Got Scammed by ripplecanavari of Turkish Local forum.

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Quote from: ripplecanavari on July 10, 2019, 04:31:48 AM

I have not been active in the forum for about 1 week.

First of all, this person sent me an infc token(0 value scam shit) not inf token.

This person asked me for money, saying that he would send me an inf token and I accepted.

Price came quite affordable.But he asked me to download an application.So I downloaded the app.

He sent me 1000 infc credits.And he claimed that they had the same value as inf.

I did some research on the forum and the telegram, and I found that the token was scam, worthless.

I told this person. He did not accept. I deleted the worthless scam application and blocked the person.

And he threatened to kill me with voodoo magic.LOL

Then I saw this title and downloaded this scam worthless application again. Screenshots to share.

downloaded again https://imgur.com/yt5k99F

although I never touched the tokens that this person sent but balance 0 looks https://imgur.com/68al6Eb

This is proof I didn't touch the tokens he sent.(because this app and stupid project pure scam) https://imgur.com/7ObZyOq

If you want additional screenshots on the subject, Just say it.I just downloaded it this is a useless cheat app for this topic.

I didn't touch any tokens in it, but the balance looks 0. Also, I can't use the balance in it because it has no value.

Best regards.

You are professional scammer and bad trader that shouldn't be entertain at all. If the coins are scam coins why didn't you resend it back and you decided to delete it and blocked me? Whiles I was waiting for you to fulfill your part.
I can delete my app and download it 100 times but the moment I put in the email and password I registered with, all balance and every transactions will resurface. Any interested person can contact the team about this. This scammer has downloaded the app and log on with different email and put up a screenshots of 0 balance to deceive us.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 10, 2019, 06:49:04 PM

This pretty much comes down to a double scam honestly. The OP tried sending 1 kind of token and pass it off as another, while the receiver just took the token and disappeared. (Corrected by Darkstar_)

They both deserve a tag IMO and will receive 1 from me. Even if the situation is resolved I do not believe the tag on the OP should be removed as he is trying to deceive users when trading. Dishonest trading should be tagged period. (OP tag removed)

On a side note, If users would be smart and use escrow, we wouldn't be reading this thread. Although it cannot be enforced, escrow should be a must. Why risk 100s of dollars possibly when you can pay a .5%-3% fee and trade safely?

I disagree that I tried to deceive user when trading. I made it clear to him, I am holding the tokens for future when conversion takes place before I sell. I noticed he quickly joined the telegram group, did his research and find potentials of the coins before pursuing with his tricks. If I had a diabolic motive, I wouldn't have sent my token first.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 10, 2019, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 10, 2019, 06:49:04 PM

This pretty much comes down to a double scam honestly. The OP tried sending 1 kind of token and pass it off as another, while the receiver just took the token and disappeared.

They are practically the same thing though. The official website states that they can be converted to each other via the app and OP seemed to make it clear that ripplecanavari had to download the Infinitus app to store the tokens/credits. Did he ever mention that he was giving the ERC20 version?

Quote from: oseikuf44 on July 01, 2019, 06:19:10 AM

He agreed to offer me the loan but I need some small collateral as a symbolism if 10$ or 20$, but I responded negative. I just told him I have Infinitus tokens listed on Coinmarketcap in my mobile app ready to be integrated to ERC 20 token so I will sell them, a Total of 1500 INF worth 900 USD.

You're correct, saved him there I suppose.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 10, 2019, 06:49:04 PM

This pretty much comes down to a double scam honestly. The OP tried sending 1 kind of token and pass it off as another, while the receiver just took the token and disappeared.

They are practically the same thing though. The official website states that they can be converted to each other via the app and OP seemed to make it clear that ripplecanavari had to download the Infinitus app to store the tokens/credits. Did he ever mention that he was giving the ERC20 version?

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This pretty much comes down to a double scam honestly. The OP tried sending 1 kind of token and pass it off as another, while the receiver just took the token and disappeared. (Corrected by Darkstar_)

They both deserve a tag IMO and will receive 1 from me. Even if the situation is resolved I do not believe the tag on the OP should be removed as he is trying to deceive users when trading. Dishonest trading should be tagged period. (OP tag removed)

On a side note, If users would be smart and use escrow, we wouldn't be reading this thread. Although it cannot be enforced, escrow should be a must. Why risk 100s of dollars possibly when you can pay a .5%-3% fee and trade safely?

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Report the death threat and he will be banned. According to the Infinitus website, conversion between the ERC token and the INF Credits is possible (or coming soon). From the FAQ:

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You may convert INF Credits into INF Tokens (tradable digital asset). INF Tokens are traded on several major exchanges. INF Credits can be converted into INF Tokens conveniently in the INF mobile app.1 INF Credit = 1 INF Token.

While they may be currently 'worthless' (I'm unable to confirm if conversion is possible yet), you do owe him 1000 INFC that may be worth $253.6 USD based off of the current token exchange rate. It is your fault that you deleted the app without making proper backups and oseikuf44 is not responsible for your poorly thought out actions. You do owe him 1000 INFC, USD/BTC value irregardless. If the token really is worthless and will remain worthless, it shouldn't be that hard to pay some bagholder a small amount of USD for their worthless tokens.

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I have not been active in the forum for about 1 week.

First of all, this person sent me an infc token(0 value scam shit) not inf token.

This person asked me for money, saying that he would send me an inf token and I accepted.

Price came quite affordable.But he asked me to download an application.So I downloaded the app.

He sent me 1000 infc credits.And he claimed that they had the same value as inf.

I did some research on the forum and the telegram, and I found that the token was scam, worthless.

I told this person. He did not accept. I deleted the worthless scam application and blocked the person.

And he threatened to kill me with voodoo magic.LOL

Then I saw this title and downloaded this scam worthless application again. Screenshots to share.

downloaded again https://imgur.com/yt5k99F

although I never touched the tokens that this person sent but balance 0 looks https://imgur.com/68al6Eb

This is proof I didn't touch the tokens he sent.(because this app and stupid project pure scam) https://imgur.com/7ObZyOq

If you want additional screenshots on the subject, Just say it.I just downloaded it this is a useless cheat app for this topic.

I didn't touch any tokens in it, but the balance looks 0. Also, I can't use the balance in it because it has no value.

Best regards.

oseikuf44

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 07, 2019, 04:25:53 PM

Quote from: ekiller on July 07, 2019, 05:08:34 AM

Well @oseikuf44 Please can you provide us TXID link on "Official INF explorer" ? Not photo, paste it as text please.

Please do. I tried OCR for the first transaction in the screenshot but the result doesn't show up on an ETH explorer.

Code:

143302120190629274dac453094a54717968c2ef71a822cb1

INFC is an off-chain, meaning it will encourage people to transfer freely without having to pay for gas or wait for the token to arrive when the network is congested and the transfer will be almost instantenously. The mobile App with Infinity's credit is NOT ERC token, according to the team the infinity's credit will be convertible to Infinitus Tokens( ERC token) after integration, which we are waiting for it to be implemented. At conversion, Infinitus credit is 1:1 ratio with Infinitus token (ERC).

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Quote from: ekiller on July 07, 2019, 05:08:34 AM

Well @oseikuf44 Please can you provide us TXID link on "Official INF explorer" ? Not photo, paste it as text please.

Please do. I tried OCR for the first transaction in the screenshot but the result doesn't show up on an ETH explorer.

Code:

143302120190629274dac453094a54717968c2ef71a822cb1

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@oseikuf44

Can you explain? 1000 INF CREDIT how could it be worth 700 USD ?

is it token you send to ripplecanavari ? https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/infinitus-token/

if so

Date you send token Open price USD High Low Close
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Jun 30, 2019 0,408895 0,420110 0,379833 0,380675

Above price table taken from from https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/infinitus-token/historical-data/

Besides you tell about send (INF - INFINITUS) token.
But your screen shot https://imgur.com/a/cpav3oV about (INFC).

INF is ERC20 token .

Official website : https://inftech.io/
Official explorer : https://etherscan.io/token/0x00e150d741eda1d49d341189cae4c08a73a49c95

Q : Can I transfer my INF Token to any Ethereum ERC20 Wallet?

A : Yes. INF Tokens are ERC20. They can be stored in any Ethereum ERC20 compatible wallet.

Well @oseikuf44 Please can you provide us TXID link on "Official INF explorer" ? Not photo, paste it as text please.

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Your coins are shit coins and worthless.

With that said, they are still your shit coins and what this stupid fellow did is scam no doubt. So I have supported the flag. I don't think you will get your coins back, but at least this will prevent him from scamming someone else like you again.

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Quote from: oseikuf44 on July 06, 2019, 05:19:09 PM

I have added a flag on his profile. Thank for the support sir. I believe this community should be made of trusted people that outsiders can feel save doing business with members here.

Make a higher tier flag, either "This user violated a casual or implied agreement with me, resulting in damages." or "This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.".

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Quote from: AlyattesLydia on July 06, 2019, 03:24:54 AM

We expect both sides to provide more evidence.

I have provided my evidence in the first post. LINK OF PAYMENT. If you check the transactions, I sent him 147 INF first and he told me is a scam coins so he want to send it back. He couldn't resend all the 147 due to zero balance policy , so I suggested he resend 137 INF and leave 10 as balance. All can be seen from the image. Then I resend 1000 INF when we agreed on a deal.

Check the last top 3 transactions and verify my claim.
https://imgur.com/a/cpav3oV

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 06, 2019, 10:28:40 AM

Quote from: ekiller on July 04, 2019, 08:03:43 PM

Add flag,

And @oseikuf44 please provide all TXID as text .

Yeah, OP add a type 3 flag on his profile. I will support it.

I have added a flag on his profile. Thank for the support sir. I believe this community should be made of trusted people that outsiders can feel save doing business with members here.

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Quote from: Vispilio on July 04, 2019, 10:28:32 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 04, 2019, 07:22:36 AM

Since it's a PM, my thinking was that if a DT can prove it then we can certainly say that the incident happened.

ripplecanavari himself is already admitting he entered into the said dialogue with oseikuf44 here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51699177

he is essentially saying in Turkish that the tokens sent to him through the phone app turned out to be worthless, so he sent the tokens back immediately as well as deleting the mobile app and cutting all communication, and oseikuf44 later even threatened him with voodoo magic Roll Eyes

! However, ripple hasn't as of yet provided any evidence to support his defense.

ripplecanavari should show up here and submit the link of the transaction where he at least sent the tokens back; otherwise the neg trust rating seems fair in this case in light of the produced evidence so far...

It is now established fact that I had interactions with him based on his response in the TURKISH LOCAL . For more evidence that he said he resend back the tokens of 1000 INF and deleted the app, I want to challenge him to RE-DOWNLOAD THE APP. Before you can access the app, one need to register with an E-mail and password, which he did before I sent him the tokens. So if he has deleted the app, he can redownload the app, put in his email and password credentials, and go to transaction status. He can provide evidence of his TRANSACTIONS as screenshot here for anyone to verify if he truly resend the 1000 INF to anyone. He never did. I am done with all the steps I promised him and won't pursue him further. He should live in his own shadow of fear.

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Quote from: ekiller on July 04, 2019, 08:03:43 PM

Add flag,

And @oseikuf44 please provide all TXID as text .

Yeah, OP add a type 3 flag on his profile. I will support it.

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We expect both sides to provide more evidence.

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Add flag,

And @oseikuf44 please provide all TXID as text .

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 04, 2019, 07:22:36 AM

Since it's a PM, my thinking was that if a DT can prove it then we can certainly say that the incident happened.

ripplecanavari himself is already admitting he entered into the said dialogue with oseikuf44 here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51699177

he is essentially saying in Turkish that the tokens sent to him through the phone app turned out to be worthless, so he sent the tokens back immediately as well as deleting the mobile app and cutting all communication, and oseikuf44 later even threatened him with voodoo magic Roll Eyes

! However, ripple hasn't as of yet provided any evidence to support his defense.

ripplecanavari should show up here and submit the link of the transaction where he at least sent the tokens back; otherwise the neg trust rating seems fair in this case in light of the produced evidence so far...

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