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Colletrix - Bridging the Physical and Virtual Worl
March 25, 2015, 09:00:07 PM
The published piece to read would be: 'Ideal Money', John F. Nash, Jr.,  Southern Economic Journal, Vol. 69, No. 1 (Jul., 2002), pp. 4-11.

If someone can't get access and has a public repository where I can put a copy, I'd be glad to.

As for Nash being Satoshi ... very doubtful (the incomprehensible video starts with: "Bitcoin might not be it ... but gold or silver ..."). But he, like Hayek before him, has been talking about a nationless currency whose supply is outside of political control.
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March 25, 2015, 08:44:29 PM
just watched his youtube lecture at Scranton in 2011.  dang, he knows everything about money; including current events.  aand, he thinks about it like we do.
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March 25, 2015, 08:42:34 PM
One of the stranger Satoshi theories: Satoshi == Nick Szabo == Wei Dai == John Nash.
What if one person used all four of those aliases, then decided to obscure the trail even further by passing one or more of the identities to a successor, DPR-style?
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March 25, 2015, 08:06:26 PM


One of the stranger Satoshi theories: Satoshi == Nick Szabo == Wei Dai == John Nash. I skimmed this one night: http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/ . Seems a bit nuts, even by Bitcoin standards.
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March 25, 2015, 05:51:23 PM

we talked about this before.

i'm going thru more of his stuff.  i'm liking it.

Search the  "Bitcoin 20MB fork" thread for traincarswreck's posts you'll find quite a few resources aimed to link Nash and bitcoin (mind you that he can be very "cryptic" at times:)
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March 25, 2015, 05:33:19 PM

we talked about this before.

i'm going thru more of his stuff.  i'm liking it.
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March 25, 2015, 05:20:08 PM
Stocks getting pounded today, and yes Pruden, i still like the Dow Theory non conf:


It would have been a bad day if not for the fact that very few issues made a new 52-week low. This guarantees a bounce, which might set up a correction, like in early December, but for now longs are the place to be.

Still, economic surprises are very strong on the bad side this quarter. The good news is that the oil crash is over.
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March 25, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
no one wants to hear it but Jim Grant lays it on the line again:

Jim Grant: Fed’s Emergency Maneuvers More Likely To Hasten Actual Emergency

https://grabien.com/file.php?id=40434&searchorder=date
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March 25, 2015, 02:37:40 PM
Stocks getting pounded today, and yes Pruden, i still like the Dow Theory non conf:

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March 25, 2015, 01:35:50 PM
The legal authority for the National Security Agency’s bulk collection of telephone metadata derives from Section 215 of the Patriot Act, and that section is due to expire on June 1.

https://threatpost.com/tech-companies-privacy-advocates-call-for-nsa-reform/111805
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March 25, 2015, 12:41:09 PM
The lower you drive the price, the more ammo you give to your 'opponents'.   Great strategy he is proposing  Roll Eyes.  Well I guess it could work if the world only contained panicking headless chicken-types and no determined investors.
I'm not sure you understand how much little money (in relative terms) is needed for these scenarios to happen.

I am sure you don't understand how little impact this will have in the long run.
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March 25, 2015, 12:23:23 PM
what happened to yours and everyone elses FUD about the pools themselves organizing to do it?  
Looks like a bitcoin core developer is expressing that same FUD!
Heresy!

Quick! Shoot him down!

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572517325250801664?lang=en
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519382108139520
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519758769213440


whoa!  i guess if Peter Todd said it, it must be true!

look, i like Peter for the most part, but his specialty is stirring the pot.  
I didn't say that because he said it it must be true, I just show that it's not just a bunch of FUD by some bitcointalk trolls like you are trying to picture it.

i call you a troll b/c it's obvious to everyone around here that when you start a bunch of FUD threads that are meant to generate fear and selling, you lose credibility. like this one:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/current-market-conditions-are-scary-1001698  if you'll notice, i don't start threads.  i pretty much stay here b/c my goal is to generate and maintain quality, relatively academic Bitcoin discussion within this thread that has become known and has gained credibility.  i'm not into headlines, like you.  so yeah, if you enter here with that same FUD, i will call you out and expect something more from you.
Ok, so you think a thread on bitcointalk can influence the price of the BTC markets, and that is the reason I actually opened a thread. Not because I wanted to give my honest opinion about what I think is currently happening. Nah.
I opened similar threads when price was at $1000, $800, $570, $400 etc offering similar technical arguments. I guess those were FUD too.

I clearly see that in your thread you guys are not interested in reading any bearish/contrarian opinions without flagging it as FUD, bullshit and attacking the posters personally (even though they didn't do it in their posts expressing their opinions).
I never attacked anybody personally, just expressed an opinion.

You guys can carry on and jerk each other off while bitcoin unexpectedly dumps.

I remember Spiff talking about how he couldn't wait for the delusional bears to FUD and dump into his bids at $500-$390.
Because losing several billions of marketcap in one year is just the same as flash crashing for a few moments because of a $50k dump or whatever before recovering in 2010. Of course it would be the same.
Only fools think that "This Time is Different™".


Carry on good sir, I won't be posting in this thread anymore, don't worry.

we all have our runs where we're spectacularly right; and spectacularly wrong.  it's ok.  they're called cycles.  i've alway said that i won't keep quiet even during my down times b/c i think i understand the fundamentals of what's happening.  if one steps back and looks at the Big Pic, even you should be able to see that Bitcoin has done spectacularly well in a short 6 yrs.  price is just one metric of how it's doing and at times even it is irrational; to both peaks and troughs.  it's a reflection of market emotion; fear and greed which alternate.  that's why i don't trade.  no one says you can't be a bear.  i just think you're going to be spectacularly wrong.
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March 25, 2015, 12:16:47 PM
what happened to yours and everyone elses FUD about the pools themselves organizing to do it?  
Looks like a bitcoin core developer is expressing that same FUD!
Heresy!

Quick! Shoot him down!

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572517325250801664?lang=en
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519382108139520
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519758769213440


whoa!  i guess if Peter Todd said it, it must be true!

look, i like Peter for the most part, but his specialty is stirring the pot.  
I didn't say that because he said it it must be true, I just show that it's not just a bunch of FUD by some bitcointalk trolls like you are trying to picture it.

i call you a troll b/c it's obvious to everyone around here that when you start a bunch of FUD threads that are meant to generate fear and selling, you lose credibility. like this one:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/current-market-conditions-are-scary-1001698  if you'll notice, i don't start threads.  i pretty much stay here b/c my goal is to generate and maintain quality, relatively academic Bitcoin discussion within this thread that has become known and has gained credibility.  i'm not into headlines, like you.  so yeah, if you enter here with that same FUD, i will call you out and expect something more from you.
Ok, so you think a thread on bitcointalk can influence the price of the BTC markets, and that is the reason I actually opened a thread. Not because I wanted to give my honest opinion about what I think is currently happening. Nah.
I opened similar threads when price was at $1000, $800, $570, $400 etc offering similar technical arguments. I guess those were FUD too.

I clearly see that in your thread you guys are not interested in reading any bearish/contrarian opinions without flagging it as FUD, bullshit and attacking the posters personally (even though they didn't do it in their posts expressing their opinions).
I never attacked anybody personally, just expressed an opinion.

You guys can carry on and jerk each other off while bitcoin unexpectedly dumps.

I remember Spiff talking about how he couldn't wait for the delusional bears to FUD and dump into his bids at $500-$390.
Because losing several billions of marketcap in one year is just the same as flash crashing for a few moments because of a $50k dump or whatever in 2010. Of course it would be the same.
Only fools think that "This Time is Different™".


Carry on good sir, I won't be posting in this thread from now on, don't worry.
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March 25, 2015, 12:09:13 PM
what happened to yours and everyone elses FUD about the pools themselves organizing to do it?  
Looks like a bitcoin core developer is expressing that same FUD!
Heresy!

Quick! Shoot him down!

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572517325250801664?lang=en
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519382108139520
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519758769213440


whoa!  i guess if Peter Todd said it, it must be true!

look, i like Peter for the most part, but his specialty is stirring the pot.  
I didn't say that because he said it it must be true, I just show that it's not just a bunch of FUD by some bitcointalk trolls like you are trying to picture it.

geez, lots of smart ppl getting involved.  why not you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVqfpTSqug
legendary
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March 25, 2015, 11:53:12 AM
what happened to yours and everyone elses FUD about the pools themselves organizing to do it?  
Looks like a bitcoin core developer is expressing that same FUD!
Heresy!

Quick! Shoot him down!

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572517325250801664?lang=en
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519382108139520
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519758769213440


whoa!  i guess if Peter Todd said it, it must be true!

look, i like Peter for the most part, but his specialty is stirring the pot.  
I didn't say that because he said it it must be true, I just show that it's not just a bunch of FUD by some bitcointalk trolls like you are trying to picture it.

i call you a troll b/c it's obvious to everyone around here that when you start a bunch of FUD threads that are meant to generate fear and selling, you lose credibility. like this one:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/current-market-conditions-are-scary-1001698  if you'll notice, i don't start threads.  i pretty much stay here b/c my goal is to generate and maintain quality, relatively academic Bitcoin discussion within this thread that has become known and has gained credibility.  i'm not into headlines, like you.  so yeah, if you enter here with that same FUD, i will call you out and expect something more from you.
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March 25, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
what happened to yours and everyone elses FUD about the pools themselves organizing to do it?  
Looks like a bitcoin core developer is expressing that same FUD!
Heresy!

Quick! Shoot him down!

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572517325250801664?lang=en
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519382108139520
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519758769213440


whoa!  i guess if Peter Todd said it, it must be true!

look, i like Peter for the most part, but his specialty is stirring the pot.  
I didn't say that because he said it it must be true, I just show that it's not just a bunch of FUD by some bitcointalk trolls like you are trying to picture it.
legendary
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March 25, 2015, 11:43:15 AM
what happened to yours and everyone elses FUD about the pools themselves organizing to do it?  
Looks like a bitcoin core developer is expressing that same FUD!
Heresy!

Quick! Shoot him down!

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572517325250801664?lang=en
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519382108139520
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/572519758769213440


whoa!  i guess if Peter Todd said it, it must be true!

look, i like Peter for the most part, but his specialty is stirring the pot. 
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