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legendary
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October 16, 2014, 05:48:12 PM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.

i used to listen to Willie religiously.  unfortunately, he's too gloom and doom with lots of unsubstantiated sources ala his London guy.

Well it is true that China is the main gold buyer along with Russia and India... and it is true that htey hold majority of the bonds during the crash... so they should have some say in the manipulation that is going on.. up till now they were happy to scoop it all up as cheap as possible.. and US has been happy to simply borrow gold away while depleting its resources so either US knows something China doesn't or US doesn't care about gold as it has another card to play (bitcoin?) or something... here have your gold, i've moved onto my bitcoin.

So the idea is that now that China has all of the gold it can set the true price and let it float without manipulation and watch it rise... and if US wants to do arb's sure.. but you need actual metal to do that to bring to the exchange in China to trade... so effectively eliminating arb'ing. Now China can set the price to double and people will buy knowing US inventory is done and real price is/was much higher in the first place... however if US has another card they might just say but wait a sec.. you dont need gold anymore look at what I got!

I guess assumption on facts are:

1) Is US inventory depleted? (can you buy contracts and have them physically delivered? I heard no)
2) Will china reprice (Why wouldn't they?)
3) Does US have a backup plan once gold shoots up and ppl run around like chickens with their heads cut off? (TIme will tell)

The problem of the US will not be Gold shooting up but the USD going down as Yellen increase QE

Not talking about USD but gold against a basket.

One of the southern FED masters have come out and said they are for increasing QE should economy show signs of faltering.. but he is just one of many that need to vote as a consensus is formed... so its still tapering until its not.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
October 16, 2014, 04:59:06 PM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.

i used to listen to Willie religiously.  unfortunately, he's too gloom and doom with lots of unsubstantiated sources ala his London guy.

Well it is true that China is the main gold buyer along with Russia and India... and it is true that htey hold majority of the bonds during the crash... so they should have some say in the manipulation that is going on.. up till now they were happy to scoop it all up as cheap as possible.. and US has been happy to simply borrow gold away while depleting its resources so either US knows something China doesn't or US doesn't care about gold as it has another card to play (bitcoin?) or something... here have your gold, i've moved onto my bitcoin.

So the idea is that now that China has all of the gold it can set the true price and let it float without manipulation and watch it rise... and if US wants to do arb's sure.. but you need actual metal to do that to bring to the exchange in China to trade... so effectively eliminating arb'ing. Now China can set the price to double and people will buy knowing US inventory is done and real price is/was much higher in the first place... however if US has another card they might just say but wait a sec.. you dont need gold anymore look at what I got!

I guess assumption on facts are:

1) Is US inventory depleted? (can you buy contracts and have them physically delivered? I heard no)
2) Will china reprice (Why wouldn't they?)
3) Does US have a backup plan once gold shoots up and ppl run around like chickens with their heads cut off? (TIme will tell)

The problem of the US will not be Gold shooting up but the USD going down as Yellen increase QE

thought they were tapering it actually?! (as the gold price..)
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
October 16, 2014, 04:41:37 PM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.

i used to listen to Willie religiously.  unfortunately, he's too gloom and doom with lots of unsubstantiated sources ala his London guy.

Well it is true that China is the main gold buyer along with Russia and India... and it is true that htey hold majority of the bonds during the crash... so they should have some say in the manipulation that is going on.. up till now they were happy to scoop it all up as cheap as possible.. and US has been happy to simply borrow gold away while depleting its resources so either US knows something China doesn't or US doesn't care about gold as it has another card to play (bitcoin?) or something... here have your gold, i've moved onto my bitcoin.

So the idea is that now that China has all of the gold it can set the true price and let it float without manipulation and watch it rise... and if US wants to do arb's sure.. but you need actual metal to do that to bring to the exchange in China to trade... so effectively eliminating arb'ing. Now China can set the price to double and people will buy knowing US inventory is done and real price is/was much higher in the first place... however if US has another card they might just say but wait a sec.. you dont need gold anymore look at what I got!

I guess assumption on facts are:

1) Is US inventory depleted? (can you buy contracts and have them physically delivered? I heard no)
2) Will china reprice (Why wouldn't they?)
3) Does US have a backup plan once gold shoots up and ppl run around like chickens with their heads cut off? (TIme will tell)

The problem of the US will not be Gold shooting up but the USD going down as Yellen increase QE
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
October 16, 2014, 04:23:20 PM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.

i used to listen to Willie religiously.  unfortunately, he's too gloom and doom with lots of unsubstantiated sources ala his London guy.

Well it is true that China is the main gold buyer along with Russia and India... and it is true that htey hold majority of the bonds during the crash... so they should have some say in the manipulation that is going on.. up till now they were happy to scoop it all up as cheap as possible.. and US has been happy to simply borrow gold away while depleting its resources so either US knows something China doesn't or US doesn't care about gold as it has another card to play (bitcoin?) or something... here have your gold, i've moved onto my bitcoin.

So the idea is that now that China has all of the gold it can set the true price and let it float without manipulation and watch it rise... and if US wants to do arb's sure.. but you need actual metal to do that to bring to the exchange in China to trade... so effectively eliminating arb'ing. Now China can set the price to double and people will buy knowing US inventory is done and real price is/was much higher in the first place... however if US has another card they might just say but wait a sec.. you dont need gold anymore look at what I got!

I guess assumption on facts are:

1) Is US inventory depleted? (can you buy contracts and have them physically delivered? I heard no)
2) Will china reprice (Why wouldn't they?)
3) Does US have a backup plan once gold shoots up and ppl run around like chickens with their heads cut off? (TIme will tell)
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
October 16, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
plus, anyone leaving coins on an exchange deserves to lose them.

problem is that if you don't keep coins on an exchange, then you can't trade. So if everyone followed your advice no BTC market could exist.
If our Rothschild OverLord of yesteryear was to think about that problem here's what he would say:
"Treat the stock Bitcoin exchange like a cold shower (quick in, quick out)."
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
October 16, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
plus, anyone leaving coins on an exchange deserves to lose them.

problem is that if you don't keep coins on an exchange, then you can't trade. So if everyone followed your advice no BTC market could exist.
legendary
Activity: 1372
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October 16, 2014, 01:54:45 PM

It's like Pirate40 has gone from the collective memory of Bitcoin, I'm visceraly sure this is happening and we're going to have another teachable moment.

But I also feel they will invest there ill gotten fiat back into Bitcoin, as its safer.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 16, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.

i used to listen to Willie religiously.  unfortunately, he's too gloom and doom with lots of unsubstantiated sources ala his London guy.

I didn't listen when said to only buy physical and avoid PM stocks.  WHOOPS!

His gloom and doom are nothing if not entertaining, like the thinking man's Alex Jones.  Especially when he gets all worked up and rants like Max Kaiser!   Cheesy

The newsletter is pretty good too, although mostly a recap of the last 30 days of ZeroHedge.

Fringe conspiranoia aside, The Golden Jackass is easily worth 10 Martin Armstrongs. 

I offered a free sample, but he has zero interest in BTC.   Sad
legendary
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legendary
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October 16, 2014, 12:31:34 PM
plus, anyone leaving coins on an exchange deserves to lose them.

I don't know if I would go so far as to say, "deserves".

The scantily clad woman walking down the "wrong side of the tracks" in the middle of the night doesn't deserve to get raped. Yet... at the same time, she had better adjust her behavior before something bad happens to her, because she is playing with fire.

There are shit people on the planet, that's a fact. Innocent people don't deserve the bad shit that happens to them, but they certainly play a key role in it by refusing to protect themselves. When we (those who do protect ourselves) point out their failure, we are labelled as "blaming the victim".

In today's global economy, those who protect themselves can still end up as victims thanks to the actions (or inactions) of those who don't. This is when it starts to get complicated.

Are people shorting this market with bitcoins which "belong" to others? Probably.

Should people be free to make stupid decisions? Yes!

How do we protect ourselves from the stupid decisions of others in a global economy? That's the tricky part and probably why many of us are involved with Bitcoin in the first place. I wish I had all the answers.



yeah, that was written out of emotion.
legendary
Activity: 1764
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October 16, 2014, 12:13:21 PM

haha, your question actually has merit.  who's the real devil?  the lender, the shorter, or the exchange enabler?
legendary
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October 16, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.

i used to listen to Willie religiously.  unfortunately, he's too gloom and doom with lots of unsubstantiated sources ala his London guy.
legendary
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October 16, 2014, 12:08:23 PM
legendary
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legendary
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October 16, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
worth watching for gold bugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6JUChxtF4

gentlemen, gold revaluation is coming.
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
October 16, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
Dow -415, Bitcoin holding beautifully.


When does the QE effect inflect? The Fed can't come out with QE4 without signaling an extreme lack of confidence in markets. At some point, that signaling will overwhelm any technical boost in asset prices that the liquidity would otherwise bring (ie, banks will just sit on the funds instead of bidding up the stock market).


First they need to show that end of the current QE wreaks havoc, then a new QE can be introduced.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-16/bullard-says-fed-should-consider-delay-in-ending-qe.html
sr. member
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October 16, 2014, 07:00:04 AM
legendary
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October 16, 2014, 06:56:38 AM
hit sub 80 oil.  amazing charade ya got going there, Fed!

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