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April 03, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
#27
I don't see how this would be anti-freedom of speech. You can have an alt to post 'controversial' optinions or sell something if you don't want it associated with your other account, but there's no good reason why you would need multiple accounts to sell the exact same thing other than to spam advertise which is exactly his intent.
Say you have one account that you are selling widgets on, and you have an opinion regarding some issue/topic unrelated to widgets. You then make what turns out to be a controversial statement about this topic, and this statement is so controversial that some people don't want to trade with you anymore -- you still trade honestly, and still sell a quality product. You might then want to create an alt account to well widgets that is not associated with this controversial statement/opinion, however if your first account stops selling widgets at the same time your alt account starts selling them, then your alt might stick out like a sore thumb as being the same as you. If you were not allowed to continue selling widgets on your first account while your alt account is also selling widgets, then you might refrain from making statements in the first place.

I think this would be an exceptionally unlikely circumstance but they would be evaluated on a case by case basis, but I would say just don't get caught selling on another account.

He doesn't have any excuses. Never known a user like him.
Interesting. I wonder if he will be back.



Almost certainly will be if he's not already. He's pretty much tried to evade his ban on dozens of accounts almost continually since he got permabanned in January. I'm locking this thread now because it's served its purpose and is just going off topic.
 
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April 03, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
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You're not that bright, are you?

I told you, that account is no longer until my control.  I don't control the email address, and I don't know the password.

Name any account other than Vod, that I operate, fool, or shut your lying mouth.

I only operate one account too cos I logged out of my 70 alts 5 minutes ago. /s
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April 03, 2017, 12:39:32 AM
#25
Name another account I operate, fool.
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You're not that bright, are you?

I told you, that account is no longer until my control.  I don't control the email address, and I don't know the password.

Name any account other than Vod, that I operate, fool, or shut your lying mouth.
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April 02, 2017, 11:53:02 PM
#24
I don't see how this would be anti-freedom of speech. You can have an alt to post 'controversial' optinions or sell something if you don't want it associated with your other account, but there's no good reason why you would need multiple accounts to sell the exact same thing other than to spam advertise which is exactly his intent.
Say you have one account that you are selling widgets on, and you have an opinion regarding some issue/topic unrelated to widgets. You then make what turns out to be a controversial statement about this topic, and this statement is so controversial that some people don't want to trade with you anymore -- you still trade honestly, and still sell a quality product. You might then want to create an alt account to well widgets that is not associated with this controversial statement/opinion, however if your first account stops selling widgets at the same time your alt account starts selling them, then your alt might stick out like a sore thumb as being the same as you. If you were not allowed to continue selling widgets on your first account while your alt account is also selling widgets, then you might refrain from making statements in the first place.

He doesn't have any excuses. Never known a user like him.
Interesting. I wonder if he will be back.

I am very proud to only operate a single account.  Smiley
No you don't lol.

This from a proven liar?   Roll Eyes

Name another account I operate, fool.
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April 02, 2017, 10:18:31 PM
#23
Somebody nuke this fool, else he's going to burn his fingerprints off trying to type his BS rants, and in the interim not reading a word that hilariousandco is writing.  And then QS--no surprise--is going to continue playing devil's advocate for this dude.

This is the equivalent of a women's jailhouse dorm, where everyone has their monthly friend at the same time.  Can't we all just get along, ladies?  Do we really need to start sharpening spoons on the concrete?

Edit:  And hilariousandco is being exceedingly generous with his time explaining the reason for this ban.  More generous than I'd be with this knucklehead.
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April 02, 2017, 12:15:10 PM
#22
I am very proud to only operate a single account.  Smiley
No you don't lol.

This from a proven liar?   Roll Eyes

Name another account I operate, fool.
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April 02, 2017, 11:09:43 AM
#21
I am not familiar with a 'one thread per person' rule....maybe you are referring to the rule that similar marketplace items should be consolidated into a single thread.

Yes, the Marketplace rules. Services can't have multiple threads and individual sellers can't have multiple threads to sell or promote the same thing.

If you are selling the same thing via multiple accounts *AND* are bumping each accounts' respective threads every day, then you are, at a minimum rubbing up against the one bump per 24 hours rule.

This is exactly what he's doing on multiple main accounts and countless other newbie accounts who's sole purpose was to bump his thread by either feigning interest or faking a trade then leaving a fake vouch. He's also leaving feedback with his alts (not against the rules but pretty scammy (and then there's the dozens and dozens and dozens of hacked accounts he doesn't seem to want to answer where he got them from)).

I guess my concern about mandating that you can only sell the same item via one account is that it gives incentives to not take unpopular stances on issues, which is anti-freedom of speech.

I don't see how this would be anti-freedom of speech. You can have an alt to post 'controversial' optinions or sell something if you don't want it associated with your other account, but there's no good reason why you would need multiple accounts to sell the exact same thing other than to spam advertise which is exactly his intent.

For clarification, I don't disagree with the OP's ban, assuming that what you say about him is true (or mostly true, if he is able to poke a small hole in what you say).

He's just just clutching at straws and trying to wriggle out by a technicality on one of the many rules he broke. He doesn't have any excuses. Never known a user like him.
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April 02, 2017, 05:32:20 AM
#20
Is there a written rule somewhere that people cannot sell the same item via multiple accounts? Or is this something that is more along the lines of a mod's interpretation of the rules?

I don't think there is one that explicitly says You cannot use alts to sell the same thing so you can take it as my interpretation if you wish, but it directly contravenes the one thread per person and one bump every 24 hours rules. It can certainly be added to the rules, but this is exactly why BadBear was against posting them in the first place because people then just try to evade them on technicalities. OP knows you can only have one thread per person per same item/service. He knows you can only bump once per 24 hours, hence why he uses multiple accounts and dozens of others to bump them. It's a direct attempt to evade rules and spam the forum. He was told about this numerous times, on numerous accounts and had numerous bans yet he ignored them every single time and continues to do so.
I am not familiar with a 'one thread per person' rule....maybe you are referring to the rule that similar marketplace items should be consolidated into a single thread.

If you are selling the same thing via multiple accounts *AND* are bumping each accounts' respective threads every day, then you are, at a minimum rubbing up against the one bump per 24 hours rule.

I guess my concern about mandating that you can only sell the same item via one account is that it gives incentives to not take unpopular stances on issues, which is anti-freedom of speech. Although selling the same item via 6 or 10 accounts is somewhat 'spammy'. However, if someone is selling the same thing via that many accounts, I think there is a decent chance they are breaking other rules anyway.

For clarification, I don't disagree with the OP's ban, assuming that what you say about him is true (or mostly true, if he is able to poke a small hole in what you say). Also, considering that he received warnings via PM from moderator(s), even if the rule violations he was warned about were not actually against the rules (I would not say this is the case), his appropriate course of action would have been to either reply to the PM to get the moderator to agree that no rule was broken (or escalate to a mod with a higher authority to get a higher authority to agree that no rule was broken), or he should have opened a thread in meta for discussion, with a resulting consensus among those that matter that no rule was broken.


I am very proud to only operate a single account.  Smiley
No you don't lol.
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April 02, 2017, 04:40:38 AM
#19
Is there a written rule somewhere that people cannot sell the same item via multiple accounts? Or is this something that is more along the lines of a mod's interpretation of the rules?

I don't think there is one that explicitly says You cannot use alts to sell the same thing so you can take it as my interpretation if you wish, but it directly contravenes the one thread per person and one bump every 24 hours rules. It can certainly be added to the rules, but this is exactly why BadBear was against posting them in the first place because people then just try to evade them on technicalities. OP knows you can only have one thread per person per same item/service. He knows you can only bump once per 24 hours, hence why he uses multiple accounts and dozens of others to bump them. It's a direct attempt to evade rules and spam the forum. He was told about this numerous times, on numerous accounts and had numerous bans yet he ignored them every single time and continues to do so.
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April 02, 2017, 04:04:36 AM
#18
Is there a written rule somewhere that people cannot sell the same item via multiple accounts? Or is this something that is more along the lines of a mod's interpretation of the rules?

I think it's been shown from experience that multiple accounts are used to commit fraud - via artificially boosting popularity, or committing escrow fraud. 

Anything above board can be accomplished with running only one account.  I am very proud to only operate a single account.  Smiley
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April 02, 2017, 03:20:51 AM
#17
Using alt accounts to sell the same thing
I don't think this is against the rules.

Yes it is. You can't skirt the 'one thread' rule by having half a dozen accounts to sell the exact same thing. It's pure spam, not to mention using dozens more accounts to spam bump his multiple threads every day and also ban evade whenever he was banned on an account.
Is there a written rule somewhere that people cannot sell the same item via multiple accounts? Or is this something that is more along the lines of a mod's interpretation of the rules?

I agree that using alt accounts to bump your own threads (especially well in excess of once per 24 hours) should be frowned upon (I can see value to answering your own question provided that the question and answer happen very close to each-other -- and this does not happen frequently). Obviously ban evasion is not allowed, but that is a very different rule.
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April 02, 2017, 02:20:52 AM
#16
Using alt accounts to sell the same thing
I don't think this is against the rules.

Yes it is. You can't skirt the 'one thread' rule by having half a dozen accounts to sell the exact same thing. It's pure spam, not to mention using dozens more accounts to spam bump his multiple threads every day and also ban evade whenever he was banned on an account.

learn from your mistakes , and quit forum for several months and then come back fresh again and contribute to some mature talks/knowlwdge on bitcointalk.

He's been told this numerous times by several people but he's not interested. He is incapable of playing by any rules nor does he listen to dozens of warnings and because of this he'll never be permitted to sell here again. The fact that he continues to use hundreds of hacked bitcointalk accounts tells you all you need to know about him.
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April 01, 2017, 10:58:08 PM
#15
hilariousandco is the most tolerant mod here, good to see him in action now. For OP i generally don't find hilariousandco  banning people but if he has done it then there would be obvious reasons.
With the reference that mod provided, i see that there were dozen of accounts registered in 2010 vouching for you , did not you realized that one with sound mind will find that.

Why to have alt accounts? i don't see any reason.. Angry except you have some buy/sell/scam/vendetta/.../

I have only one account that is my alt: chevasout  Wink , i practically feel that it is worthless to have many accounts here.


@OP , learn from your mistakes , and quit forum for several months and then come back fresh again and contribute to some mature talks/knowlwdge on bitcointalk.
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April 01, 2017, 08:05:28 PM
#14
Using alt accounts to sell the same thing
I don't think this is against the rules.
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March 31, 2017, 08:29:31 AM
#13
How can i accept my fault if it wasn`t !?

I'm not sure whether you're just trolling or are a complete idiot at this point because you still can't accept you're wrong and own up to your mistakes. It's not your fault that you created multiple threads with multiple accounts and refused to follow the Marketplace rules? It's not your fault you can't remove bumps and keep bumping multiple times a day even after countless warnings and bans? Who's fault is it for all the hacked accounts you are still using on a daily basis in a pathetic and futile attempt to evade your ban? I'll tell you who's: yours. You know the rules and you ignore them every single time. I would have probably let it slide had you of just tried to sell on one account and followed the marketplace rules but you continually refuse to do this.

Again , i think you are the guy who protect scammers , did you had any complain against me to call me a scammer ? if yes show me a proof ( now we can see who`s the liar )

Make the proofs public ( if you have them )

Ok. Care to explain this thread by your alt boomin https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17885930

Even though you know it's against the rules to evade your ban, bump multiple times a day and use alt accounts to evade the bump rules you continue to do it day after day, not to mention you're using hacked accounts to do so as 99% of the accounts in that thread have been dormant for years until they magically reactivate to give you a vouch or ask a question in yet another attempt to evade the bump rules.

The following accounts are all blatantly hacked as they're registered in 2010 and don't make any posts for years until they wake up to post in your thread:

how can i buy bitme invite ? Do you accept Paypal ?

Thevault.bz is available ?

bought a theplace invite from him smooth deal .

can I buy a torrentleech invite ?

bought a bibliotik account and everything is good

Do you have an email address ? i want to buy something

Passtheheadphones invite available ?

Those are just from the first two pages and there's plenty more on the following ones and that's just from one thread from one of your many accounts and you've done exactly the same countless times. Care to explain where you got these hacked accounts from? I'm guessing you just hacked them yourself like you do with your torrents so stop trying to take everyone for a fool and make out like you're a legit guy because you're not.

Yes i`m frustraded because you banned many trusted guys arround here , search on google to see how many complains are against you


There's lots of complaints against you and your various alts on google too, but by trusted people you mean all butthurt crybabies that don't like it when they can't follow rules? Half of the hits on google seem to be from you childishly complaining on your various accounts anyway. I'm really not sure what you're expecting here now because we've already established you're a liar and a scammer and use hacked accounts and you've proved several times that you're never going to be able to follow or respect the rules and that's exactly why you'll never be allowed to post here again. Stop being an idiot and move on.
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March 31, 2017, 07:19:24 AM
#12
I vouched negative just to one guy with multiple accounts because he has a war with me ( he scammed me in past )

But neah you can`t see that you are to blind.

Anyway like a good bye ( because you`ll erase all posts like you did untill now ) i will post again in meta untill A GUY WITH THE HEAD BETWEEN HIS SHOULDERS WILL SEE IT !


Ps : Sorry for my language , i am trying to explain my situation with this ,, Global MOd " guy .

I hope he`ll understand my frustration explained in my words , if not i will ask him to write what he thinks in my language ( Romanian )

It's baffling to me how you never accept that this is your fault and continue to blame others. You vouched positive on your own accounts and used hacked alt accounts to spam bump your own threads on multiple accounts. This is still many months after your original permaban for such behaviour. You don't learn. Any problems or frustrations you have are your own fault because you disregard all rules and warnings and try evade them every single time. If you don't have anything constructive to add or an explanation on where you are getting these hacked accounts from then just stop wasting both of our time because you're just a lying scammer who's run out of excuses and I'm getting tired of responding to these "why was I banned" threads you keep naively posting every month.


How can i accept my fault if it wasn`t !?

You tryed to find the niddle in the ocean with me !  

Again , i think you are the guy who protect scammers , did you had any complain against me to call me a scammer ? if yes show me a proof ( now we can see who`s the liar )

Make the proofs public ( if you have them )

Yes i`m frustraded because you banned many trusted guys arround here , search on google to see how many complains are against you
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March 31, 2017, 06:11:26 AM
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LOLZ, good riddance
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March 31, 2017, 06:05:06 AM
#10
I vouched negative just to one guy with multiple accounts because he has a war with me ( he scammed me in past )

But neah you can`t see that you are to blind.

Anyway like a good bye ( because you`ll erase all posts like you did untill now ) i will post again in meta untill A GUY WITH THE HEAD BETWEEN HIS SHOULDERS WILL SEE IT !


Ps : Sorry for my language , i am trying to explain my situation with this ,, Global MOd " guy .

I hope he`ll understand my frustration explained in my words , if not i will ask him to write what he thinks in my language ( Romanian )

It's baffling to me how you never accept that this is your fault and continue to blame others. You vouched positive on your own accounts and used hacked alt accounts to spam bump your own threads on multiple accounts. This is still many months after your original permaban for such behaviour. You don't learn. Any problems or frustrations you have are your own fault because you disregard all rules and warnings and try evade them every single time. If you don't have anything constructive to add or an explanation on where you are getting these hacked accounts from then just stop wasting both of our time because you're just a lying scammer who's run out of excuses and I'm getting tired of responding to these "why was I banned" threads you keep naively posting every month.
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March 31, 2017, 05:38:00 AM
#9
The you banned me previously for no reason and you are trying to keep my mouth shut , you can`t do that anymore !

You are A LIAR !  You banned me previously for excessivle bumping and you banned me for 7 days wasn`t a problem afte that i didn`t make that and you banned me !

No, you're the liar or you seem to selectively forget about things. How exactly were you banned for no reason? You were banned for:

Never removing bumps
Bumping several times in 24 hours
Using alt accounts to sell the same thing
Using alt accounts to spam bump your threads (and also fake vouching/leaving feedback on your alts)
Multiple counts of ban evasion.

1)I got banned for 7 days true it was my fault
2) yeah i made that
3 ) where did you saw that rulle because i didn`t saw it
4 ) i used some accounts to bump my threads but i made that because you didn`t saw the other who made that aswell ( I`m the only one black ship at the board )
5 ) multiple accounts to write the truth

You were warned via PM and posts numerous times on numerous accounts about bump spam and you never learned. You then had numerous bans and either evaded them or just carried on the behaviour when the bans expired. Your bans are entirely your fault because you are either unwilling or unable to follow rules or somehow think they don't apply to you.

1 ) i`v been warned HUH ? mate i think you are smooking weed
2 ) i evaded the bans to tell the truth and no one can listen to me.
I never hacked and i don`t know how to hack something...

Then why have you used dozens of hacked bitcointalk accounts that suddenly 'wake up' after years of inactivity to sell your torrent invites? Where did you get this Melvster one from? Where did you get https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rhorning-344 RHorning from? Or  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jesusgp-71661 JesusGP. The Jesus account was a 0-post Newbie account registered in 2012. You're either hacking them yourself (more likely) or buying them from someone who is. If the latter is true then please provide proof of who you've been buying them off. I really doubt you're wasting all this money on buying these old accounts from someone when you know they're likely just going to get banned straight away.

Like i said you are a NOOB in what are you doing  i never hacked an account i bought them to make my business but you are haunting me ...

You are a BIG liar and trying to put words in my mounth but you can`t do that.

Fake vouches:

Got an invite from Melvster

I can vouch for him

I got $250 btc thanks to @RHorning and will make sure to leave forum feedback as that seem to be important.

I am still in need of the rest which is $150 btc and will trade $200 paypal

I'm sure you would have scammed for that Paypal by doing a chargeback if someone was dumb enough to send you it.

OMG ! It`s your presumtion or what , from this words you are trying to denigrate me lol  i never tought you can say that bullshit.

Ask Cyrus because i warned him about many scammers .

Btw i am the seller not the buyer so how can i do a chargeback ! OMFG

I`m waiting a ban again because i am telling the truth and no one can see that .

You'll be banned as soon as you post outside of Meta.

that`s tright bann me because i am telling the truth

I hope Theymos to see that because all this Mud is because of you.

I will never stop to telling the truth ! EVEN I WILL BANNED CONSTANTLY !

You're not telling the truth. You seem incapable of doing so, but your accounts will never stop being banned either so you're just wasting your time.


Scammers aren't banned but you didn't provide any proof whatsoever. If you can provide proof that they're breaking a rule then I'll handle them. At the moment it just looks like a lying scammer trying to get rid of his competition.

How can i have a competition if i`m banned , dude you are sick !?
Make your duty and take care of scammers but you are a noob ....

You are friendly with the hackers and scammers and bann the good guys who trying to sell LEGIT STUFF .

Again, drop the I'm a legit guy shtick. Even if your torrent accounts aren't hacked you're certainly using dozens of hacked bitcointalk accounts to sell them, not to mention then countless times you've been caught fake vouching and leaving fake feedback so it doesn't really look good, does it?

I vouched negative just to one guy with multiple accounts because he has a war with me ( he scammed me in past )

But neah you can`t see that you are to blind.

Anyway like a good bye ( because you`ll erase all posts like you did untill now ) i will post again in meta untill A GUY WITH THE HEAD BETWEEN HIS SHOULDERS WILL SEE IT !


Ps : Sorry for my language , i am trying to explain my situation with this ,, Global MOd " guy .

I hope he`ll understand my frustration explained in my words , if not i will ask him to write what he thinks in my language ( Romanian )
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March 31, 2017, 04:42:45 AM
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The you banned me previously for no reason and you are trying to keep my mouth shut , you can`t do that anymore !

You are A LIAR !  You banned me previously for excessivle bumping and you banned me for 7 days wasn`t a problem afte that i didn`t make that and you banned me !

No, you're the liar or you seem to selectively forget about things. How exactly were you banned for no reason? You were banned for:

Never removing bumps
Bumping several times in 24 hours
Using alt accounts to sell the same thing
Using alt accounts to spam bump your threads (and also fake vouching/leaving feedback on your alts)
Multiple counts of ban evasion.

You were warned via PM and posts numerous times on numerous accounts about bump spam and you never learned. You then had numerous bans and either evaded them or just carried on the behaviour when the bans expired. Your bans are entirely your fault because you are either unwilling or unable to follow rules or somehow think they don't apply to you.

I never hacked and i don`t know how to hack something...

Then why have you used dozens of hacked bitcointalk accounts that suddenly 'wake up' after years of inactivity to sell your torrent invites? Where did you get this Melvster one from? Where did you get https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rhorning-344 RHorning from? Or  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jesusgp-71661 JesusGP. The Jesus account was a 0-post Newbie account registered in 2012. You're either hacking them yourself (more likely) or buying them from someone who is. If the latter is true then please provide proof of who you've been buying them off. I really doubt you're wasting all this money on buying these old accounts from someone when you know they're likely just going to get banned straight away.

Fake vouches:

Got an invite from Melvster

I can vouch for him

I got $250 btc thanks to @RHorning and will make sure to leave forum feedback as that seem to be important.

I am still in need of the rest which is $150 btc and will trade $200 paypal

I'm sure you would have scammed for that Paypal by doing a chargeback if someone was dumb enough to send you it.

I`m waiting a ban again because i am telling the truth and no one can see that .

You'll be banned as soon as you post outside of Meta.

I will never stop to telling the truth ! EVEN I WILL BANNED CONSTANTLY !

You're not telling the truth. You seem incapable of doing so, but your accounts will never stop being banned either so you're just wasting your time.


Scammers aren't banned but you didn't provide any proof whatsoever. If you can provide proof that they're breaking a rule then I'll handle them. At the moment it just looks like a lying scammer trying to get rid of his competition.

You are friendly with the hackers and scammers and bann the good guys who trying to sell LEGIT STUFF .

Again, drop the I'm a legit guy shtick. Even if your torrent accounts aren't hacked you're certainly using dozens of hacked bitcointalk accounts to sell them, not to mention then countless times you've been caught fake vouching and leaving fake feedback so it doesn't really look good, does it?
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