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legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
June 30, 2015, 06:22:45 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

Zero-conf transactions did make some sense for worthless things like your newsletter, but those days are behind us after half a decade or working on trying to fill 1MB blocks so a market could develop.


during that time period, price went from $4 to $266.

I was making the augment that BTC might be a good long term bet and doing so free of charge from $5-ish down to $2-ish as you might recall (though I shut my mouth at the bottom because I don't want to be a perma-pumper who loses people money.  Especially those who cannot afford it.)


guess if i was telling my subs to buy or sell?

I don't know what you told your subs, and never cared much.  You seem to have told everyone else to buy with both hands all the while the price was going from $1100 -> $200 or whatever.  I made it a point (and still do) to not sell under $600 and got some up in the 4-figure range.  If you were telling your subs to do as I did, great.  Maybe you were telling them buy Hashfast or whatever?  I was totally outside the loop on that one and to this day I don't even know what that is/was or that you were pumping it (if indeed you were.)  Whatever it was it doesn't sound like it worked out all that great.

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 30, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

Zero-conf transactions did make some sense for worthless things like your newsletter, but those days are behind us after half a decade or working on trying to fill 1MB blocks so a market could develop.



during that time period, price went from $4 to $266.

guess if i was telling my subs to buy or sell?
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
here is a little tidbit as to why full nodes might be failing during this stress test.  it makes sense:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3bmb5r/stress_test_in_full_effect/csnr4fi

We should have had more than one implementation/developer set/user group. Even a simple fork like XT could do, they could compete on timely bugfixing and other trivial usage related qualities.

I think there is a lot beyond bugfixing and trivial usage qualities they could compete on. There are real optimizations that could be done with pruning and other enhancements. Today these are being ignored for RBF changes and focus on LN and SC development. A set of devs working on an alternative core implementation that dedicate their time to improving the user experience, would develop a better implementation that attracts people over time.
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
June 30, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

Zero-conf transactions did make some sense for worthless things like your newsletter, but those days are behind us after half a decade or working on trying to fill 1MB blocks so a market could develop.

legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 06:05:04 PM
BitPay is not "accepted zero confirm transaction since 2013" until you are a US citizen and they know who is your grandma. -> So they know who you are and they know  how to apply law.

I just added credit to a NameCheap account using BitPay.  The credit arrived, and I was able to use it to buy hosting, before the transaction confirmed.  I also recently bought a Starbucks card using Gyft/BitPay and was able to use the card before the transaction confirmed.  

EDIT: And I'm not from the US nor registered with BitPay (does BitPay ever know who the buyer is?).

My pizza place uses BitPay, they accept blind pay-to address transactions with no registration or anything as zero confirm transactions, usually clears in 2-3 seconds, has since 2013. There is zero recourse for BitPay if I successfully cheat, but the network prevents that so BitPay works.

Odalv, you are so absolutely wrong here
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 30, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.

you are one of those devs who actually helped me realize that most of what some of you guys say is complete bullshit, aka fabricated armchair logic.

when i realized this, it was liberating.

actually, i have one last question.  if I simultaneous spending tx's how can I get rich by reading your newsletter for free?

i used to think, surely this dev must be running optimized simulations in the background that gives him some verified data to make these assertions, right?  or, at the very least, he's gone thru this situation before and has a foundation of knowledge in this area.  i would go quiet contemplating deeply what he had to say.

eventually, i realized no, it's complete bullshit.  he's just going thru a logic process winging it that i am more than capable of doing as well.

epiphany!

I do not know what devs do. (a lot of them are "running optimized simulations in the background that gives him some verified data to make these assertions"). And maybe a lot of them "gone thru this situation before and has a foundation of knowledge in this area".

What about you "Is it complete bullshit?"

no, what i say is based on what i learn here and elsewhere.

btw, you never answered why you're not rich yet doing your simultaneous double spends?
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 05:32:46 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.

you are one of those devs who actually helped me realize that most of what some of you guys say is complete bullshit, aka fabricated armchair logic.

when i realized this, it was liberating.

actually, i have one last question.  if I simultaneous spending tx's how can I get rich by reading your newsletter for free?

i used to think, surely this dev must be running optimized simulations in the background that gives him some verified data to make these assertions, right?  or, at the very least, he's gone thru this situation before and has a foundation of knowledge in this area.  i would go quiet contemplating deeply what he had to say.

eventually, i realized no, it's complete bullshit.  he's just going thru a logic process winging it that i am more than capable of doing as well.

epiphany!

I do not know what devs do. (a lot of them are "running optimized simulations in the background that gives him some verified data to make these assertions"). And maybe a lot of them "gone thru this situation before and has a foundation of knowledge in this area".

What about you "Is it complete bullshit?"
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 30, 2015, 05:18:41 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.

you are one of those devs who actually helped me realize that most of what some of you guys say is complete bullshit, aka fabricated armchair logic.

when i realized this, it was liberating.

actually, i have one last question.  if I simultaneous spending tx's how can I get rich by reading your newsletter for free?

i used to think, surely this dev must be running optimized simulations in the background that gives him some verified data to make these assertions, right?  or, at the very least, he's gone thru this situation before and has a foundation of knowledge in this area.  i would go quiet contemplating deeply what he had to say.

eventually, i realized no, it's complete bullshit.  he's just going thru a logic process winging it that i am more than capable of doing as well.

epiphany!
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 05:16:19 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.

you are one of those devs who actually helped me realize that most of what some of you guys say is complete bullshit, aka fabricated armchair logic.

when i realized this, it was liberating.

actually, i have one last question.  if I simultaneous spending tx's how can I get rich by reading your newsletter for free?
Not sure you could, you need a little understanding in economics to do that, but you could be rich double spending on all those payment service providers who use 0 confirmations.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 05:13:44 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.

you are one of those devs who actually helped me realize that most of what some of you guys say is complete bullshit, aka fabricated armchair logic.

when i realized this, it was liberating.

actually, i have one last question.  if I simultaneous spending tx's how can I get rich by reading your newsletter for free?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1005
June 30, 2015, 05:08:55 PM
here is a little tidbit as to why full nodes might be failing during this stress test.  it makes sense:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3bmb5r/stress_test_in_full_effect/csnr4fi

We should have had more than one implementation/developer set/user group. Even a simple fork like XT could do, they could compete on timely bugfixing and other trivial usage related qualities.

If so, an incident could rebalance the weight of those implementation organically. It is like in darwinian evolution, a catastophy like a flood or a fire can instantly change the volume of genes of certain types, leaving the losing genes lurking, ready to take over if a new and different event takes place. They represent the antifragility. I like to compare the laisses fleur economy to nature.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 30, 2015, 05:06:11 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.

you are one of those devs who actually helped me realize that most of what some of you guys say is complete bullshit, aka fabricated armchair logic.

when i realized this, it was liberating.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1007
June 30, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
BitPay is not "accepted zero confirm transaction since 2013" until you are a US citizen and they know who is your grandma. -> So they know who you are and they know  how to apply law.

I just added credit to a NameCheap account using BitPay.  The credit arrived, and I was able to use it to buy hosting, before the transaction confirmed.  I also recently bought a Starbucks card using Gyft/BitPay and was able to use the card before the transaction confirmed.  

EDIT: And I'm not from the US nor registered with BitPay (does BitPay ever know who the buyer is?).
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1005
June 30, 2015, 04:57:08 PM
1. Zero confirmed transactions, are the safest way how to transact with bitcoin.  100% security is confirmed

No one is claiming that.  I'm claiming that:

   0-conf (+ RBF)   <   0-conf (as is)   <  1-conf   <   2-conf …

Where the symbol [ < ] means "less secure than."  Do you disagree with the above inequality?

If not, what is the benefit of purposely making 0-conf less secure?

The antifragility. We need all the problems we can get.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

Have you heard of this little company called BitPay, you might want to Google them. They've accepted zero confirm transaction since 2013 without issue.

We are not discussing theoretical what-if scenarios here. This is real world use of ZCT and evidence Bitcoin functions good enough here for ecommerce.
 
But you've already ignored this, you either aren't even bothering to read replies and just screaming, or are incapable of rudimentary reading comprehension.

BitPay is not "accepted zero confirm transaction since 2013" until you are a US citizen and they know who is your grandma. -> So they know who you are and they know  how to apply law.
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
1. Zero confirmed transactions, are the safest way how to transact with bitcoin.  100% security is confirmed

No one is claiming that.  I'm claiming that:

   0-conf (+ RBF)   <   0-conf (as is)   <  1-conf   <   2-conf …

Where the symbol [ < ] means "less secure than."  Do you disagree with the above inequality?

If not, what is the benefit of purposely making 0-conf less secure?

0-conf (+ RBF)  is as TOTALLY INSECURE as any 0-conf

And Peter, myself, cypher and others already stated this as the original argument that 0-conf(+RBF) are insecure. We are discussing today's 0-conf (as-is), which functions good enough in the real world.

You've started to behave like TBTP
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 04:47:11 PM
1. Zero confirmed transactions, are the safest way how to transact with bitcoin.  100% security is confirmed

No one is claiming that.  I'm claiming that:

   0-conf (+ RBF)   <   0-conf (as is)   <  1-conf   <   2-conf …

Where the symbol [ < ] means "less secure than."  Do you disagree with the above inequality?

If not, what is the benefit of purposely making 0-conf less secure?

0-conf (+ RBF)  is as TOTALLY INSECURE as any 0-conf
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 04:45:39 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

Have you heard of this little company called BitPay, you might want to Google them. They've accepted zero confirm transaction since 2013 without issue.

We are not discussing theoretical what-if scenarios here. This is real world use of ZCT and evidence Bitcoin functions good enough here for ecommerce.
 
But you've already ignored this, you either aren't even bothering to read replies and just screaming, or are incapable of rudimentary reading comprehension.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 30, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
here is a little tidbit as to why full nodes might be failing during this stress test.  it makes sense:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3bmb5r/stress_test_in_full_effect/csnr4fi
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 30, 2015, 04:32:08 PM
rock and cypherdoc please publish your list of services with zero confirmation transaction you provide.
I'm getting mad ...... I WANT TO BUY !!!

actually, back in the day, i used to do it all_the_time with my newsletter.  never a problem.

I'm not interesting to buy your babbling  for 2 btc/month. I believe you had no problem if you received 2 btc. And I believe you had no problem if you received nothing.  -> I'll not get reach if I'll spend hours receiving your newsletter for free.
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