i would like to propose a compromise.
let the Blockstream folks insert their SPV proof into source while simultaneously eliminating the block size limit. then we can see which Ferrari will go faster.
the network effect of sound money vs that of SC's (speculation). it would be a fantastic test of the market.
No deal. Sidechains are, as nullc and pwuille already patiently explained to you last night, "completely orthogonal to the blocksize debate."
Did you sleep well after
getting spanked and pouting until downvoted?
One interesting quote there:
"The blocksize debate if anything substantially slowed the release, absorbing mindbogglingly enormous amounts of time, and also having avoid including some scaling tools to avoid people getting confused that sidechains themselves were a scaling answer."
In the process of trying to show how they are not a conflict of interest, he uses a conflict of interest (time devoted).The thing is, he is right sidechains
are only a factor in scaling, but they aren't
the answer. They do provide for some scaling, but not at all a full solution.
They waste a lot of time trying to claim that there isn't a conflict of interest. The better method is to simply acknowledge it and move on. People are fairly accepting of the risk for now, but their efforts to fight it and claim it doesn't exist both make them look foolish and waste their time.
i'll be damned. i was gonna just post
exactly this based on that quote that popped into my head.
which goes back to a previous concern of how nullc spends
inordinate amounts of time politicking on forums. amazing actually.
You and Frap.doc are confusing the process with the products.
Of course, in the zero-sum time-limited world of the process, defending BTC against the GavinCoin attack necessarily costs time at the expense of sidechain dev.
What nullc and pwuille were referring to as orthogonal are the functions of the end-result products.
Despite their best efforts, people are still "getting confused that sidechains themselves were a scaling answer."
Nullc's time educating the drooling Reddidurr masses is well spent IMO. Frap.doc's POV differs, but he's not the boss of nullc. He doesn't pay nullc's salary nor contribute code to nullc's projects.
At least at this point the Gavinistas' gloves are off and their teeth are bared. They sense their loss of forward momentum, and are in desperation turning the rage up to 11. As if the "calm down and stop exaggerating" elders of Bitcoin are impressed with their foot stomping and huffy ultimatums!
blocks filling up again
Good! We need to chase the spam tx off the Mother Chain and grow the hitherto subsidized and thus underdeveloped fee marketplace into a mature, self-sufficient equilibrium.
I told you social pressure from full blocks would incentivize development of true orthogonal scaling in the form of sidechains, etc. Et voila!