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Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 1301. (Read 2032274 times)

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June 12, 2013, 07:37:28 AM
What is the cost of mining 1 Bitcoin?
here is gold
http://www.visualcapitalist.com/what-is-the-cost-of-mining-gold
legendary
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June 11, 2013, 04:19:42 PM
https://www.kitcomm.com/showthread.php?t=119480

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No. Most silver comes out as a byproduct of other mining and costs below $4 bucks to mine. Indeed there are some mines that cost $15 or more to mine an oz but those are few and far in between. Any price above $2 (two bucks) is profitable for mining companies. Lets not forget that in 2002 silver was $4 bucks and it was very profitable to mine it then. Nothing has changed since!

edit: while we're at it, http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-21/visualizing-cost-mining-gold
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June 11, 2013, 04:15:20 PM
Gold down. Bitcoin steady.

Time to knife catch Chaang.

i bought a very large amount (for me) at $22.

I'm waiting for $18.XX to add some, and then $13 to add a lot more.



You think we'll drop below $15?
I bought at $23, and am lined up to buy the rest around $20, $18, and $15.

Already, the price feels ridiculous, and my largest fear is a split in paper and physical price before I've fully loaded up.
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June 11, 2013, 03:45:47 PM

Comparison of bitcoin and gold starting on bitcoins birthday "14 December 2009", as it is Satoshis last post here. You could argue that he considered it job done on that day and it can stand on its one from now on.
1/10 Once Gold was 112 Dollar on that day, today its 138. Bitcoins is 109 at screen-grap time. Its Daily closing price chart.
This graph would be more impressive if the scale was measured in percentage, with both lines normalized to 100% on the starting point at the left side of the screen.
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Energy is Wealth
June 11, 2013, 03:43:06 PM

Comparison of bitcoin and gold starting on bitcoins birthday "14 December 2009", as it is Satoshis last post here. You could argue that he considered it job done on that day and it can stand on its one from now on.
1/10 Once Gold was 112 Dollar on that day, today its 138. Bitcoins is 109 at screen-grap time. Its Daily closing price chart.
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June 11, 2013, 03:31:42 PM

 This may be why nobody's commenting. 

the reason nobody's commenting is b/c they're in shock.

I would appreciate more comments.
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June 11, 2013, 03:22:17 PM

 This may be why nobody's commenting. 

the reason nobody's commenting is b/c they're in shock.
legendary
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June 11, 2013, 02:54:46 PM
Is SLV decoupling?  Kitco showing 21.65...

Also its pretty hard to read the graphs you post & I'm on a "traditional" computer.  This may be why nobody's commenting.  Maybe fool with the font sizes or just describe the graph at the top so we don't have to try to read it in the image.

Thx!

You can right click and open image in new tab so it is clearer
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June 11, 2013, 02:52:50 PM
Is SLV decoupling?  Kitco showing 21.65...

Also its pretty hard to read the graphs you post & I'm on a "traditional" computer.  This may be why nobody's commenting.  Maybe fool with the font sizes or just describe the graph at the top so we don't have to try to read it in the image.

Thx!
legendary
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June 11, 2013, 02:37:30 PM
oops.

we gotta  problem:

legendary
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June 11, 2013, 11:36:02 AM
It's done wonders for my attitude about...well...everything. 

you mean you have the potential to be even chippier?  Wink
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June 11, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
When in doubt, and sitting on a huge pile of PM's and cryptocurrencies, do nothing SOMETHING ELSE PRODUCTIVE W/ YOUR LIFE.

No shit!  I've finally got to sawing up a mountain of logs with a sawmill I bought 10 years ago and have not used having got sucked into software engineering.  And a crane I bought late last year.  It's done wonders for my attitude about...well...everything.  And it's starting to have a positive impact on my waistline.  Out the door now to do another days worth of real work.

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June 11, 2013, 11:23:21 AM
When in doubt, and sitting on a huge pile of PM's and cryptocurrencies, do nothing SOMETHING ELSE PRODUCTIVE W/ YOUR LIFE.
legendary
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June 11, 2013, 09:31:08 AM
Gold down. Bitcoin steady.

Time to knife catch Chaang.

i bought a very large amount (for me) at $22.

I'm waiting for $18.XX to add some, and then $13 to add a lot more.



and then $8, and then $5.

pretty soon you'll be freakin' rich!

I don't think they dollar will ever be as strong as you think it will to get silver to $5.

its not just the dollar.
legendary
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June 11, 2013, 09:29:02 AM
Gold down. Bitcoin steady.

Time to knife catch Chaang.

i bought a very large amount (for me) at $22.

I'm waiting for $18.XX to add some, and then $13 to add a lot more.



and then $8, and then $5.

pretty soon you'll be freakin' rich!
legendary
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June 11, 2013, 09:20:48 AM
Prepare for launch!

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June 11, 2013, 09:15:01 AM
Poor gold, when will it ever catch a break?
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June 11, 2013, 09:12:59 AM
Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin up.
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June 11, 2013, 08:41:23 AM
Speaking of which, once we get some way for mainstreamers to have exposure to Bitcoin through a more standard investment vehicle (bitcoin ETF, etc.) we should also see gurus pushing bitcoins like they do precious metals, since they can offer services around it.
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June 11, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Sadly much of the reason Bitcoin isn't yet recognized as a mobile (teleportable & hide-able) store of wealth for HNWI is due to misunderstanding within the Bitcoin community itself. People advertize Bitcoin as money and as a medium of exchange and discourage "speculation" without making a distinction between short-term trading for fiat profit and safe-haven wealth protection / long-term investing.

In actual fact, given capital controls and unforseeable events that may force anyone to vacate their country of residence in a hurry (or be wrongfully arrested, etc.), a person of sufficient wealth would have to be a fool not to have a few bitcoins stashed away - assuming the person simply understood Bitcoin. In such circumstances, 5% of your wealth in a brainwallet could mean the difference between a ruined life and a temporary return to a lower standard of living.

Here's the narrative I'd like to be the common Bitcoin community wisdom, because it's true:

"Although at least one solid medium-of-exchange use may have been necessary for bitcoins to become valued when no one knew about or trusted them, with probably over a million users that train has left the station. Bitcoin's functionality as a teleportable and secret store of value is currently its most compelling use for wealthy people, since it is a highly sought-after capability (or would be if people knew such science-fiction-level thing is now possible) provided by no other asset. The consistently extraodinary year-on-year growth is just icing on the cake."

Bitcoin is the ultimate offshore account, and it happens to be experiencing incredible growth as a bonus - more than enough to offset volatility on a yearly timescale.

Good stuff. I've always been thinking that way, but figured what keeps HNWI to put money into bitcoins is mainly lack of trust and also the fact that bitcoin is not 100% secure in the sense that it could just theoretically vanish from one day to the other. Those 2 points are basically ingorable by putting just 3% or 5% and seeing it not as an investment, but more of a type of insurance in these financially and politically increasingly uncertain times. Like gold, just much more easily transportable and hidable.

We could easily play the fear card. Even David Morgan is now openly talking about "conspiracy-type" stuff (new world order, petro-dollar, currency (and shooting) war with 2 factions: asian and west (imf, world bank, fed,..)). His goal is clearly to have his clientel hold on to gold/silver, but the same stuff should work for bitcoin just as well (maybe better because of teleportability/hidability, maybe worse because complete economic collapse could disrupt infrastructure).

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