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legendary
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April 14, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
#30
Achieving an ROI with Bitcoin cloud mining is not impossible these days, but it is very rare.
If you do have the option of reselling the purchasing mining power, you will have a better chance at ROI [earlier].

A lot of it depends on the company, the hardware they use (self-produced or not) and how they can buy electricity (in bulk, self-sustained or otherwse).

Congratulations though, happy for you Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
April 14, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
#29
any chance you`d share some screen caps op?

or the return on your ROI that you mentioned, because thats a gamble. I never heard of the site as well, but hey if you got your ROI back then more power to you. I have a sense its a ponzi though but on a higher level.



there is a screen in the previous page but i'm still skeptical, because the amount he invested is too low, and with low amount the things are different, i mean i does not make sense to scam with such amount, they are waiting for big fish to do it seriously

otherwise if they are legit, they are very profitablel, perhaps i'll try a low amoun too to see if it work

I find it more then skeptical.  It's hard to believe they could sell a year for the price of the machine only.  They would have to have no electricity or any costs to make money.

Every cloudmine site that is at this level on low payment I would not go into business with.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
April 14, 2015, 03:25:52 AM
#28
any chance you`d share some screen caps op?

or the return on your ROI that you mentioned, because thats a gamble. I never heard of the site as well, but hey if you got your ROI back then more power to you. I have a sense its a ponzi though but on a higher level.



there is a screen in the previous page but i'm still skeptical, because the amount he invested is too low, and with low amount the things are different, i mean it does not make sense to scam with such amount, they are waiting for big fish to do it seriously

otherwise if they are legit, they are very profitable, perhaps i'll try a low amount too to see if it work
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1002
April 13, 2015, 11:33:47 PM
#27
any chance you`d share some screen caps op?

or the return on your ROI that you mentioned, because thats a gamble. I never heard of the site as well, but hey if you got your ROI back then more power to you. I have a sense its a ponzi though but on a higher level.

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
April 13, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
#26
Still even with that all being said.  Show a way they can sell 1T for a year for 1.4 BTC, and in that have fees and electricity included in cost.   I just don't see it, to good to be true.
If somebody is offering such prices at the moment it's most likely a scam. 5TH SP30s costed $2k, so the initial cost of 1TH is close to $400, which is already more than 1.4BTC. This was possible a couple months ago, when 1BTC was worth over $300 but not now.

That is my point.  OP's site he said he made ROI is https://www.bitcoincloudservices.com/product/bitcoin-cloud-mining-contract/ .  They are offering it at that price.  For almost the price of a S5 they are giving 1T for a entire year WITH electricity and fees in the initial price.

There is just no way this works out for a company.  I wonder if OP is with company since showed proof of ROI.
sr. member
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Infleum
April 13, 2015, 06:30:17 PM
#25
Still even with that all being said.  Show a way they can sell 1T for a year for 1.4 BTC, and in that have fees and electricity included in cost.   I just don't see it, to good to be true.
If somebody is offering such prices at the moment it's most likely a scam. 5TH SP30s costed $2k, so the initial cost of 1TH is close to $400, which is already more than 1.4BTC. This was possible a couple months ago, when 1BTC was worth over $300 but not now.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
April 13, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
#24
That's why they rarely just sell contracts. Those who aren't trying to scam you use the money you gave them to trade and invest, maybe even convert to fiat and lend it and of course mine for themselves.
It can be possible to offer legit cloud mining contracts but the deal just not that profitable. Both parties the buyers and the sellers will be balancing on the edge throughout the lifespan of the contract, unless Bitcoin enters another bubble in which case everybody wins.

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Just doing math on it.  Lets say for your 1T they run a S5 for 10 cents a kw.  (They would have cooling, employees, hosting, etc etc fees).
But they run the S5 for $1.39 a day.  Take that times 365 day's that they say are included in price.  They will spend over 500 dollars in a year not including the S5 for lets say 340.

When they are mining for themselves somebody is always in the facility anyway, so there are no actual employees, there can be 2 or 3 investors, who are also looking after their own gear by being in the building.
Cooling is the cheaper the bigger the facility - here's where the costs are being cut compared to your own small mine, same with power cost.



Still even with that all being said.  Show a way they can sell 1T for a year for 1.4 BTC, and in that have fees and electricity included in cost.   I just don't see it, to good to be true.
sr. member
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Infleum
April 13, 2015, 04:48:18 PM
#23
That's why they rarely just sell contracts. Those who aren't trying to scam you use the money you gave them to trade and invest, maybe even convert to fiat and lend it and of course mine for themselves.
It can be possible to offer legit cloud mining contracts but the deal just not that profitable. Both parties the buyers and the sellers will be balancing on the edge throughout the lifespan of the contract, unless Bitcoin enters another bubble in which case everybody wins.

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Just doing math on it.  Lets say for your 1T they run a S5 for 10 cents a kw.  (They would have cooling, employees, hosting, etc etc fees).
But they run the S5 for $1.39 a day.  Take that times 365 day's that they say are included in price.  They will spend over 500 dollars in a year not including the S5 for lets say 340.

When they are mining for themselves somebody is always in the facility anyway, so there are no actual employees, there can be 2 or 3 investors, who are also looking after their own gear by being in the building.
Cooling is the cheaper the bigger the facility - here's where the costs are being cut compared to your own small mine, same with power cost.

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
April 13, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
#22
The trick with scams/ponzi is if you get in early enough you can still make something, but eventually everyone loses.

I did the math a few day's ago it seems to be ponzi level priced.  Unless it's a typo that electricity and fees is included into initial price.



Here was math I came up with:

Just doing math on it.  Lets say for your 1T they run a S5 for 10 cents a kw.  (They would have cooling, employees, hosting, etc etc fees).

But they run the S5 for $1.39 a day.  Take that times 365 day's that they say are included in price.  They will spend over 500 dollars in a year not including the S5 for lets say 340.

So 840 dollars in cost they will give you that 1T for 1.4 BTC or 235 per BTC.   So you pay 329 dollars.  They would lose approx 500 dollars in a year to give you this service.... i just don't see it being real.



Again I could be wrong but most likely it seems like you would not be mining, just getting money back that you sent them initially.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 02:03:43 PM
#21
The trick with scams/ponzi is if you get in early enough you can still make something, but eventually everyone loses.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 01:49:05 PM
#20
I also have a friend who ROIed with BTCS which is strange, I have to say. I always thought these guys are scam and ponzi. Now, I do not know what to think anymore.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
#19
You could always consider doing an R-box (100 GH, 110W), or even a down clocked S3. The point is that you could, and should IMHO, start with something way smaller than $5000 of mining hardware. You won't make much money, but it would be quite reasonable to fit within your environment and budget, to see the realities of mining. You could also take a big chunk of your $5000 and just buy Bitcoins. It's not fun or sexy to just buy/hold, but at less $250/coin, it's about as safe as anything Bitcoin related gets.

In case no one has mentioned this already:

Don't put more into Bitcoin and mining hardware than you are prepared to lose!

i have searched on the site...
it could be nice if you could have the chance to sell, the acquired hashrate...
like cex-io...
but i think it is not possible
alh
legendary
Activity: 1846
Merit: 1052
April 12, 2015, 05:25:42 PM
#18
You could always consider doing an R-box (100 GH, 110W), or even a down clocked S3. The point is that you could, and should IMHO, start with something way smaller than $5000 of mining hardware. You won't make much money, but it would be quite reasonable to fit within your environment and budget, to see the realities of mining. You could also take a big chunk of your $5000 and just buy Bitcoins. It's not fun or sexy to just buy/hold, but at less $250/coin, it's about as safe as anything Bitcoin related gets.

In case no one has mentioned this already:

Don't put more into Bitcoin and mining hardware than you are prepared to lose!
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
April 12, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
#17
Wasn't the whole point to reach ROI when the price of btc goes up? As long as you aren't losing money you should at some point in the future reach an ROI regardless of your investment or current rate of profits.

the problem is that you need 5 months time to roi, it's a very long time for me, if those site run away, or anything like that, it would be a problem, there is always a risk involved
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
April 12, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
#16
Wasn't the whole point to reach ROI when the price of btc goes up? As long as you aren't losing money you should at some point in the future reach an ROI regardless of your investment or current rate of profits.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
April 12, 2015, 02:46:27 PM
#15
well they seems legit, but can you resell your contract at some point or you are stuck with it until it end?

because i might be interested with that price per giga, and no maintenance cost too

If it's real it's one heck of a deal.   No electricity, or fees at that price would be pretty great.   I just don't see at this price the company being able to provide it.
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
April 12, 2015, 01:43:56 PM
#14
well they seems legit, but can you resell your contract at some point or you are stuck with it until it end?

because i might be interested with that price per giga, and no maintenance cost too

its just buy and hold, no selling :/
just try it out with a lower amount than a giga. (for example 100gh/s)
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
April 12, 2015, 12:54:35 PM
#13
well they seems legit, but can you resell your contract at some point or you are stuck with it until it end?

because i might be interested with that price per giga, and no maintenance cost too
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
April 12, 2015, 12:39:48 PM
#12
Did you get ROI with an Cloud mining service? Or some ASIC?

Maybe be more specific.

I got ROI from various old hardwares S3 and KNC Jupiters, etc.

Got my ROI on Cloud Mining.
Because we have too much power fees in my country for an own rig.

I think cloud mining goes in different section but not 100 percent sure.

And you are lucky on cloud ROI most turn into ponzi.  I personally would not touch that site I've never heard of it.  Do you have proof of ROI?

1.4 BTC for 1T and a year of it running sounds way to good to be true. - https://www.bitcoincloudservices.com/product/bitcoin-cloud-mining-contract/

sr. member
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April 12, 2015, 09:24:15 AM
#11
Hi there.

I reached my Bitcoin Mining ROI some days ago, which is pretty fantastic.
So these guys who are saying it isn't a profitable business, they're mostly wrong.
Always depends on power fees, mining rig costs, etc.

I personally mine on BitcoinCloudServices, but i don't know if they are really scam.
I just made my ROI with BitcoinCloudServices, which is a good sign.

Someone else already reached the ROI? It just interests me..

# if this is the wrong section for this, please move.

Greets,
jstyler.

ROI on cloud service is all about luck, there are a bunch of ponzi cloud mining site and you are lucky you are not into one of them.
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