Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 227. (Read 2032248 times)

I never took an interest in fiction, but I did own a Hustler mag one time and remembered back to it when thinking about the 9/11 stuff.  In looking for it on-line I ran across this:

  http://canucwhatic.blogspot.com/2013/10/911-synchronicities-in-pop-culture-and.html

Maybe all the other stuff is made up, but I know the Hustler one is for real and I know the $20 bill folds into a rather amusing form because I've done it myself.

To conspiracy hypothesists this is known as 'predictive programming.'

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As for the twin towers and bldg 7, just about any still frame photo of the demo will make it pretty clear to anyone who has worked with their hands (on something other than their genitals) that it was not a gravity collapse.  As Anonymint says, there is so much more behind that.

Indeed, the 'official conspiracy theory' of a handful of Muslim trogs hiding out in caves half way around the world pulling it off really is completely laughable if one thinks about it even a little bit.

I actually argued to the neurobiologist researcher that you are not. She told me your true affiliations would be clear by how you would respond to logic. I am still entertaining the possibility you are just extremely deluded (or compromised by some vested interest). I am more apt to argue that again, because of Occam's Razor.

I actually think most people here are just dumb sheep and unwittingly doing what they do.

But I am not sure.

You've seen my photos too and know who I am. So we are even. What can we gain in Skype? Do you really think you can out-debate me (lol). Not a chance in hell for you to win a debate with me. My father is an attorney. I inherited his logic (but not writing) skills.

Losing structural strength (i.e. bending and warping) does not result in free fall velocity (i.e. no resistance) and perfect implosion onto base footprint with perfect accuracy 3 times for 3 different buildings including one that wasn't hit by any airplane.

And it is well known the buildings were evacuated several times in the weeks leading up to the incident and groups of men were "working" in the elevator shafts.

Now it is becoming very clear who here is a disinformation agent (perhaps unwittingly I am not sure).

this is how i know you are sick with paranoia, seeing shadows everywhere you turn:  

you actually know who i am, where i live, seen a picture of me, know my background, know i'm involved in a public lawsuit the docs of which you have have read, have 4.5 yrs worth of forum postings of me here and in other threads, and YET you still think i am part of a conspiracy.  tell me, do i fit the profile?  where is your logic in that regard?

you are definitely a nutcase.  all i see is fear, death, & destruction deep within you.

edit:  all of which you can verify during a Skype video if you were half the man you claim to be.

sure man.  After the planes hit some dudes with explosives ran UP the stairway ALL the way to where the fire was burning, planted the explosives, then ran all the way back down. /s  That's why if you look at the footage you'll see the building collapse started from the burn not from the bottom like when a building is demoed.

And yes absolutely kerosene and the vast quantity of flammable stuff in office buildings can heat steel to the point where it loses structural strength.  I've done it to the log holder in my fireplace just with office paper.

Ok I'm done with this conversation.  But my prior "joke" was meant partly seriously.  You have some interesting ideas at times but nobody is listening because you lack the ability to self-filter.  Nobody has the time to wade through hours of your blather to find the one or two gems.  They aren't valuable enough.

And what does any of that have to do with the physical (civil and thermodynamics engineering) science of it all?

Those who accuse me of writing posts devoid of information then don't address posts like this which are disinformational.

How did the fires under the rubble as seen from IR satellite imagery burn so intensely hot and long without oxygen? What was the fuel?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that.

I remember as soon as I heard the news about planes crashing into the World Trade Center and Pentagon my first thought was, "wow, it's just like in Debt of Honor".

Even back then I thought the media narrative was hysterical and insane.

As you said, the idea of using planes to attack buildings wasn't exactly obscure - Tom Clancy was among the most popular authors of the 90s, and the world trade center been a target of terrorists attacks already.

People were acting like their entire world view had been shattered by the fact that terrorists finally succeded in destroying the building they'd been trying to destroy for a decade. Were they just not paying attention to the first two attempts?

I did a sister thread with a poll which allows one to change their vote if they so choose.  Anyone who is interested, here's a link:

  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up-noonoopol-1091654

For ref, as I tap this out we are looking at the following results here:

Fuck man. You haven't even done the most basic research.

Steel buildings with girders the width of your room don't collapse into a pile of dust from kerosene and impact with aluminum.

And they certainly don't do it straight down onto themselves perfectly every time (3 times in this case) and with complete collapse and all with free fall acceleration (no resistance).

And you are an engineer? Do you do not have a pocket calculator?

No man. You understand very well inertia. And you understand very well the further we go on, the more the inertia rests at the center and not at the ends because of Bitcoin's network design.

economic majority is a non-concept. and im not even talking about bitcoin here.

Anyone who took some flying lessons?  Because pilots were trained to follow a terrorist's orders, similarly to how bank tellers today are told "no heroics, just give a robber the cash; we'll round him up eventually".  

And FYI the idea literally was written into a Tom Clancy novel years before (although IIRC it was Japan that attacked) so the terrorists did not even need to be creative.

That same novel put forth the idea of combined physical/economic warfare as well -- crash the stock market just before you attack.

well then, do as you promised and go away.

Clearly I know which side you are working for them.

You can start with the fact that NIST report modeling WTC7 collapse is an impossible model. And rabbit hole goes much deeper than that.

I am tired of arguing with you because it is clear that you are on a disinformation campaign (or extremely dumb... which I am still entertaining as a possibility but doesn't seem likely given your status as a medical doctor...).

So make a private thread then and bring all the people who don't violate your cultural expectations.

Then you can convince yourself that the world is really some mirage that you expect it to be.

And you can pretend that the short snippets of what you may think is "on topic logic" isn't myopic redundant, aliasing error.

And then you can block out all that which you don't understand or don't want to understand or don't think is relevant. And go along your blissful, merry way to the repeating dismal outcome of collective groupthink social action.

Do you really take solace in fooling yourself?

Yes of course they are distributed in space, but the results over and over indicated that the Logic of Collective Action rules and the result is they are centralized in effect. I already posted the following. Did you not read it?

http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/33417

And I posted ad nauseum up thread explaining the Logic of Collective Action which rules our earth since time eternal.

And somehow you think sprinking the Bitcoin network with more fools who don't have hashrate and who don't have full nodes is somehow going to change that repeating outcome of entropy (aka a power vacuum)?

I mean I get frustrated because you don't even refute me. You just carry on repeating your same myopia over and over.

I am tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. Tired of that shit.

I've never blocked anyone in my life before. Unfortunately my record ends today. This thread is being utterly destroyed.

Reminds me of another conversation:

Beware I writing this while listening to "Born on the Bayou" by CCR.


One of the reasons I write with such frustration is because I can not comprehend how any engineer can be ignorant of the fact that 9/11 was planned by a very powerful entity.

Ignorance of the scientific research (and I am not referring to the "UFO" disinformation sites) is not innocence. It is derelict of your duty as a citizen of this earth, one of humanity, and your natural instinct and social responsibility as an engineer and scientist to make sure you test all the facts of such a major event that has been used to foist totalitarianism all over the planet.

Any engineer that says "conspiracy theory" to me immediately goes on my "ignoramus sheep" irresponsible list.

I am a sheepdog. I am protecting society. Are you? If you are not, then you are in cohoots with the other side via at least via laziness.

Doctors take a Hippocratic oath to serve. As an engineer I always felt I took an implicit oath to serve and protect, especially when the issue is momentous.

Caution: the MP3 list has transitioned to "Time" by Pink Floyd... (my demeanor may change accordingly)



Other factors in addition to the frustration mentioned above, include the fact that my entire life I had to release testosterone twice daily, else I was a tiger. But now with this M.S., I am often wallowing and struggling with fatigue and I can't keep my testosterone level. The mere unrelenting struggle of it is enough to wear down the patience of a human after 3 years of this daily shit. I had two good productive months in April and May where I went mostly silent and programmed a new social network, but then I came back and tried to do much and worked myself into an unbalanced physical health state. Well I just did 120 pushups, ran 2 kms in 8 mins, ran 4 x 150m sprints, and released that excess and again exonerated myself that I am making progress on my physical performance.

Other factors include my cultural influences such as how my mother related to me recently that living in Washington State has the disadvantage that she can't be standing on the street in New Orleans waiting for a Trolley car and the city bus stop, the door fly open, and the female bus driver yelling, "Hey darling, why are you standing there, you need to get in this bus".

We southerners are different from you northerners. We have an ethos about respect but also we LOVE TO TALK AND TALK AND TALK.

There are other factors such as I played American Football (with a helmet) competitively in both high school and college. Meaning I broke the legs and ribs of men much bigger than I am. Thus I don't like pussies who hide behind the internet. I am accustomed to go up against real men and may the strongest win. If Cypherdoc attempted that shit in our lockeroom, he would find himself tied butt naked to the bleachers. Lol, actually I can picture that.  

Last  but probably not least my stepfather was 6'2" and 220 lbs when I was 12 years old and perhaps 5'2" and 110 lbs. I used to let him throw me down the stairs and bully me around. I was the nerd who relished letting others think they were tough. And then I took out my frustrations on the football field where very few could catch me because of my speed and agile body and when they did catch me, I would punish them with a forearm to the chest or a helmet into ribs.

I learned early on, hit or be hit. And I learned you never fail until you fail to get up.

And last I will say I was so fierce that the coach put tiny me on the offensive line! I was blocking guys twice my size and effectively. It was really weird. I think I am perhaps the only guy that small they ever put on the offensive line.

So yes I am proud of both my intellectual and my physical accomplishments. I fought for every thing in life.


And I am not about to stop now.

'accept' and 'entertain the possibility' are two very different things.  If you are unwilling to entertain the possibility of anything which is a 'deep conspiracy' (or which is marketed as such to your satisfaction) then you will miss every one.  And it is kind of beyond question that such things have existed in the past and it is unlikely that they've gone extinct as I tap out this note.

Recently it was found that Federal agents infiltrated deeply into Silk Road to the extent that they were playing a part in it's operations (murder for hire and such.)  Not only that, but they had gone rouge and were stealing BTC for themselves.  This is to crazy for my own rather fertile mind to have entertained as a very plausible scenario.  But there it is.  A person who rejects such things as completely outside the realm of possibility because it is a 'conspiracy theory' is much more likely to end up making poor decisions and some who did will probably be cooling their heels in the pokey.

Of course it is a plausibly hypothesis that much of the information about the Silk Road goings-on is itself a fabrication to achieve certain psychological operations objectives, cover for various people, etc, etc.  My point is that if you limit your thinking you are at a dis-advantage in understanding our world.  If you are thinking to the limits of your potential it is not necessarily 'psychotic', and probably rarely so.

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