Topic: Good manners and good favour. (Read 354 times)

Practicing good manners is a simple yet powerful way to navigate social interactions, fostering positive connections. Showing kindness and extending favors not only reflects well on your character but also contributes to a more harmonious and supportive community.
When you are polite to atleast one person, it creates a ripple effect, influencing others to reciprocate and contribute to a culture of respect. Whether it's holding a door open or expressing gratitude, these small gestures can make a significant impact, enhancing the overall atmosphere of any social environment.

I must say you have a good point here. I don't criticize the little efforts of my fellow beginners, as I see others undermining the fact that they are also newbies, using hash words on people, responding to corrections with bad manners, etc.
 
One thing I know is that the way you're in reality influences everything about you; hence, it will always show both in the forum and elsewhere. Some people are just rude, naturally, or bad-mannered, if I must say, and this causes a lot of issues (bad reputation) for them. Some are angry people in real life; therefore, they pass this anger on to this forum, attacking everybody for no useful reason.
 
If you must succeed here, you just have to be real with yourself and stop trying to impress people who are already past your level. If you do your best, the best will come to you. Be yourself and move on; don't depend on people meriting you before you make progress. The quantity of your merit isn't success; it just shows that you did something that was worthy of celebration and warranted your merit.
 
If I must put something in order, it should be the word favor. I guess in the manner in which you frame the content, it means merit, but favor isn't just merit; there is more to that than merit. For example, if I'm an amateur graphics designer and maybe I have a good reputation here in this forum, someone can just hit me up and hand me a project to do just to test me. If I can deliver, then I'm already favored because if a legendary member or so gives trust and feedback, people will surely start handing their own projects to you; hence, this is also a favor.
 
There are lots of things we will discuss here, but as time goes on.

This is correct, how could it be any other way? I have very rarely met people on the forum who do not know how to control themselves. Politeness and manners play a crucial role in our communication, no matter what line of work you are in and trying to excel in. Behaving arrogantly and preventing others from developing will only lead to bad consequences. Bad behavior creates obstacles in business communication and often gives rise to unnecessary conflicts.

Since you are paying attention to the people ahead of you in the platform, that is the good manners we are talking about here and the impact they will impact to you is the favour we are discussing here which is very important for newbies to develop this good manners to grow higher and to maintain the rules and regulations that governed the Bitcointalk.org. But when you make a good post that attract other people attention , some old members will like to merits you to encourage you for the quality post you made in that particular thread and it will make you to study  more so that you can develop more effort that will bring more quality post that will make old people to show you more love either by referring you to some links that will add value to you or refer you to some sector were you can get more answers to your question.

When you have that good manners in you, you will be able to follow their steps to achieve your dreams in the future but there are some newbies, they don't want to acquire the skills to enjoy what others are enjoying in the platform than to follow the short cut that will make them to regret for taking such steps to disobey the rules.

The practice of courtesy and manners is necessary to inspire the nation with new vitality and establish it in a seat of dignity. Etiquette has a very high place in the overall welfare of human life. Good behavior since joining Bitcointalk.org is up to the individual. Good behavior will be formed from inside the person's mind it is not possible to achieve it after any book. But even though they vary manners always aim to do the same thing to make other people feel appreciated and respected which helps develop friendships.

not just reading books but with people that has that attitude, meaning engage in good people and not just the books to read but in reality/
Not to all but choose those who have good views , prefer to have what made you feel better and comfortable  , because this is not something that will favor them but yourself .
you are the one who seek favors so you have nothing to expect in your time.
just read a lot , read more , and understand .

If beginners have the knowledge they get more outside the bitcointalk forum, maybe it could be like that, there are those who are late to enter the bitcointalk forum but technically they have qualified experience in technical cryptocurrencies or in terms of computing knowledge that is equivalent or even more, unfortunately it is too fast and chooses words as if advising, it is true that manners are the main behavior that is highly valued in any space, mingle and look for good language rather than just advising especially new members who instantly interact in the bitcointalk forum. Beyond knowledge of course a good attitude is a special impression for beginners. Not to patronize because if you enter this forum there is certainly other knowledge that beginners do not know. of course it is different to share ideas and opinions than to justify one-sidedly in a thread before editing from several responses even an expert. basically the unity of opinion in this forum is the main thing.

Manners comes with the environment we grew up and it can't be changed that easily by reading some books and anything else. Because it is something that we acquire throughout our lifetime so it needs a strong reason if it needs to be changed.

it is really hard to determine one’s character just based on a few words they have typed in to their computers and posted into this forum but upon entering the forum or any community for that matter, i have made it a mindset to not take everything personal sometimes we can misinterpret some things especially if our only basis is what we see on the internet

this forum, albeit can also form friendships, is solely for the purpose of sharing information regarding cryptocurrencies and i know that people in here just want to be able to share and receive helpful information

I always pay respect to the old timer, because  i have been seeing them since I was a newbie and I also see them grow with knowledge and support to us , though about the favour ? not sure if what does that mean to you but for me , as long as you are paying attention to the rules , as long as you are obeying what is needed , and following their footsteps ? then it will always come your way .

Good manners should be learned and taught first at home. While it's hard to extract and absorb teachings about good manners through books and reading.

It should be directly by somebody that you respect mostly and has been with you at all times. In this case, it is our parents. But for the unfortunate ones, if they don't have their parents with them then whoever has been with them like guardian or someone has took care of them.

Of course and that is to respect everyone's belief. And about the people who are more intelligent that us, if you feel that you are intelligent, no you are not as there's someone here who's more knowledgeable than you.

Even if you already know everything - but the best thing to practice is to be an empty glass in every meeting you have with more established users. This allows you to gain new knowledge - but it is human nature to be a know-it-all or to think that they know more than others, and in reality this only prevents them from developing.

But know this – these humans are never perfect. You can still hope for a change for the better and give them an education – but if they don't want to change themselves, then whatever advice is simply useless.

I think the forum don't really care about people's characters because it is an online platform where we discuss about bitcoin , we do not look into people's characters if it is good or bad. All the forum cares about and want from it members,  is for members to abide to the rules and regulations of the forum, respecting this rules one is considered to be a good member of the forum.
Howvto communicate in the forum is very important for every member,  not just the newbies,  like correcting in a way that shouldn't look like an insult, but pleasant and very easy.

Generally, I must say that good manners is an asset necessary to have if you must survive in any environment, and not just this forum alone, as it drives people towards you as a person of great value, respected by many. Hence, leading to unleashing unmerited favour from both God and man. So when it comes to Newbie here on this forum,  I must say that it's always been like that, as most times 70% of the Newbies you see on this forum, are first time Newbies to both the forum and Bitcoin at large, and as such you are likely to see low quality posts from this set of individuals until they grow and get adapted to how the forum works fully. So for me, I think this post should be a wake-up to all newbies here on this forum to not forget that even while been a newbie on this forum, with good manners and great ability to communicate effectively here on this forum, you stand a better chance of succeeding here.

If truly we want a change over the way we lived our lives then we also have to change the way we think and reason, if we have good manners, good favours shall also follow us because the law of nature makes everything work together along with it's kind, that is why we gave to be very deliberate on the way we live our lives and what we do, in other not to make ourselves be the repellant of our favour because of the manners we have.

Often time I have seen the importance of a good manner of approach to things, and how important it is to cultivate good behaviour because that is the reflection of who you are and always try not to rush things, take time to think before you react to any situations because it is very important to always think before you act since your actions are the reflection of your person.
The reason why, it is very important to say that you should treat people the way you want to be treated, maintain your boundaries, not allow anyone to take advantage of you and know your right, if one cultivates this practice and follow the forum rules, he/she won't have any problem as long as the forum is concerned.

The greatest identity of a man is his behavior. Your manners are good means you are a very good person as a person. Good manners cannot be done by everyone, every day we meet different people on the way but not all people have the same manners. When we meet new people along the way, some people are very kind and some people are rude and some people abuse other people unnecessarily. I've found it a few times that when I treat others well, I am sure to be treated well in return. Any difficult task can be easily done by good usage and good words. When you want to shop in different showrooms, the customers are treated very politely from the showrooms, but if the customers were treated badly from a showroom, people would not go to that showroom for shopping, and this is one of the greatest virtues of good manners.

This forum does not call for respect because is not a town hall stuff , this place is all about normal discussion and interaction and I believe that what is needed here is to throw more insights or light of development of bitcoin mostly been innovative and also introduced a method we can apply to solve bitcoin problems, now the fees of bitcoin transaction is higher so we need to at least understand and learn the possible measures we can apply in order to pay a low fees for our transaction to be confirmed not a respect

Every good deeds begins from he mind, when you're determined for it, it will not be that difficult for you to face the challenges that might comes along the way, some don't know that it's their attitude that chase good things away from them, this all begins from the way we handle other's people's things in our control, the way we handles ours as well and what we always have in mind to doing them, they are what brings in favour to us through the manners we have about doing things.

What do you mean by favour? Is it merits or a good reputation?  I’m thinking this is another how to earn merits thread and you’re talking about merits but for some reason you replace the keyword merits with favour. Your merit history isn’t that impressive, would you say the reason why is because you haven’t found favour from older members or that you lack manners? Ass kissing merit sources and flattery could get you some merits but it can’t take you far.

Yes manners are important and generosity is something that every member in the forum should have so that communication in discussion is harmonious. But if you are really empty in good knowledge in anything on this forum, you should be more friendly in learning to those who are more senior, but if behind the account of the beginner is someone who has the ability to speak I think if you refute the argument of a higher rank account in my opinion it is a good thing, and that's where the discussion and debate lies, the most important thing is to know what to talk about and position yourself well with anyone in discussing on the forum, because everyone has a different character, so being wiser in arguing is very good.

For me, there's nothing like bad favor. Favor in itself is an approval, support or liking for someone or something or can also mean an act of kindness beyond what is due or usual so using the word bad favor doesn't just cut it for me. Generally, when you abide by the rules and regulations of the forum, you find it easy to operate here. Respect is reciprocal so when you accord respect the users here no matter their rank, you'd find same being accorded to you. Some users cozy up to the big names here so they can be "favored" , but treat the newbies with little to no respect but I don't think that's a cool way to be.

This is about the same thing the user is talking about. You attract positive attention your way when you not only post good topics, but also when you solve problems and also try to keep the forum as free of spam posts as much as possible.

Yes, when you disobey the rules that governed this platform and you are rewarded with the punishment that deserve for such offense show that you get a bad favour but a situation where by you follow the due process to make a quality post to attract the mind of professional users in the platform and you get a huge amount of merits or they celebrate you for bringing up such write up to impact users in the platform show, that you get a good favour from the platform. Don't forget that anything we are doing in this platform record are taking for our children children will like to read to know the role will play in the Bitcointalk.org either good or bad like the way everybody is in interested about the history of the founder of BTC Satoshi today.

I disagree with you in that aspect, by saying keeping the forum clean and reporting low quality are the area users get favour from people in this platform, well they are part of the source of the favour but the major favour that come to users in this platform are those users trying to correct newbies not to do wrong things that will encourage others upcoming newbies and, there are also set of people that get favour in the platform by appear as a first person in a thread to interpret the topic very well for other users to respond to that particular topic in a way it will bring impact to other newbies in the platform.

Yes, I have to admit that I didn't notice that and the OP could have definitely progressed a lot more than he actually is, but I guess the main problem is that he spends too much time in Gambling and Altcoins, and for some reason he doesn't have much success in his local board. When more than half of the activity is reduced to those boards, then the conclusion is more than clear - even the best members simply don't have much of a chance to get a few merits there.

It just shows how easy it used to be to advance in the ranks even if you spent all your time in Off topic or Gambling board.

while good manners is necessary when relating with people that are above you, it doesn't apply much to what is obtainable in this forum, what is basically expected of any person that is at his growth stage in the forum is that the person renders a meaningful and matured contribution to whatever diffusion he contributes in so that it automatically attract respect to him.

The point where courtesy becomes a necessity is when you are sharing a contrary view with others in the forum, that demands that you do it in a manner that will.shiw respect and not like you are trying to make them look foolish for making a seemingly wrong statement

This is not entirely correct. I don't know how many newbies I have seen fighting with others or poking others, or insulting others. But, I have seen a lot of high-ranked members who consistently engage in discussion with a negative mindset, and always try to find something wrong. For example, let's say you didn't know the difference between the gas fee and Bitcoin's sat/vB. While some members will tell you the difference and help you understand which one is used for which one and how fees are calculated, some others will start criticizing you because you were wrong.

There are another type of people who will always look for your mistake if you ever speak against them. They always deny their mistake and they believe that they cannot be wrong. The recent case of a one of the reputed member shows how anyone can be grounded due to bad manner. I guess you have seen Ratimov in this forum. He has a bad habit of attacking others whenever he see someone said something that he did not like.

So, yeah. It's important to have good manner and most importantly, A Thicker Skin.

Good conduct brings good relationship but still I don't know what comes about good manners over here to me since we aren't communicating facially there's no need for all this because when someone post you reply to the accordingly not by attacking that person or even if we don't have to post we should read through the whole thread and learn what others are saying I believe through there we can gain knowledge on what to say or not. What we should be more concerned about is security how we go about discussing with people and relating things with them because there are people  who think that anyone talking about bitcoin is having thousands of it.

The rules attached here Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ teach us to always uphold the values of honesty and courtesy. There are things you should not do here, such as posting plagiarism, fraud and so on. I also never found other users who uttered harsh words at other people who did wrong, what is often found here is only education that leads to good values.

Always be kind and humble even if your knowledge is higher than other users. Posting quality content can also be polite in other forms, indirectly you have provided knowledge to other users by using vocabulary that is easy to read and understand.

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Is there anything like bad favor? Hero the notes positivity so whether you add a good to it as a prefix or not doesn't make it anymore than favour.

Favour on Bitcoin talk comes about if any, by keeping the forum clean of spam through reporting low quality posts, plagiarized posts, scammers and defaulters of the forum ethics.

Having good manners is good but the most important thing here in this forum or what you should do best is not violating the forum rules and posting good/high quality posts which many forum members appreciate. If the post is not your own words then good luck with your account unless you provide the source on where you find it. Having good manners would also help you have a good communication with other forum members. If you ask me, what you should do first is to learn how to create good/high quality posts which will help other forum members understand you right away because if a forum member post a topic or discussion that is wrong grammar for example then it will take some time or a minute before we can understand or guess what it is since we will have to choose the right words that will explain what that person is trying to explain and second is, having good manners or personality.

This forum is an open place for one to easily learn and educates themselves they must not wait for anyone to start educating them.. We gone far away from those days were someone will call you or direct you to do something before you learn.

Naturally everything in today's world has been put in written form and it's best for you and I to develop the time and chance to face what we want and to gain the necessary knowledge we need to move us further rather than folding hands for someone here to come give you commands on what to be done or not. look very carefully this forum is large and if am not mistakenly it could take you about year (+) plus to cover up every sections of this forum and they all contained a resourceful material that you can read to know what you want to know.

Then on the moral of a thing, the thing is as a newbie or someone who is starting their journey here it's good to always play safe in order to get acquainted with the forum otherwise using the mentality of other social media to apply here will or might easily leads them to immediate ban because they refused to refresh their brains to suits with the forum standard.

It’s good to learn how to effectively communicate with people in any space you find yourself. Newbies should know that not everyone here will like you, even if you’re doing good there will still be trolls who take pleasure in bringing you down. Your focus shouldn’t be on being liked by older members but to grow your knowledge of cryptocurrency. The forum rewards competency. If you can build your account to be one of the best posters on the forum, you will get the merits (favour).

We could discuss here what someone considers "good manners", but I'm afraid that it would be a very long discussion with a lot of different opinions, which would not necessarily be wrong considering the cultural differences between the members of this forum. What I want to say is that most people on this forum only copy their virtues and flaws from real life, and if someone steals, lies and uses vulgar language in his society and family, then he will most likely do the same on the forum.

What is much more important is that each user familiarizes himself with the rules of the forum, and then he will understand what is good and what is bad behavior. Although I know that some people experience this forum in a completely different way than others, I think that some people exaggerate a bit and just put too much pressure on themselves.

Be yourself, read good posts, learn and pass on knowledge to others, and everything else is less important and comes naturally.

If you must succeed in life as a newbies or improve in this platform, you must learn how to develop good manners to people that are ahead of you because, they know what you don't  know in this platform and they can impact cryptocurrency knowledge to you in a way it will help you to grow higher in this bitcointalk.org. Good manners will lead you to obey the rules and regulations that governed Bitcointalk.org for you to enjoy the benefits that attached to the forum. If you look at the newbies we have in this platform these days, you will know that they don't have good manners and they are not ready to learn from those that above them to get good favour from them by improving in quality Post that will increase their rank up.


                            How to acquire good manners
1) Reading relevant books: If you want to acquire good manners dedicate yourself in relevant books that will make you to develop some attitude that will make people to feel like they want to be like you in that particular society.
2) Be ready to listen and act: Try to listen to those that know more than you, for example, I read many legendary and hero post and replies to acquire more knowledge of cryptocurrency to act in a way other members will see the improvement in me.
3) Be patience when good favour is not yet coming: Be patience, if want you are expecting is not coming which is the best way to acquire good manners by waiting for the right time to come.
Do good manners bring good favour to you since you joined this Bitcointalk.org? Or what do you have to add in this topic to encourage newbies in the aspect of good manners?