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Topic: Got off the phone with the Guy from the S.E.C - page 7. (Read 28522 times)

legendary
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September 24, 2012, 09:36:45 PM
#85
Numbers above call him yourself lol Email whatever get off my nuts, if you want copies from me gweedo. Use the U.S. Freedom of information act, they will be there in about a week.

Nefario Ill email you everything I can recall if you would like.



I want someone from NY to go to the S.E.C office and have the person video tape the convo. Cause I am not buying this, it smells of weak facts and just good old FUD. Plus your a clown anyway so I take what you say with a grain of salt. I will be calling myself, with my lawyer.

Call then come back and tell us Smiley please, then you can say sorry for being your normal turd self and doubting me.

Read the whole post as well other people have called, and people have been mailing me that called as well.

I will never say sorry, cause your still a clown, and I don't care what other people say, half these people aren't even in the States so I don't care about them.

Plus I don't believe the S.E.C can do anything about this since they don't deal with any other currency, plus there are ponzi schemes that worth 100's of millions that they are investigating, I doubt a little one like this is really going to show up on their radar. Anyway to get pirate in jail, you need to attack using the IRS.
I stopped reading here and just concluded that you're horribly, horribly wrong.

show me a case that they dealt with ponzi schemes in other currencies? They only deal with the USD. Read about it Wink
vip
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September 24, 2012, 10:16:51 PM
#85
Well looking quickly, the SEC does investigate and prosecute ponzi schemes. I thought that would be the FBI's department (fraud).

The SEC is responsible for civil litigation of securities fraud.

The following organizations are responsible for criminal enforcement of fraud :

Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Postal Inspection Services
Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division
United States Secret Service

You forgot the US Attorney's Office.  They've been extremely prominent in past ponzi prosecutions.

Which just so happens to be his former employer.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
#84
Well looking quickly, the SEC does investigate and prosecute ponzi schemes. I thought that would be the FBI's department (fraud).

The SEC is responsible for civil litigation of securities fraud.

The following organizations are responsible for criminal enforcement of fraud :

Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Postal Inspection Services
Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division
United States Secret Service

You forgot the US Attorney's Office.  They've been extremely prominent in past ponzi prosecutions.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 09:30:23 PM
#83
Numbers above call him yourself lol Email whatever get off my nuts, if you want copies from me gweedo. Use the U.S. Freedom of information act, they will be there in about a week.

Nefario Ill email you everything I can recall if you would like.



I want someone from NY to go to the S.E.C office and have the person video tape the convo. Cause I am not buying this, it smells of weak facts and just good old FUD. Plus your a clown anyway so I take what you say with a grain of salt. I will be calling myself, with my lawyer.

Call then come back and tell us Smiley please, then you can say sorry for being your normal turd self and doubting me.

Read the whole post as well other people have called, and people have been mailing me that called as well.

I will never say sorry, cause your still a clown, and I don't care what other people say, half these people aren't even in the States so I don't care about them.

Plus I don't believe the S.E.C can do anything about this since they don't deal with any other currency, plus there are ponzi schemes that worth 100's of millions that they are investigating, I doubt a little one like this is really going to show up on their radar. Anyway to get pirate in jail, you need to attack using the IRS.
sr. member
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September 24, 2012, 09:38:36 PM
#83
I gotta wonder, did Pirate shut down before or after he learned the SEC was investigating him? He's obviously known for some time now.


I would assume he got a visit and they sat down and had a long conversation.  That is how it usually works.

I'd imagine this has already happened for two reasons:

1) Pirate hasn't posted for a long time.
2) This guy doesn't seem to care much for the SEC's typical policy of maintaining confidentiality of an investigation and seems to be talking to random victims of the scheme. It suggests the case is in a high state of development.

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-112.htm

Bitcoin would be small stuff for Philip after his previous case.
Small stuff monetarily to be sure. However, as far as sending a message and making good publicity it would be larger than his previous case, which was a mostly local to New York Long Island ponzi.
hero member
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The North Remembers
September 24, 2012, 09:37:40 PM
#82
It's the SEC. Pirate would get a fine smaller than the amount he stole.
sr. member
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September 24, 2012, 09:35:10 PM
#81
Numbers above call him yourself lol Email whatever get off my nuts, if you want copies from me gweedo. Use the U.S. Freedom of information act, they will be there in about a week.

Nefario Ill email you everything I can recall if you would like.



I want someone from NY to go to the S.E.C office and have the person video tape the convo. Cause I am not buying this, it smells of weak facts and just good old FUD. Plus your a clown anyway so I take what you say with a grain of salt. I will be calling myself, with my lawyer.

Call then come back and tell us Smiley please, then you can say sorry for being your normal turd self and doubting me.

Read the whole post as well other people have called, and people have been mailing me that called as well.

I will never say sorry, cause your still a clown, and I don't care what other people say, half these people aren't even in the States so I don't care about them.

Plus I don't believe the S.E.C can do anything about this since they don't deal with any other currency, plus there are ponzi schemes that worth 100's of millions that they are investigating, I doubt a little one like this is really going to show up on their radar. Anyway to get pirate in jail, you need to attack using the IRS.
I stopped reading here and just concluded that you're horribly, horribly wrong.
hero member
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September 24, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
#80
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-112.htm

Bitcoin would be small stuff for Philip after his previous case.

The guy might have a genuine interest in bitcoin...besides him investigating pirate as part of his job.
hero member
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September 24, 2012, 09:25:17 PM
#79
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-112.htm

Bitcoin would be small stuff for Philip after his previous case.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 09:17:04 PM
#78
Numbers above call him yourself lol Email whatever get off my nuts, if you want copies from me gweedo. Use the U.S. Freedom of information act, they will be there in about a week.

Nefario Ill email you everything I can recall if you would like.



I want someone from NY to go to the S.E.C office and have the person video tape the convo. Cause I am not buying this, it smells of weak facts and just good old FUD. Plus your a clown anyway so I take what you say with a grain of salt. I will be calling myself, with my lawyer.
hero member
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The North Remembers
September 24, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
#78
OP cannot even right a few paragraphs of text in correct English and with internal consistency. Not much of a source.

However, if Pirate is going to jail that is very bad news indeed Sad

Yeah, for Pirate. That scam was hilarious to watch unfold though. Thanks for the free entertainment suckers.
legendary
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September 24, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
#77
Well looking quickly, the SEC does investigate and prosecute ponzi schemes. I thought that would be the FBI's department (fraud).

But are we sure they can even investigate a ponzi scheme if the person was paying out and collecting in another currency that is why I am thinking IRS they see he has lot of income, they start from that angle to build a case.
sr. member
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September 24, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
#77
Numbers above call him yourself lol Email whatever get off my nuts, if you want copies from me gweedo. Use the U.S. Freedom of information act, they will be there in about a week.

Nefario Ill email you everything I can recall if you would like.



I want someone from NY to go to the S.E.C office and have the person video tape the convo. Cause I am not buying this, it smells of weak facts and just good old FUD. Plus your a clown anyway so I take what you say with a grain of salt. I will be calling myself, with my lawyer.

Call then come back and tell us Smiley please, then you can say sorry for being your normal turd self and doubting me.

Read the whole post as well other people have called, and people have been mailing me that called as well.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
September 24, 2012, 09:11:30 PM
#76
I hope this doesn't bring down GLBSE...

It will be fine, for several reasons, to a large extent a lot of whats traded on GLBSE would fall under the new croudsourcing legislation that's come out.

That takes care of Americans who've used GLBSE to raise BTC for projects. I would say the only worry would be to people who've run scam assets.

GLBSE itself is based in the UK, and comes under FSA regulation which is something we're working on.

Good, because I have a listing I'm considering  Cheesy
sr. member
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September 24, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
#75
Well looking quickly, the SEC does investigate and prosecute ponzi schemes. I thought that would be the FBI's department (fraud).

The SEC is responsible for civil litigation of securities fraud.

The following organizations are responsible for criminal enforcement of fraud :

Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Postal Inspection Services
Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division
United States Secret Service
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
September 24, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
#74
Numbers above call him yourself lol Email whatever get off my nuts, if you want copies from me gweedo. Use the U.S. Freedom of information act, they will be there in about a week.

Nefario Ill email you everything I can recall if you would like.

hero member
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September 24, 2012, 09:03:26 PM
#73
Well looking quickly, the SEC does investigate and prosecute ponzi schemes. I thought that would be the FBI's department (fraud).
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 09:00:40 PM
#72
I enjoy GLBSE, I hope it don't either. From the feel of what I got from him is, he was after pirate, and seeing if the PPT operators had any fault in it. Wanted to know what is going on with BFL. Then was looking or money laundering areas, disguised on the exchange. It seems lots of people have talked to this guy I was just the first lol. Thanks for filling my inbox.....

Where is the papers you filed? You do know the S.E.C has nothing to do with this, and you would better off contacting the IRS before S.E.C. Another person trying to create FUD, for benefit. Plus I am surprised the S.E.C would even discuss this since it has nothing to do with gold, or USD. I feel your lying I want proof you even made the call, and someone talked to you. Why didn't you record it? Any smart person would have hit record and let the person know.

Took them 20yrs to make a case against madoff and pirate is already getting the look at. If you believe any of this your a fool.
sr. member
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September 24, 2012, 08:54:26 PM
#71
I enjoy GLBSE, I hope it don't either. From the feel of what I got from him is, he was after pirate, and seeing if the PPT operators had any fault in it. Wanted to know what is going on with BFL. Then was looking or money laundering areas, disguised on the exchange. It seems lots of people have talked to this guy I was just the first lol. Thanks for filling my inbox.....
hero member
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GLBSE Support [email protected]
September 24, 2012, 08:39:57 PM
#70
I hope this doesn't bring down GLBSE...

It will be fine, for several reasons, to a large extent a lot of whats traded on GLBSE would fall under the new croudsourcing legislation that's come out.

That takes care of Americans who've used GLBSE to raise BTC for projects. I would say the only worry would be to people who've run scam assets.

GLBSE itself is based in the UK, and comes under FSA regulation which is something we're working on.
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