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Topic: Going back down to 230, then 180, then 150, then 66? (Read 4418 times)

hero member
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Heh, today's cheap coin can be tomorrow's expensive coin Tongue

Not that cheap though...  Hoping this would go below 200.  But support at 235 - 238 is strong with this one. 
It can break easily.

People have said this about $240 also and I assumed that support to actually be even more important than $230. I believe $220 is a big support again, if we go below that... may Satoshi have mercy on us!
legendary
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Someone out there is buying a lot at these levels.  Again... BTC will go sideways for a while.
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sr. member
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Looking at the chart, I think 230 is the key support level. If it breaks through this resistance, there will be more downside coming our way. Trying to be optimistic at the moment. Currently price is holding strong at 235 but anything can still happen right now.
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Heh, today's cheap coin can be tomorrow's expensive coin Tongue

Not that cheap though...  Hoping this would go below 200.  But support at 235 - 238 is strong with this one. 
It can break easily.
legendary
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Heh, today's cheap coin can be tomorrow's expensive coin Tongue

Not that cheap though...  Hoping this would go below 200.  But support at 235 - 238 is strong with this one. 

Does 232 count as breaking support?
yep
and 220 too
legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
Heh, today's cheap coin can be tomorrow's expensive coin Tongue

Not that cheap though...  Hoping this would go below 200.  But support at 235 - 238 is strong with this one. 

Does 232 count as breaking support?
sr. member
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If this support breaks, i think we will see 210-215
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
Heh, today's cheap coin can be tomorrow's expensive coin Tongue

Not that cheap though...  Hoping this would go below 200.  But support at 235 - 238 is strong with this one. 
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
never sell at a loss when a crash happens you dont sell... you buy, and you buy as much as you can

Lol...  Talk about desperate...
legendary
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Bitcoin should stabilize at around $100. I can see bitcoin's bottom at $20-$50 and spiking to 190-200 and then stabilizing at around $100.

What is going to happen with asics if that's the case? Will it will be profitable to produce them? Or the profit margin when selling is so big that they will just reduce the price, because I doubt asics will just become THAT more efficient over night to keep up with the price.

that scenario is unlikely, miners are not that stupid they aren't dumping so much now, they have already made roi and they electricity is very cheap, no reason to help early adopters to crash the market, thus price will not fall to that point

and if it happen, it would simply force the smallest farm to exit out of the mining game, price also is based on btc so they will cost less

The miners still hold a very minority of the coins.  The majority of coins are still held by early adopters.
legendary
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Bitcoin should stabilize at around $100. I can see bitcoin's bottom at $20-$50 and spiking to 190-200 and then stabilizing at around $100.

What is going to happen with asics if that's the case? Will it will be profitable to produce them? Or the profit margin when selling is so big that they will just reduce the price, because I doubt asics will just become THAT more efficient over night to keep up with the price.

that scenario is unlikely, miners are not that stupid they aren't dumping so much now, they have already made roi and they electricity is very cheap, no reason to help early adopters to crash the market, thus price will not fall to that point

and if it happen, it would simply force the smallest farm to exit out of the mining game, price also is based on btc so they will cost less
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Bitcoin should stabilize at around $100. I can see bitcoin's bottom at $20-$50 and spiking to 190-200 and then stabilizing at around $100.

What is going to happen with asics if that's the case? Will it will be profitable to produce them? Or the profit margin when selling is so big that they will just reduce the price, because I doubt asics will just become THAT more efficient over night to keep up with the price.
legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
Bitcoin should stabilize at around $100. I can see bitcoin's bottom at $20-$50 and spiking to 190-200 and then stabilizing at around $100.
hero member
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never sell at a loss when a crash happens you dont sell... you buy, and you buy as much as you can

This is not a rule never sell at a loss, the smartest have at times had to sell at a loss to be able to continue trading with something that is not sinking! With you mentality when a crash happens and you keep buying, what happens when the crash is to major to bounce back anywhere near where it was? If you see a crash coming sell at a loss and buy back at a later date when it has balanced out and you end up with more without risking more. The only guys that can hold all the way down are the guys who brought in early on.

I had the mentality to never sell at a loss when I got into alts, and held some until they became near worthless. I now wish I had got 50% OF my money back when I had the chance. Although bitcoin's not the same as a shit alt I now consider selling at a loss if the price crashes far enough.

I too was foolish enough to think (even as the price was dropping) that I could at least break even.  This never happened, adn ended up selling for a loss last summer.  In hindsight it was a good call becasue we've only gone down since then.

The worst thing you can do is listen to the super-bulls on here who "guarantee" that the price will go back through the roof.  Most of them probably hold very little to begin with, or have been holding since 1btc was less than $1.  They seem to think holding while suffering losses makes them superior to others, but really it only makes them look like fools.

At least you now no that you do not need to hold all the way to worthlessness, not saying bitcoin will go that way but if i sensed it then i would sell even if i missed the first get out and i was losing. Bitcoin is very similar to the alts it just has more adoption and more people willing to keep it propped up, could be why this dump since 1000+ has taken so long we keep getting fresh fools willing to buy where the alts don't they just get forgotten.

That is the thing we talk ourself into believing that it will break even or go to profit but that is us putting our hopes & emotions on the market and that will never work out well because the market does not care for our emotions. So there you have your own proof sometimes it is good to sell at a loss. I have done quite a few times on alts and then i ended up with profit after buying back at the bottom and holding double what i would have had if i held all the way.

So many bulls are living in the previous bubble and not looking at reality again kind of putting their emotions on the market and they believe we will be hitting the moon every 5-10dollar rise in price

legendary
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You cant analyse bitcoin the same way you analyse some more established stocks or markets. Bitcoin is in early stages, and extremely volatile,
so the most TA wont get u far most of the time,we are dependant on news and legal issues every day, and that is how you can predict the movement most efficiently.
There is a fact that will always move bitcoin forward, and that is this very speculation, because every trader is here to make a profit, and you cant make a longterm profits by slamming the price to the ground.
While there is money to be made from bitcoin, price will ping pong, but its just a matter of year when it will have its next eruption, and we wont see these prices ever again.

cheers

Thats a very good point about TA in early stage markets.  Surely these TA models are based on the mean average of all markets in history which might not be as good for early stage markets.  Even if thats not the case, how often are the early stage markets revolutionary designs like bitcoin?  TA might struggle.
legendary
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Bitcoin is now under $250 threshold again... How awesome was couple weeks ago when we thought that price will pierce $300 and suddenly everything shattered. Maybe we reached 'optimal' price for bitcoins? And value around $250 will be standard bitcoin price of the future?
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
never sell at a loss when a crash happens you dont sell... you buy, and you buy as much as you can

This is not a rule never sell at a loss, the smartest have at times had to sell at a loss to be able to continue trading with something that is not sinking! With you mentality when a crash happens and you keep buying, what happens when the crash is to major to bounce back anywhere near where it was? If you see a crash coming sell at a loss and buy back at a later date when it has balanced out and you end up with more without risking more. The only guys that can hold all the way down are the guys who brought in early on.

I think we now know he was one of the holders who didn't think of selling at 1K+
hero member
Activity: 560
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never sell at a loss when a crash happens you dont sell... you buy, and you buy as much as you can

This is not a rule never sell at a loss, the smartest have at times had to sell at a loss to be able to continue trading with something that is not sinking! With you mentality when a crash happens and you keep buying, what happens when the crash is to major to bounce back anywhere near where it was? If you see a crash coming sell at a loss and buy back at a later date when it has balanced out and you end up with more without risking more. The only guys that can hold all the way down are the guys who brought in early on.

I had the mentality to never sell at a loss when I got into alts, and held some until they became near worthless. I now wish I had got 50% OF my money back when I had the chance. Although bitcoin's not the same as a shit alt I now consider selling at a loss if the price crashes far enough.

I too was foolish enough to think (even as the price was dropping) that I could at least break even.  This never happened, adn ended up selling for a loss last summer.  In hindsight it was a good call becasue we've only gone down since then.

The worst thing you can do is listen to the super-bulls on here who "guarantee" that the price will go back through the roof.  Most of them probably hold very little to begin with, or have been holding since 1btc was less than $1.  They seem to think holding while suffering losses makes them superior to others, but really it only makes them look like fools.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 2846
never sell at a loss when a crash happens you dont sell... you buy, and you buy as much as you can

This is not a rule never sell at a loss, the smartest have at times had to sell at a loss to be able to continue trading with something that is not sinking! With you mentality when a crash happens and you keep buying, what happens when the crash is to major to bounce back anywhere near where it was? If you see a crash coming sell at a loss and buy back at a later date when it has balanced out and you end up with more without risking more. The only guys that can hold all the way down are the guys who brought in early on.

I had the mentality to never sell at a loss when I got into alts, and held some until they became near worthless. I now wish I had got 50% OF my money back when I had the chance. Although bitcoin's not the same as a shit alt I now consider selling at a loss if the price crashes far enough.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
never sell at a loss when a crash happens you dont sell... you buy, and you buy as much as you can

This is not a rule never sell at a loss, the smartest have at times had to sell at a loss to be able to continue trading with something that is not sinking! With you mentality when a crash happens and you keep buying, what happens when the crash is to major to bounce back anywhere near where it was? If you see a crash coming sell at a loss and buy back at a later date when it has balanced out and you end up with more without risking more. The only guys that can hold all the way down are the guys who brought in early on.
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