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November 14, 2018, 04:00:16 PM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-13/u-s-budget-gap-jumps-to-100-billion-at-start-of-fiscal-year

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In Trump’s first full fiscal year that ended in September, the budget gap grew to $779 billion, the highest level since 2012.
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November 13, 2018, 02:20:43 PM
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So far I have not seen ANY bank bailouts, quantitative easing nonsense, nothing of the sort from Trump.



Pretty much the GOP cut tax income; so instead of getting a surplus of income, there's way less income. Bailout for the ultra wealthy...

To put it simply:

It's like Obama going to buy a house and car while earning $100k a year. The house/car only costs $190k, so only $90k in debt.

Trump pretty much only bought a house (the trade war) which was like $150k, but then quit his current job and took a job only making $15k / year. So, now he has  $135k in debt, and it'll take him much longer to pay off the debt than what Obama would have.
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November 13, 2018, 10:04:33 AM
#25

Whatever argument that was.

I think my argument is the one that stands as true.

"Nobody gets anywhere close to the looting done by Obama."

You must look at the bank bailouts, the "infrastructure spending" and other handouts which are giveaways to the political interests. Basically, that's looting. Spending on medicare and military, like it or not, isn't looting for the most part.

So far I have not seen ANY bank bailouts, quantitative easing nonsense, nothing of the sort from Trump.

He's gotten the economy doing quite well, and without any fakery.
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November 12, 2018, 11:47:05 PM
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deleted garbage chart

Tell me more.
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It is unfortunate the amount of cognitive dissonance you seem to be able to just wash away. Your own words contradict themselves, but I am the one who is wrong. Ok.
I am also sorry you feel the need to shotgun reports any time you make yourself look stupid and I point it out, knowing the moderator will take any opportunity to silence opinions he doesn't agree with (as long as he has plausible deniability).

this is a rather interesting group of summaries of the budgets, the deficits, and the national debt, organized by president.

https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

Nobody gets anywhere close to the looting done by Obama.
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November 12, 2018, 08:53:54 PM
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..... a child can understand these charts....
Big pictures sure do help, don't they?
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November 12, 2018, 09:22:59 AM
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Tell me more.

Cause words are hard for you, I know; but see at the top there where it says "deficit / surplus", right?

Deficit is when it's in the negatives, surplus when it's in the positives. Of course a child can understand these charts. I don't understand why your reading comprehension skills are so sub-par. I think you're just acting like an idiot on purpose to get a rise out others.

Roll Eyes
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November 12, 2018, 09:11:47 AM
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You cannot trust Republican with money ever.
Also you'll notice on your charts the Republicans send us back in the right direction and the Democrats are the ones to turn it back around every time.

You do know those charts are highlighting growth of debt? So, when the chart goes up, that's a BAD thing. When the charts go down, that's a good thing.

I'm amazed that you can't even read basic charts.




Tell me more.
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November 12, 2018, 09:04:31 AM
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You cannot trust Republican with money ever.
Also you'll notice on your charts the Republicans send us back in the right direction and the Democrats are the ones to turn it back around every time.

You do know those charts are highlighting growth of debt? So, when the chart goes up, that's a BAD thing. When the charts go down, that's a good thing.

I'm amazed that you can't even read basic charts.
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November 12, 2018, 08:44:09 AM
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You cannot trust Republican with money ever.

Clinton never had a surplus. Also any success he has was a direct result of the massive real estate fraud which eventually caused the 2008 collapse, as well as tax revenue from the dot com bubble. Also you'll notice on your charts the Republicans send us back in the right direction and the Democrats are the ones to turn it back around every time.

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

https://newrepublic.com/article/76709/who-created-the-1990s-surplus-clinton-or-the-gop

http://www.tommullen.net/featured/the-bill-clinton-myth-finally-debunked/

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November 12, 2018, 04:47:55 AM
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You cannot trust Republican with money ever.

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November 11, 2018, 10:26:37 PM
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Cool story bro: https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-under-obama-3306293


Yeah, who do they think they are letting us keep more of our own money? That money belongs to the government by all rights!
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November 11, 2018, 09:23:57 PM
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No ducking and dodging, please. You made the assertion, please support it. Open secrets is a pretty big cloud of data. It's no better than a response like "Google it."

https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/nov/05/tammy-baldwin/ten-times-more-dark-money-has-been-spent-2016-elec/

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Some 86 percent was spent by conservative groups, 11 percent by liberal groups and 3 percent by other groups.

"BUT WHERE'S THE SOURCE!!!"

Opensecrets, if you're actually wanting to compare records conservatives vs liberals. Now that Republicans have passed bills making certain political donations entirely anonymous, we're going to lose this transparency.

Way to go assclowns looting the coffers.
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November 11, 2018, 06:43:44 PM
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Follow the money you. When one party receives tens of millions of dollars and the other party receives hundreds of thousands of dollars, you say both parties are equal, when in reality, they're really not.
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You really want to follow the money, or you want to slide away from this issue and quickly move to another subject?

Topic's about the GOP looting the coffers. Leaving all the debt. The newly posted link is totally on topic, your shit-tier troll comment isn't on topic.

I'm on topic, dude. Where is the tens of millions vs the hundreds of thousands?
https://www.opensecrets.org/

 Roll Eyes

I recommend looking into Jill Stein first.

No ducking and dodging, please. You made the assertion, please support it. Open secrets is a pretty big cloud of data. It's no better than a response like "Google it."
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November 11, 2018, 06:11:59 PM
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Follow the money you. When one party receives tens of millions of dollars and the other party receives hundreds of thousands of dollars, you say both parties are equal, when in reality, they're really not.
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You really want to follow the money, or you want to slide away from this issue and quickly move to another subject?

Topic's about the GOP looting the coffers. Leaving all the debt. The newly posted link is totally on topic, your shit-tier troll comment isn't on topic.

I'm on topic, dude. Where is the tens of millions vs the hundreds of thousands?
https://www.opensecrets.org/

 Roll Eyes

I recommend looking into Jill Stein first.
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November 11, 2018, 04:24:22 PM
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Follow the money you. When one party receives tens of millions of dollars and the other party receives hundreds of thousands of dollars, you say both parties are equal, when in reality, they're really not.
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You really want to follow the money, or you want to slide away from this issue and quickly move to another subject?

Topic's about the GOP looting the coffers. Leaving all the debt. The newly posted link is totally on topic, your shit-tier troll comment isn't on topic.

I'm on topic, dude. Where is the tens of millions vs the hundreds of thousands?
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November 11, 2018, 04:15:03 PM
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Follow the money you. When one party receives tens of millions of dollars and the other party receives hundreds of thousands of dollars, you say both parties are equal, when in reality, they're really not.
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You really want to follow the money, or you want to slide away from this issue and quickly move to another subject?

Topic's about the GOP looting the coffers. Leaving all the debt. The newly posted link is totally on topic, your shit-tier troll comment isn't on topic.
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November 11, 2018, 04:12:26 PM
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Follow the money you. When one party receives tens of millions of dollars and the other party receives hundreds of thousands of dollars, you say both parties are equal, when in reality, they're really not.
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You really want to follow the money, or you want to slide away from this issue and quickly move to another subject?
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November 11, 2018, 04:03:05 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/defense-debt-us-spending-trump-medicaid-treasury-federal-health-care-interest-1210907



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This is a great time to remind everyone that if it wasn't for Bush and Trump tax cuts and our wars in the Middle East, we would be running a surplus for the past 20 years.
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