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legendary
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May 20, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
TPTB, you and your handlers have 20 min to reverse this or all hell is gonna break loose:



looks like they're not gonna make it. poor boys.

we have confirmation of the non-confirmation.  with time, this should start dragging down the rest of the stock mkt.  it won't be a straight line and things will get quite volatile from here so watch out.
full member
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May 20, 2015, 02:40:20 PM
Not sure if game players want to pick an unnecessary fight with the government.

Sometimes I feel you should have some acid to relieve yourself of the irrational fear of government (it helps).

I have personally recommended acid to him many months ago. He could finally have a chance to see through his ego and perhaps give him real insight into all the things he now only thinks he understands. I think he is too old and scared anyway and really thinks he doesn't need it, lol.
legendary
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May 20, 2015, 02:40:13 PM
TPTB, you and your handlers have 20 min to reverse this or all hell is gonna break loose:

hero member
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May 20, 2015, 02:39:19 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32781244

edit: Sorry for posting this, just read it and it's incredibly stupid.
sr. member
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May 20, 2015, 02:06:51 PM
When you're a fanatic, anyone posting a contradictory opinion is a troll. This thread is full of Bitcoin fanatics who would rather sling ad hominems than learn.

My God I was just born again. Finally someone gained something (even if only an opinion to consider) from all my effort. Hope you can withstand the backlash. Thank you.
sr. member
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May 20, 2015, 02:04:23 PM
TBTB is a master troll of the highest order. Please reply with extreme caution.

Grand Master 15th degree fluorescent, Nibiru belted to be precise.

Some of you are really pathetic. It is sad.

There is only one way to kill a troll. Starve it.

Ignore(ance) is your special talent.
hero member
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May 20, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
TBTB is a master troll of the highest order. Please reply with extreme caution.

There is only one way to kill a troll. Starve it.
hero member
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May 20, 2015, 02:02:45 PM
TBTB is a master troll of the highest order. Please reply with extreme caution.
When you're a fanatic, anyone posting a contradictory opinion is a troll. This thread is full of Bitcoin fanatics who would rather sling ad hominems than learn.
sr. member
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Merit: 262
May 20, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
I am hyper pissed off at you guys that you do not care that the world will be turned into a 1984 in your lifetime.

The Bitcoin community in general and people who frequent this thread in particular seem to be overwhelmingly wary of centralizing tendencies in government and possible 1984 scenarios. Just because many of us here are not convinced by your arguments about Bitcoin being a TPTB-engineered honeypot (or we might be too stupid to realize, as you might interpret it), doesn't mean we are cheering for a reptilian illuminati NWO clusterfuck, quite the opposite.

All I've read here in this thread is either nonsense, denial, or justification because we won't have a universal store-of-value and global ledger if we don't allow the culprits of our slavery aid us in getting the dumb masses into Bitcon.

I am very aware that I have little to no technical knowledge to offer in this space. That is why I limit my activity to the one beneficial service I can provide: pointing out, that we are all allies in the intellectual fight against centralized one world government and in order to succeed, we need to leave our egos at the door, lest we just end up mimicking the struggle for becoming top-dog, alpha-males, claiming control over what people should do and think, which makes up the current structure of TPTB. We need discord for the decentralized agenda, so let's be friendly about it, shall we. Discord can be a lot of fun.

I tried to take your advice and make cordial and rational discussions. The result I got was saying I shouldn't post much.

If you are truly concerned, you will make sure you study the solution when it is made available. As everything will be explained in layman's terminology in a convincing manner. Then you will be able to argue convincingly to yourself that I was correct.

I can't do that sort of professionalized elucidation in this forum posting format.
legendary
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May 20, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
TBTB is a master troll of the highest order. Please reply with extreme caution.
legendary
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May 20, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
TPTB_need_war, I'm trying to understand what exactly you're attempting to communicate.  Earlier you mentioned that it would be a good idea to "move more hardware value into [a] coin" and "give mined morsels" so that "no one sells and [the coins] instead circulate":

If you can move the worlds CPUs into your coin decentralized, you can beat Bitcoin because you can move more hardware value into your coin. Especially if you can give the mined morsels to be so small that no one sells and they instead circulate those morsels on a use-case that Bitcoin can't do.

Yet when it was later pointed out that 21 Inc. is doing exactly that, you now seem to talk negatively about the idea:

21 Inc...are going to give some incentive discounts and 25% share hiding all the complexity of mining from these dumb users who have no demand for mining and then try to teach them to use their Bitcoins to buy ringtones and upsell crap...

In one or two sentences, what exactly are you trying to say?
sr. member
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May 20, 2015, 01:53:35 PM
Your post presents zero statements or facts, it is simply a string of nonsense...

Eat your ignorance:

Btw, CoinShuffle has the same weakness that I explained about CoinJoin. In the CoinJoin thread, gmaxell et al said if the dishonest user could be tracked, then it could be blacklisted. I retorted that with anonymous mixing, no one can be blacklisted. Duh! And they have high IQs  Huh
sr. member
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May 20, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
bullshit

yeah, like Samsung, who stands to install maybe a billion new smartphones with this new model, is going to just give up all future profits so that a NWO can tank the worldwide economy and take us down into a new Great Depression.

sounds legit.

You have a marvelous noise conflation engine in that void you call your brain.

If Samsung manufactures a billion phones for this 21 Inc, then 75% of the coins go to Samsung (a cartel and oligarchy member) then how did Samsung not profit?

Cartels and oligarchies are built for profits. They do destroy their markets over time, but that is an ancillary point.
legendary
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May 20, 2015, 01:50:11 PM
2) It is possible to implement in Bitcoin fully counterparty-less mixing, with no coordinated node and no shared secrets at the wallet level. Look at coinshuffle for an early example, I'm sure development on improving this will continue. Maybe I haven't looked closely enough, I fail to see any improvement Monero has over coinshuffle.

http://crypsys.mmci.uni-saarland.de/projects/CoinShuffle/coinshuffle.pdf

Do you really think you are technically qualified to argue when both smooth and I already told you it is impossible offchain. Dunning-Kruger! Don't ya know we thought about this in depth, debating it ad nauseum in multiple threads and beat that horse to death. We understand fundamentally why it is impossible offchain. And we don't have time to go sorting through dozens of more nonsense whitepapers to isolate the flaw in each of them. We already did that numerous times for various proposals.

You will win the propaganda of attrition if that is your desire to delude yourself and not trust experts. We rarely use the word "impossible". Smooth is even more careful than I am with that word.

Briefly un-ignored you since I have no one else on ignore.

Your post presents zero statements or facts, it is simply a string of nonsense stating that 1) you are right because you are amazing, 2) I am unqualified to have a viewpoint and 3) you won't bother to read nonsense whitepapers presented.

#1 and #2 I can live with, there are lots of immature people in the world.

#3 I can not. Your refusal to investigate new information, information that many peers have looked at and support, is why you are very limited in your understanding of the world and why you do not understand most of what you pontificate about. It is also why you are entirely unqualified to have viewpoints.

Welcome back to being my only ignore.

Oh, and not that it matters to me, but you have no idea who I am, what my qualifications are or what I've done, I feel pretty confident I'm more "qualified" to have viewpoints here than you for what's that worth.

You have polluted this thread and diminished it's usefulness, I have more valuable ways to spend my time, so I'm off for a while till TPTB finds the next shiny object.
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
May 20, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
Dow Theory is a particular form of technical analysis based on a presumed linkage btwn 2 well known and followed indices, the Dow Industrials and the Dow Transports.  not everyone agrees that it is useful, as in all techniques, but i personally use it along with others.  i think it is important since it is so well known and followed.  if the Transports aren't following a rally in the Industrials that shows that there is a non-confirmation or divergence warning of underlying, underappreciated problems in the real economy.  can't have true industrial production if the transportation companies aren't moving the resources.  it also fits nicely if you believe that there is a PPT that manipulates the small set of companies that comprise the Dow Industrials upwards on a regular basis w/o having to pump money into all stocks across the board.  lotsa ppl focus on the Dow Industrials.  i think this is true.  everyone i know, from taxi cab drivers, to sophisticated money managers follow the Industrials on their phones for signs of trouble in the economy.  yeah, the SPX would probably be a better indicator but like i said, manipulators should theoretically manipulate the easiest manipulable indices possible and that would be the Industrials.  anyways here is more info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_theory

Thank you for elaborating, I'll read up some more about it.

sr. member
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May 20, 2015, 01:46:56 PM
2) It is possible to implement in Bitcoin fully counterparty-less mixing, with no coordinated node and no shared secrets at the wallet level. Look at coinshuffle for an early example, I'm sure development on improving this will continue. Maybe I haven't looked closely enough, I fail to see any improvement Monero has over coinshuffle.

http://crypsys.mmci.uni-saarland.de/projects/CoinShuffle/coinshuffle.pdf

Do you really think you are technically qualified to argue when both smooth and I already told you it is impossible offchain. Dunning-Kruger! Don't ya know we thought about this in depth, debating it ad nauseum in multiple threads and beat that horse to death. We understand fundamentally why it is impossible offchain. And we don't have time to go sorting through dozens of more nonsense whitepapers to isolate the flaw in each of them. We already did that numerous times for various proposals.

You will win the propaganda of attrition if that is your desire to delude yourself and not trust experts. We rarely use the word "impossible". Smooth is even more careful than I am with that word.

Btw, CoinShuffle has the same weakness that I explained about CoinJoin. In the CoinJoin thread, gmaxell et al said if the dishonest user could be tracked, then it could be blacklisted. I retorted that with anonymous mixing, no one can be permanently blacklisted. Duh! And they have high IQs  Huh
legendary
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Merit: 1002
May 20, 2015, 01:43:15 PM
I am hyper pissed off at you guys that you do not care that the world will be turned into a 1984 in your lifetime.

The Bitcoin community in general and people who frequent this thread in particular seem to be overwhelmingly wary of centralizing tendencies in government and possible 1984 scenarios. Just because many of us here are not convinced by your arguments about Bitcoin being a TPTB-engineered honeypot (or we might be too stupid to realize, as you might interpret it), doesn't mean we are cheering for a reptilian illuminati NWO clusterfuck, quite the opposite.

I am very aware that I have little to no technical knowledge to offer in this space. That is why I limit my activity to the one beneficial service I can provide: pointing out, that we are all allies in the intellectual fight against centralized one world government and in order to succeed, we need to leave our egos at the door, lest we just end up mimicking the struggle for becoming top-dog, alpha-males, claiming control over what people should do and think, which makes up the current structure of TPTB. We need discord for the decentralized agenda, so let's be friendly about it, shall we. Discord can be a lot of fun.

sidhujag & Pruden,

you are going to get f*cked.  get out now.  this one doesn't look like its coming back:



I have been following this graph you keep posting for a while now and I am really interested to see what (if anything) happens, once it breaks down below the support that is indicated.

I would actually appreciate some explanation as to why this particular chart is so important, because to be honest I don't understand its significance - I just like the pattern you have spotted Smiley

Keep up the good work.

Dow Theory is a particular form of technical analysis based on a presumed linkage btwn 2 well known and followed indices, the Dow Industrials and the Dow Transports.  not everyone agrees that it is useful, as in all techniques, but i personally use it along with others.  i think it is important since it is so well known and followed.  if the Transports aren't following a rally in the Industrials that shows that there is a non-confirmation or divergence warning of underlying, underappreciated problems in the real economy.  can't have true industrial production if the transportation companies aren't moving the resources.  it also fits nicely if you believe that there is a PPT that manipulates the small set of companies that comprise the Dow Industrials upwards on a regular basis w/o having to pump money into all stocks across the board.  lotsa ppl focus on the Dow Industrials.  i think this is true.  everyone i know, from taxi cab drivers, to sophisticated money managers follow the Industrials on their phones for signs of trouble in the economy.  yeah, the SPX would probably be a better indicator but like i said, manipulators should theoretically manipulate the easiest manipulable indices possible and that would be the Industrials.  anyways here is more info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_theory
sr. member
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May 20, 2015, 01:27:01 PM
New Poll:

TPTB_need_war is:

a. trolling
b. crazy
c. other


Do you ever write anything that is not noise? Do you enjoy cluttering this thread with non-information?

You can resolve your problem by showing up here. I am waiting for you. Stop hiding behind your sockpuppet. I am not hiding.
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
May 20, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
I am hyper pissed off at you guys that you do not care that the world will be turned into a 1984 in your lifetime.

The Bitcoin community in general and people who frequent this thread in particular seem to be overwhelmingly wary of centralizing tendencies in government and possible 1984 scenarios. Just because many of us here are not convinced by your arguments about Bitcoin being a TPTB-engineered honeypot (or we might be too stupid to realize, as you might interpret it), doesn't mean we are cheering for a reptilian illuminati NWO clusterfuck, quite the opposite.

I am very aware that I have little to no technical knowledge to offer in this space. That is why I limit my activity to the one beneficial service I can provide: pointing out, that we are all allies in the intellectual fight against centralized one world government and in order to succeed, we need to leave our egos at the door, lest we just end up mimicking the struggle for becoming top-dog, alpha-males, claiming control over what people should do and think, which makes up the current structure of TPTB. We need discord for the decentralized agenda, so let's be friendly about it, shall we. Discord can be a lot of fun.

sidhujag & Pruden,

you are going to get f*cked.  get out now.  this one doesn't look like its coming back:



I have been following this graph you keep posting for a while now and I am really interested to see what (if anything) happens, once it breaks down below the support that is indicated.

I would actually appreciate some explanation as to why this particular chart is so important, because to be honest I don't understand its significance - I just like the pattern you have spotted Smiley

Keep up the good work.
sr. member
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Merit: 262
May 20, 2015, 01:22:28 PM
the only financial plan i've heard of is the 25/75% split btwn the consumer and 21, so the consumer is going to get spending coin.  and that would be business savvy for the companies b/c that allows consumers to purchase other services and features.  yes, the mining and hardware wallet will be on autopilot and already setup which makes it brain dead easy

Meaning dumb users, who don't vote with their feet on pool centralization, meaning the mining is controlled by cartels and oligarchs as I stated.

right.  bringing on over a billion new miners is somehow going to be centralizing.  it won't matter if they're mining back to the device makers b/c there will be hundreds (?) of them either running their own pools (only takes a server) or farming it out to other pools, the # of which will proliferate to take up the new business resulting in decentralization.

How does the manufacturer get 75% as you said, if the user has the freedom to change which pool the device points to?

Whoops. Duh.

it's threats like this

I am not making a threat. I am making a guarantee. I rarely do this, because I hate vaporware and promising the future. But in this case, the outcome is so blatantly obvious, I can.

as to what you will do to punish us who believe in individual freedoms.

Your illogic leads you to fight against individual freedom. Thus you will destroy yourself. That is why it is easy to make a guarantee.

the difference btwn a USB mining stick is that it has to be plugged into a non-portable computer to mine.  and this means at home where you'd have to pay for your own electricity.  your reading comprehension failed to pick up the part about "portable" and "free".

Of course I didn't miss your point about stealing or parasiting electricity from public venues. We have some insight into your ethics now. We can be fairly certain that the price of the lattes will be increased accordingly.

it's not my ethics we're assessing here and i don't advocate anything.  it's what i think will happen based on my assessment of human behavior.

It would help if you had some actual experience instead of the Freudian slip of projecting your slimy ethics and incorrect economics on a reality that doesn't exist. I am here in the third world and charging is strictly not allowed unless you pay. And you will be charged more if there is a new class of phones that hogs electricity. My point is you always pay for what you get. You overpay in Starbucks $5 for a 20 cents drink, so you are not getting electricity for free.

you totally fail to grok this.

You don't grok that I grok all and including that you don't grok but think you do. This is known as the Dunning-Kruger effect.

the difference btwn a USB mining stick is that it has to be plugged into a non-portable computer to mine.  and this means at home where you'd have to pay for your own electricity.  your reading comprehension failed to pick up the part about "portable" and "free".
Your ignorance of the fact that smartphones have a USB port is pathetic.

wow, you are ignorant.  you didn't get what i said, did you?

You think so don't ya? Did you entertain all the logical possibilities? How about the one where the USB port exists and if there was a market demand for mining on portable devices then the USB sticks would be made compatible with these ports.

Users sophisticated enough to mine will do it properly and not try to slime around and parasite a few watts here and there. You entirely don't understand marketing demographics, opportunity cost, economies-of-scale, and tsuris. You view people as dispensible, masochistic, unoptimizing, zombie robots in your vision of an army of religious/faithful nodes supporting your delusional greed masquerading in your mind as altruistic (lie!).

21 Inc isn't creating a market demand for independent mining. They are going to give some incentive discounts and 25% share hiding all the complexity of mining from these dumb users who have no demand for mining and then try to teach them to use their Bitcoins to buy ringtones and upsell crap in their walled garden model (a la iPhone and Apple App Store), while putting the mining on auto-pilot sending 75% to the cartels.

They understand these users are unsophisticated and need hand holding so they will sell them a walled garden ecosystem built around Bitcoin micropayments. Likely even moving these payments offchain to Coinbase or Circle.

Can you waste some more of my time please and clutter the thread with more of your nonsense?
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