enjoy the fun that comes from gambling.

The fun are only achieve when we win, yes we are having fun as we gamble but honestly people doesn't feel good if they loss, at least most of us gamblers. So the discipline that is needed when gambling is to only ensure that we don't gamble more than we can afford, but at the end of the day, losing is still painful, but it varies on the amount, losing big, more painful, but losing enough, we can sure eventually move on.

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Quote from: synchronym on April 04, 2024, 11:59:42 PM

Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.

I can't say for sure, but most times the reason for increasing your stakes is because of greed and that has gotten lots of gamblers into trouble. As a gambler you should know when to quit gambling no matter the wins at that moment. And one of the way to gamble responsibly is when you stay satisfied with whatever the result is, rather than looking for a way to increase your stake or borrow money to chase your losses. When you gamble responsibly, you'll enjoy the fun that comes from gambling.

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Quote from: Makus on April 04, 2024, 11:53:46 PM

When you're on the Lossing side this thought always come to your mind, but it's not true. These casino games are built using random selection of cards but I believe the possibility of you winning is minimal. Most time the reason we thinks we are being cheated is because the casino are the one handling the card you selected and the result, so definitely they'll make your wining possiblity minimal. The only thing left for you to do at this point is to gamble responsibly and stay discipline. lucks aren't always on our side.

Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.

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When you're on the Lossing side this thought always come to your mind, but it's not true. These casino games are built using random selection of cards but I believe the possibility of you winning is minimal. Most time the reason we thinks we are being cheated is because the casino are the one handling the card you selected and the result, so definitely they'll make your wining possiblity minimal. The only thing left for you to do at this point is to gamble responsibly and stay discipline. lucks aren't always on our side.

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Quote from: libert19 on March 28, 2024, 10:17:34 PM

I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

that is a very tricky one mate because it is a very rare to happen that there is the same
ace outcome from Hi-Lo so indeed that you are being tricked lol, and another thing is that you
have taken all your luck when you put all the funds in that single bet in which for me something
like a greedy decision , If I were to decide ? i think betting half of my money is enough to take
that rare chances.

Quote from: Nrcewker on April 04, 2024, 09:18:24 PM

Don’t worry OP, you are not only the one who faced this type of situation.

its a normal thing in regular gamblers to have this kind of decisions and indeed that mostly
it is regrettable and will teach them a lesson of their life.

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Quote from: taufik123 on April 04, 2024, 09:33:59 PM

Quote from: Pumared on April 04, 2024, 08:54:49 PM

Yes, sometimes you get frustrated and end up not following through on what you promised yourself. So yes, discipline is something very complicated to have and even more difficult to maintain. So, we must always bet with caution and discipline

If from the beginning it has become a habit to be undisciplined with yourself, it will be difficult to change.
Not thinking about how it will affect when using all the money for betting, there is no strategy whatsoever so it will lose it all.

You are right about this but unfortunately, that is the process for most gambler - they got excited from the beginning after few wins, they increase the amount for betting and are eager to win the jackpot. At this point, they ditch everything risk management as the greed level become too high. But gradually, gambling will begin to humble them through parallel losses, some will be caused by minor mistakes. After series of losses, some will quit and run while some are still able to continue gambling but this time with fear and humility.

Quote from: taufik123 on April 04, 2024, 09:33:59 PM

I myself limit to betting large amounts, because I realize there must be limits that I should not cross.
When you get too wrapped up in betting and gaming, then there are no limits to remember, self-control is important.

It just depends on personal preference as I still bet large amounts depending on the games. If it is a high probability match like Liverpool match yesterday, large amount will be put in depending though if I am adding other matches to raise the odds. Gambling is just about each individual finding out their suitable means of making progress and also protecting their minds and finances.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on April 04, 2024, 09:18:24 PM

Gambling in casino always depends on luck. If you are lucky, then you win. If you are slightly unlucky also, then no matter whatever the odds is, even 1.01x can make you lose the money. Don’t worry OP, you are not only the one who faced this type of situation. I have done it many times and often regretted on my decisions. To counter this we need to gamble with cool atmosphere with calm mindset. We just need to gamble with the money that we can afford to lose.

It does no matter how unlikely an event could be, if the chances are not zero then given enough time you are sure to watch such an event, that is what happened to the OP, the chances of losing their money on that way were low, but as long as they kept playing and making the same move, sooner or later they would have lost their money this way.

So it is important to not blame casinos when that happens, as it is unlikely a casino will take the time to manipulate the results for a single player, when they can simply wait for the probability to work its magic.

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Quote from: Pumared on April 04, 2024, 08:54:49 PM

Yes, sometimes you get frustrated and end up not following through on what you promised yourself. So yes, discipline is something very complicated to have and even more difficult to maintain. So, we must always bet with caution and discipline

If from the beginning it has become a habit to be undisciplined with yourself, it will be difficult to change.
Not thinking about how it will affect when using all the money for betting, there is no strategy whatsoever so it will lose it all.

Feeling frustrated and eventually becoming a new problem.
I myself limit to betting large amounts, because I realize there must be limits that I should not cross.
When you get too wrapped up in betting and gaming, then there are no limits to remember, self-control is important.

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Gambling in casino always depends on luck. If you are lucky, then you win. If you are slightly unlucky also, then no matter whatever the odds is, even 1.01x can make you lose the money. Don’t worry OP, you are not only the one who faced this type of situation. I have done it many times and often regretted on my decisions. To counter this we need to gamble with cool atmosphere with calm mindset. We just need to gamble with the money that we can afford to lose.

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Quote from: masulum on April 04, 2024, 08:46:08 AM

Quote from: Pumared on April 04, 2024, 08:19:49 AM

Exactly, in every situation you need a method to bet. And you need to have discipline to be able to follow this on all occasions and avoid making an all win in these situations as much as possible.

Discipline is not an easy thing, perhaps many people on this forum say they can be disciplined. However, not impossible when they are playing forget about that. Sometimes, the various methods and strategies that are applied are violated by themselves when they already have the desire to play. From initially want to bet once, he wanted more. When he lose, apply martingale, the result is double the loss. This then affects emotions and makes gamblers undisciplined when gambling.

Yes, sometimes you get frustrated and end up not following through on what you promised yourself. So yes, discipline is something very complicated to have and even more difficult to maintain. So, we must always bet with caution and discipline

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Quote from: libert19 on March 28, 2024, 10:17:34 PM

I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

It sounds like you had quite the rollercoaster playing Hi-Lo! You're right, the odds might have been in your favor, but as with any game of chance, the unexpected can happen. The possibility of drawing another Ace was slim, but as you've experienced, not impossible. While it's natural to feel frustrated after a big loss, it's important to remember that part of the thrill of gambling comes from its unpredictability.
Keep your spirits up, and maybe the next game will swing in your favor!

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Quote from: arjunmujay on April 03, 2024, 04:44:29 PM

So don't go All In on gambling games. Use a good strategy so you don't face immediate defeat. Indeed, if you are lucky you can immediately double your money, but that only happens 25% of the time. the rest will definitely lose.

I agree with this. Let say we turn the table around. You still bet all in. And instead of losing the turn, you won. Kiss

Will that be still manipulated or your own luck pushing? In gabling the result is very random. And all of your rationalization are not true and only exist in your head.

So if you are exposing all your money, what you basically saying is that: "Here are all my money take that!" and the casinos will be willingly take that. Because that's a free money for them. Instead, bet with even sizes and let the compounding do the work for. This make take a little longer but at least you are most profitable with less stress thinking whether what you are playing is rigged or manipulated.

someone like this is also quite wise in the game. because it won't spend your money directly. At least there is still a chance in a fairly long gambling period.
and if possible, if you win, even if it's a small amount, it's better to withdraw your balance and secure it so that it doesn't become greedy which can cause you to get nothing but lose all your money and winnings.

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Quote from: Pumared on April 04, 2024, 08:19:49 AM

Exactly, in every situation you need a method to bet. And you need to have discipline to be able to follow this on all occasions and avoid making an all win in these situations as much as possible.

Discipline is not an easy thing, perhaps many people on this forum say they can be disciplined. However, not impossible when they are playing forget about that. Sometimes, the various methods and strategies that are applied are violated by themselves when they already have the desire to play. From initially want to bet once, he wanted more. When he lose, apply martingale, the result is double the loss. This then affects emotions and makes gamblers undisciplined when gambling.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 02, 2024, 06:14:05 PM

Quote from: libert19 on March 28, 2024, 10:17:34 PM

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

You have to remove those thoughts about your losses and always shift the blame to yourself for going all in instead of the casino.

Regardless of the low probability of losing your bet, it's still a bad decision to go all in because you'll quickly lose more of your deposits before recovering your losses.

Sometimes that's how luck works, they'll hit you with a loss when you least expect it, and once you sink in more hours, you'll know these low-probability outcomes happen more often.

There are many disadvantages to going All-In, starting from the fact that mathematically the distance of game outcomes decreases, ending with the fact that this is an unwise way to lose everything at once. I think this is the way of those who have lost enough money and are now heavily influenced by morality.
I think if someone is experiencing this, it's better to stop and go home. In any case, this gambler will then realize that he has saved himself from making a mistake.

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Going all in doesn't mean that the gambler does not stand the chance of loosing the bet, this only have to depend on whether we are good technically in the kind of game we are playing or on the bet we are staking, how lucky we appear and how we understand the skills and techniques required in betting any type of games, we already should have it on our mind that irrespective of the gambling strategy used, we still falls under the category of winning or loosing at the same time.

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Quote from: libert19 on March 28, 2024, 10:17:34 PM

I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

I just commented on another topic about all-in, but the scenario was very different: betting everything when the balance is practically zero, in order to make your last bet.
It seems rigged, because we usually win this type of all-in, just to keep playing a little longer.

However, going all-in when you are winning is something very risky and should always be avoided, even if the chances of winning are great.

Always try to reserve 30% of your balance for a possible loss, as you will feel much better knowing that you can still recover the lost money, than the opposite if you missed out on that 30%.

Play responsibly, always anticipating the worst and what you are willing to lose.

I think that if you have little balance, you should always follow your initial strategy. You start it and you must finish it. If you start with fixed bet amounts, end that way too. This avoids emotional exhaustion and you have a method, the chances of loss are lower.

The most important thing is for us to be wise and be able to follow strategy that would keep earning us money.
There are some patterns if gambling that would always yield heartbreak and the only way we could avoid that is to keep making sure we follow risk management. This is going to help us and prevent us from losing the entire bankroll. There are people that would rather save their bankroll from crashing or being exhausted than to gamble carelessly and end up losing their funds. One just have to be wise and not to be greedy. Greed has made many gambling fo bankruptcy because of the urge to get everything at once without thinking of the advantage and disadvantages.

Exactly, in every situation you need a method to bet. And you need to have discipline to be able to follow this on all occasions and avoid making an all win in these situations as much as possible.

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