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newbie
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March 28, 2014, 09:14:39 AM
#71

Your third link is broken, unless you intended us to read about waterbeds or textiles.
legendary
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March 28, 2014, 08:22:17 AM
#70
Btc = digital
gold = physical.
I dont think btc can replace gold

In digital age?? Hmmm ... Smiley noooooo... impossssssibbbllllee...
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
March 28, 2014, 02:41:58 AM
#69
Btc = digital
gold = physical.
I dont think btc can replace gold
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
March 27, 2014, 11:53:20 AM
#68
Bitcoin and Gold are both useful;Bitcoin is new and is the future and Gold had value since the humans found it and use it and will continue to have value.I am for both!
legendary
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Merit: 1199
March 27, 2014, 10:25:43 AM
#67
Just created an image for you to show you my opinion Smiley



Hehe Smiley
nice Grin
bitcoin : gold currency in digital age Cheesy

This is a point! Smiley
And maybe some pepole would consider why it is better to invest into BTC than into GOLD Smiley

i agree Grin
but gold price will skyrocketing when war time, idk where will BTC price go to when war time
better split our investment, gold and BTC.

I just hope there will be no more war time Sad
And price of BTC will skyrocket with growth of its popularity.

SmileyBTC
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
March 27, 2014, 10:03:45 AM
#66
Just created an image for you to show you my opinion Smiley



Hehe Smiley
nice Grin
bitcoin : gold currency in digital age Cheesy

This is a point! Smiley
And maybe some pepole would consider why it is better to invest into BTC than into GOLD Smiley

i agree Grin
but gold price will skyrocketing when war time, idk where will BTC price go to when war time
better split our investment, gold and BTC.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
March 27, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
#65
Just created an image for you to show you my opinion Smiley



Hehe Smiley
nice Grin
bitcoin : gold currency in digital age Cheesy

This is a point! Smiley
And maybe some pepole would consider why it is better to invest into BTC than into GOLD Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
March 27, 2014, 09:58:25 AM
#64
Just created an image for you to show you my opinion Smiley



Hehe Smiley
nice Grin
bitcoin : gold currency in digital age Cheesy
legendary
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Merit: 1199
March 27, 2014, 08:47:53 AM
#63
Just created an image for you to show you my opinion Smiley



Hehe Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1004
Firstbits: Compromised. Thanks, Android!
July 31, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
#62
Bitcoin is nothing.  It has one use, and that is to exist and be exchanged.

While this is technically true, you seem to be drastically underrating its utility as a digital means of exchange. Let's just say that at this point, until something superior comes along, bitcoins will continue to have significant value.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
July 28, 2011, 06:04:43 PM
#61

  ...Keynes didn't say a single truth. 

"In the long run we're all dead"?

also...

As the inflation proceeds and the value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.
Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.


Wow, that was from keynes? Maybe we should all read him after all. Maybe I do some day.
I stick with this one:

"Gesell's chiefwork is written in cool and scientific terms, although it is run through by a more passionate and charged devotion to social justice than many think fit for a scholar. I believe that the future will learn more from Gesell’s than from Marx’s spirit."
—John Maynard Keynes

I like Gesell's critique to Marx a lot. I've read some small parts from Mises's, but I want to read that whole book.
hero member
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Bitcoin - helping to end bankster enslavement.
July 28, 2011, 02:44:09 PM
#60

  ...Keynes didn't say a single truth. 

"In the long run we're all dead"?

also...


As the inflation proceeds and the value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.
Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.
newbie
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Merit: 0
July 27, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
#59
Correction: Gold and silver are money, Bitcoins are currency.

Some expensive bio-weapons avaliable today :
If Those can buy these.
Then I will call it a currency!
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 27, 2011, 09:31:38 AM
#58
Unlike bitcoin, gold could be easily forged
Will you tell the difference between 99.99 % and 99% gold?
That's one of the reasons gold was replaced by printed money in circulation
Right, because paper money is impossible to counterfeit.  Roll Eyes
I don't believe there are many counterfeiters who go to the trouble of making convincing fakes of gold bullion just to replace .9% of the gold with something else, unless you're talking about debasement by the official issuer. It's worth noting that tungsten and gold have almost identical densities though. Tungsten is very difficult to machine or cast but it can be formed using powder metallurgy techniques. That doesn't mean that a fake with high tungsten content would be undetectable, only that measuring the size and weight would not be enough. Then again, try doing anything with bitcoins without using sophisticated technology.
sr. member
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Merit: 257
July 27, 2011, 08:56:12 AM
#57
Unlike bitcoin, gold could be easily forged
Will you tell the difference between 99.99 % and 99% gold?
That's one of the reasons gold was replaced by printed money in circulation
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1002
July 21, 2011, 11:46:25 AM
#56
But I don't think that the model can be copied so easily as you might think.  Sure, one can take the code and compete, but then you are starting from a community much smaller than even Bitcoin.  As the system presently exists, security and value come from the network effects.  So any particular merchant or consumer is going to favor the established blockchain, even when he doesn't really know why this is in his own interests, because some will understand this, and the ignorant user will use whatever he has greatest exposure to.  This will always be bitcoin unless and until a competitor with a distinct advantage can be developed, and such an advantage cannot be one that bitcoin itself cannot reasonablely assimulate.  In the long run, I think that we will see both specialized parrallel solutions such as namecoin, and regional solutions.  Yet I think that they will all be tied back into the main bitcoin blockchain in some fashion that allows the other smaller chains to 'piggy back' on the security model of the main blockchain.  But then this kind of co-dependency also solidifies Bitcoin's main chain as the common thread, and thus bitcoin as the currency of international Internet trade.

Merged mining is already developed and is going to start to be used soon. I think that is going to be very good for namecoin but not bad for bitcoin.
legendary
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July 21, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
#55

Money, in its essence, is an information technology.

The informational content is value.

In hindsight, it will be obvious that the internet has come up with a superior form of money ... it may not be bitcoin though.

Agreed.  It's quite a vague assertion, though.  But it has profound truth in it.  IMHO.
legendary
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July 18, 2011, 11:53:31 PM
#54

The two year headstart is also a bit of a misnomer.  Growth was rather stagnant for the majority of that time, with a high rate of growth over more recent periods.  Really Bitcoins major advantage is being first to market and having a small geek community base.  First to market doesn't matter if the model can be copied and the Bitcoin community is nominal in scale.  I'd be curious to hear of any serious barriers to entry by a competing crypto-currency because I don't see any.

But I don't think that the model can be copied so easily as you might think.  Sure, one can take the code and compete, but then you are starting from a community much smaller than even Bitcoin.  As the system presently exists, security and value come from the network effects.  So any particular merchant or consumer is going to favor the established blockchain, even when he doesn't really know why this is in his own interests, because some will understand this, and the ignorant user will use whatever he has greatest exposure to.  This will always be bitcoin unless and until a competitor with a distinct advantage can be developed, and such an advantage cannot be one that bitcoin itself cannot reasonablely assimulate.  In the long run, I think that we will see both specialized parrallel solutions such as namecoin, and regional solutions.  Yet I think that they will all be tied back into the main bitcoin blockchain in some fashion that allows the other smaller chains to 'piggy back' on the security model of the main blockchain.  But then this kind of co-dependency also solidifies Bitcoin's main chain as the common thread, and thus bitcoin as the currency of international Internet trade.
legendary
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Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
July 18, 2011, 09:07:09 PM
#53

Money, in its essence, is an information technology.

The informational content is value.

In hindsight, it will be obvious that the internet has come up with a superior form of money ... it may not be bitcoin though.
hero member
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Merit: 500
July 18, 2011, 08:33:34 PM
#52
The hard part to replicate about bitcoin is the community.  It took two years to build up the community, and I think that it would be difficult to replicate that just by tweaking the code a bit and starting a parrallel blockchain.

The community is relatively small and two years is not all that long.  See what Facebook did to MySpace as an example.  And MySpace was significantly more entrenched in the mainstream public than Bitcoin currently is but that didn't make much of a difference.   

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That said, anyone is welcome to try it.  If it has features that make it superior to bitcoin, it would probably eventually win.  However, they must be features that are obviously superior to a large percentage of the Internet using population.

I agree.

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I don't really think that is going to happen, myself.

If Bitcoin does become even moderately successful, I don't see how it would not happen.  Where profit can be had, competition will grow.  I find it hard to believe that an open source project that has no protection (via patents, trademarks, etc.) would not garner competition.  The barriers to entry are just too low.

The two year headstart is also a bit of a misnomer.  Growth was rather stagnant for the majority of that time, with a high rate of growth over more recent periods.  Really Bitcoins major advantage is being first to market and having a small geek community base.  First to market doesn't matter if the model can be copied and the Bitcoin community is nominal in scale.  I'd be curious to hear of any serious barriers to entry by a competing crypto-currency because I don't see any.
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