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December 02, 2023, 11:27:09 AM
As for the OP's situation, I understand the frustration and loss associated with losing a significant amount of Bitcoin. It's important to acknowledge these emotions and allow time for healing. However, it's also important to accept the possibility that the lost Bitcoins may never be recovered.

In the meantime, the OP should focus on preventive measures to safeguard their remaining cryptocurrency assets. Investing in a hardware wallet, practicing good cybersecurity habits, and maintaining backups are crucial steps to protect against future losses.

While the situation is unfortunate, it serves as a reminder to all cryptocurrency holders to prioritize security and take proactive measures to protect their digital assets.
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December 02, 2023, 10:44:55 AM
We need more information to be able to piece together what happened.

The Bitcoin Core was running on what OS?

What were you doing around the time of the theft?

Bitcoin Core wallets are protected by a password, they don't use seed phrase technology but rely on some "hdseed" that's similar but will not be encrypted without a password. Therefore if the wallet file is stolen, it can be brute-forced for weak passwords.

Well, the hacker obviously got hold of the password... to be able to do that. Did you leave your computer running for extended times without watching it? (They could have installed keyboard logging tools and waited for you to leave the room and then logged in and transferred the funds)  Huh

The bulk of my "treasure" are stored off-line so I know that it will not be accessible .....and it is split into smaller amounts, so even if someone hack me, they will only get access to say 1% of my coins.

I also put out "bait" in the form of small amounts of coins in desktop wallets ...so if that is triggered, then I know I am being targeted.

Sorry for your loss.  Sad Sad Sad

Very very smart. Having multiple cold wallets on different technologies is very smart. Additionally I only use a dedicated device to manage my monies with. It has or does nothing else, ever.

The honeypot idea is great.
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December 02, 2023, 10:34:55 AM
This is definitely a big loss, if I had that much bitcoins, I would have it stored on an online and a personal wallet, this; I believe the number one mistake op made, 11 bitcoins is not a small amount of money, and even if you don't have money anymore, you could sold a tiny portion of it and buy yourself a good hardware wallet which you could use as a cold storage for the remaining number of bitcoin.


This is what makes me doubt the OP's story. How could someone with such a large fortune be so careless that it was unacceptable? I bet that if it were me or anyone on this forum who owned that amount of bitcoin, we would definitely buy ourselves 1 to 3 hardware wallets to store bitcoin. No one would be stupid and careless enough to store it on a computer with a regular internet connection like the OP is saying.

We're talking about 11 bitcoins and each 1 bitcoin is worth almost $39k, so I'm really sorry OP because I can't believe your story.
legendary
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December 01, 2023, 04:01:23 PM
This is definitely a big loss, if I had that much bitcoins, I would have it stored on an online and a personal wallet, this; I believe the number one mistake op made, 11 bitcoins is not a small amount of money, and even if you don't have money anymore, you could sold a tiny portion of it and buy yourself a good hardware wallet which you could use as a cold storage for the remaining number of bitcoin.

Well, this I believe is what we always have been saying that decentralization comes at with a prize, a sacrifice..

Many of us profess and confess that we agree and are ready for a decentralized society, meanwhile, our actions and inactions does not show that indeed, we are ready for a complete decentralized society.

Sorry op, for your loss.
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December 01, 2023, 12:47:23 PM
Very sorry to know that your wallet has been hacked. And you lost 11 bitcoins. That's a big loss in someone eye but you do not care. Be careful in future. Better to use a hardware wallet. And keep your computer free from viruses, worms and Trojan horses etc. So that hackers and evil geniuses can't hack your computer.
And as far as your personality is concerned, it seems that you are very courageous and possess strong nerves. And small problems and worries can't spoil you. And you have bravely resumed your work. It's a very good thing.
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November 30, 2023, 01:27:42 AM
I always suggest using or at least reading the glacier protocol https://glacierprotocol.org/ guide to set up a "state of the art" cold wallet. and to understand all security implications.

I recommend OP (but I'm sure he knows) to avoid any service that talks about "recovering stolen bitcoins" or similar things. These are only scam and will drain other value Sad
At most, rely on some service to "track" these coins...

Really? From the Glacier website: "For most people, most of the time, the authors recommend storing Bitcoin using a high-quality online storage service....Some popular options are Blockchain, Coinbase, Gemini, and Kraken."

thanks for pointing it out to me. as advice it is certainly questionable no more to add. agree with you.
I didn't mean to suggest something like that (even though, most of us who have entered this world, probably started via an exchange without major security settings)...

I want recommend glacier protocol for the inputs it provides in the setup of a cold wallet.
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November 28, 2023, 09:36:43 PM
I always suggest using or at least reading the glacier protocol https://glacierprotocol.org/ guide to set up a "state of the art" cold wallet. and to understand all security implications.

I recommend OP (but I'm sure he knows) to avoid any service that talks about "recovering stolen bitcoins" or similar things. These are only scam and will drain other value Sad
At most, rely on some service to "track" these coins...

Really? From the Glacier website: "For most people, most of the time, the authors recommend storing Bitcoin using a high-quality online storage service....Some popular options are Blockchain, Coinbase, Gemini, and Kraken."
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November 28, 2023, 05:12:12 PM
If you have not installed that voice changer software, the hacker
he said he never enter password after this wife-install. so this all is somewhat strange. without password if hackers drag your comp to their den they'll get nothing still.
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November 27, 2023, 11:21:40 PM
And this test transaction was the bottom of the address to send to you? But where is the evidence of actual hack or if it was actually a hack at all? Maybe someone took the coins having access to the PC, before the authorities figure out what exactly happened, coming here and saying his wallet was hacked is just wrong, how do we know the truth? So talking and speculating about it is not constructive.
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November 27, 2023, 10:46:07 PM
I am writing to confirm that the op is the owner., the test transaction was made to my public address.
https://blockchair.com/es/bitcoin/transaction/fe958a881b7fdc2d59349f3285adfe242da2007a17c4d7e05b835572aac4716a

I'm sorry for your situation.
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November 27, 2023, 05:57:33 PM
One final post, then I'm just going to look forward and leave this mess behind.  Some points.

1. I'm an idiot.  I accept that. I hope sharing this experience can help others avoid the same mistakes that I made.

2. I can't figure out the message signing with the segwit address.  Wish that worked with the Bitcoin Core GUI wallet. Tried Electrum, but had no luck.  Not something I need to waste time with at this point.  If there is a mod or a trusted member of the forum willing, I'd be fine with sending some sats to them from my wallet. Send me a private message.  As others have said, that still doesn't prove anything, so whatever.

3. I joined this forum about 10 years ago.  I don't visit very often these days.  Merit points or whatever mean nothing to me.  Give me negative merits, just does not matter.

4. I have reported this theft to my local police as well as filed a cyber incident report with my state and the FBI.  I don't expect anything from that outside of being a statistical data point.

5. I know exactly where this malware came from that got us.  Website, file name, time, etc.

6. I contacted one of those recover your Bitcoin bounty hunters, but it's a scam.  I figured as much, but wanted to hear what they were going to say. The BS they were spouting was kind of funny.
 
7. I still love Bitcoin, my wife and my life. While this really sucks, it's not the end of the world for us.

Peace and love, yours truly, soulcity   



1. Anyone makes a mistake.

2. check this https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/51480/send-coins-with-electrum-from-encrypted-wallet-created-with-bitcoin-core
If you manage to import it you can sign the message.
or send the sats to me, it is a public address that is easy for everyone to verify.

3. Pray that the FBI catches them if they are from a country with extradition laws.

4. Report it to the antivirus, if you want to contribute.

5. Don't believe in bounty hunters, if it is already difficult to recover your coins when you forget parts of the seed, imagine the probability when you were hacked.

6. don't doubt your wife.

Cheer up!.
hero member
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November 27, 2023, 05:42:00 PM
Op's story also makes me think that, to be honest, 11 bitcoins is no longer considered a joke; it's a huge amount if I calculate it at the price it has right now.

If I ever have bitcoin, I will definitely split it into different hardware wallets. And I will hide the seed phrase in the variety of flash drives. But putting it in storage that is not really safe but that you thought was safe is a big mistake. And I can't even tell if you're telling the truth in your story, though my TXID record was shown to you.

But even so, you should have put your bitcoins in different non-custodial wallets so that at least if there is a problem with the wallets, there are other bitcoins hidden, so I am saddened by the loss of them to you. Maybe you should be careful next time, dude.
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
This must be a bad feeling. At what time, did you acquire this BTC at what price ? It is still a big loss at current prices.

Unless OP is an attention seeker and there was no hack Wink
As they say in the bitcoin space, don't trust, verify.

If this story is real it's because OP was completely careless about his coins.
You can be careful, average or careless here and a careful person would have a hardware wallet or a multisig setup. Your average holder would have an offline device with at least one backup and an antivirus software. A careless person would have a desktop wallet with a password in a txt file, would hold the private key in a password manager and allow all his family to use the computer for movies, pirated software and all the other stuff they do.
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November 27, 2023, 04:31:32 PM
One final post, then I'm just going to look forward and leave this mess behind.  Some points.

1. I'm an idiot.  I accept that. I hope sharing this experience can help others avoid the same mistakes that I made.

2. I can't figure out the message signing with the segwit address.  Wish that worked with the Bitcoin Core GUI wallet. Tried Electrum, but had no luck.  Not something I need to waste time with at this point.  If there is a mod or a trusted member of the forum willing, I'd be fine with sending some sats to them from my wallet. Send me a private message.  As others have said, that still doesn't prove anything, so whatever.

3. I joined this forum about 10 years ago.  I don't visit very often these days.  Merit points or whatever mean nothing to me.  Give me negative merits, just does not matter.

4. I have reported this theft to my local police as well as filed a cyber incident report with my state and the FBI.  I don't expect anything from that outside of being a statistical data point.

5. I know exactly where this malware came from that got us.  Website, file name, time, etc.

6. I contacted one of those recover your Bitcoin bounty hunters, but it's a scam.  I figured as much, but wanted to hear what they were going to say. The BS they were spouting was kind of funny.
 
7. I still love Bitcoin, my wife and my life. While this really sucks, it's not the end of the world for us.

Peace and love, yours truly, soulcity   


So your address still holds some fund? Since you can send a few sat, correct? Well I don't think there are any stupid "hackers" out there to leave anything behind., and you don't need to sign with segwit, since your public key is known, you could import your private key as legacy and sign the message.  But I guess it's life right? Acting so cool like it was a few cents. Good actor.😉
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November 27, 2023, 04:21:37 PM
One final post, then I'm just going to look forward and leave this mess behind.  Some points.

1. I'm an idiot.  I accept that. I hope sharing this experience can help others avoid the same mistakes that I made.

2. I can't figure out the message signing with the segwit address.  Wish that worked with the Bitcoin Core GUI wallet. Tried Electrum, but had no luck.  Not something I need to waste time with at this point.  If there is a mod or a trusted member of the forum willing, I'd be fine with sending some sats to them from my wallet. Send me a private message.  As others have said, that still doesn't prove anything, so whatever.

3. I joined this forum about 10 years ago.  I don't visit very often these days.  Merit points or whatever mean nothing to me.  Give me negative merits, just does not matter.

4. I have reported this theft to my local police as well as filed a cyber incident report with my state and the FBI.  I don't expect anything from that outside of being a statistical data point.

5. I know exactly where this malware came from that got us.  Website, file name, time, etc.

6. I contacted one of those recover your Bitcoin bounty hunters, but it's a scam.  I figured as much, but wanted to hear what they were going to say. The BS they were spouting was kind of funny.
 
7. I still love Bitcoin, my wife and my life. While this really sucks, it's not the end of the world for us.

Peace and love, yours truly, soulcity   

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November 27, 2023, 09:59:06 AM

If we have 1k dollar BTC then we will think about buying a hardware wallet to give more security to that BTC.
There is nothing such as '1k dollar BTC', these are two different currencies that you have just sandwiched together, you should rather say you have 0.027 BTC or $1k worth of BTC.
But he didn't put his coin in a careless wallet, Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet is a full-node wallet and is considered to be one of the safest wallets.
BTC core is only a safe wallet when it is run in an airgapped device, just because it is a full-node wallet does not mean it is safe by default, if you run BTC core in an online machine and in an unsafe enviroment, your funds are prone to hacking.
Its ability to download and validate the entire Bitcoin blockchain makes it one of the most difficult wallets to attack.
This is not true. BTC core is a full node wallet and you can download the blockchain and verify everything locally, this protects your privacy and also protects you from connecting to malicious third party nodes, but it does not secure your funds from hackers or malware or from every form of online attack if you use it in an online machine and in an unsafe enviroment.
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 09:45:59 AM
It's sad to think even with 11 BTC holdings, OP didn't even think of buying a cold wallet to protect his investment. It's a huge amount of money, and shouldn't take it easy when it comes to security. I agree with you, this won't happen if he has a hardware wallet. His wife may not cause a hack if he at least think of the security of his holdings.

I think we shouldn't make assumptions in this case.  OP still has not shown real proof that he owned 11 bitcoins to begin with, even though he said he would provide evidence.  The only parts of his story that have been confirmed are a couple blockchain transactions, but honestly those could mean anything - for all we know, he just found some random transactions on the blockchain and claimed they were hacks.
I'm also skeptical about the OP's story. Put yourself in his shoes, if you had 11BTC, would you leave it on a computer with an internet connection and let everyone use it freely? I bet no one here would let that happen even to a newbie, let alone someone who has been involved and has long experience like the OP.

In case someone owns 11BTC, I think they would even store it on 2 to 3 hardware wallets instead of on one computer with an online connection. OP should provide more evidence instead of just providing the wallet address and nothing to prove that he actually owns the wallet.
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November 27, 2023, 09:26:12 AM
This must be a bad feeling. At what time, did you acquire this BTC at what price ? It is still a big loss at current prices.
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November 27, 2023, 09:14:50 AM
Yesterday I lost 11 BTC from my Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet.  The wallet wasn't open at the time.  I don't know how it happened. Lots of emotions right now.  

I am sorry for your loss, be it story or reality. But I want to ask you why you put 11 BTC in a careless wallet. 11BTC means huge amounts of money. Why don't you put a strong hardware wallet offline? People will learn from your loss but your loss will never be recovered. Your wife may not have done such a thing. You may have given your wallet seed phase somewhere.
OP made a costly mistake by putting such an amount of Bitcoin in such a wallet and you are right that he should have got a good hardware wallet. But he didn't put his coin in a careless wallet, Bitcoin Core 25.0 wallet is a full-node wallet and is considered to be one of the safest wallets. Its ability to download and validate the entire Bitcoin blockchain makes it one of the most difficult wallets to attack. It is also an open-source wallet which means that everyone have access to see, make comment, or propose a change to the code.This fact has made members doubt the story and want him to sign a message.

But splitting his coins into different wallets would have been ideal if he was using a software wallet. If I were him I would have shared my coin into a different trusted wallet or better still buy a hardware wallet. It is far cheaper than losing such an amount. However, some persons might be scared of ordering a hardware wallet because of the high rate of criminal activities. People are afraid of ordering fake wallets or compromised wallets. Even if they order from the right source, delivery services in some countries cannot be trusted. In a country where cybercrime is high some delivery service staff can change the wallet or compromise the hardware wallet to steal the coin. Using an air-gapped wallet could also be a sound option..
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November 27, 2023, 08:58:05 AM
My PC is running back up right now. I'll post the signed message after it finishes and I figure out how to do it. If you feel you need to report this post, by all means, do what you feel need to do
Steps:

download eletrum wallet (from its official site)
open your wallet
copy the address to sign
click on tools- sign/verify message
write the message
paste the address
click on sign
copy the signature and share here.
You can't sign a message without the private key, if it was that easy, a certain satoshiwannabe would have done it already instead of forging.
And signing a message is impossible without a working PC, when someone gets hacked, they won't simply back up their hard drive, instead they'd take out any private key and wipe the drive clean.
According to his last message, he has access to the seed or private key, he just doesn't know how to sign with Segwit.
therefore he can do it with electrum.
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