Got scammed on Trading for Cash ( 74.19 BTC ) - page 3.

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Quote from: Casimir1904 on July 10, 2015, 05:21:48 PM

Quote from: MarkMJ on July 09, 2015, 01:13:00 PM

Can you describe the scammar?
Can you put the video with scammar?
Waiting for reply.

I don't have the Video, i described as good as possible to police but they have also the video, for decribing on internet it would not help really much..
Dutch looking around 20y old about 180cm black short hair, long face.
Would probaly match to many persons so really not help on the Internet.

Did you check inside his phone or laptop before reporting to police?
There might be some personal data inside his devices, is his devices even protected with password?
74 btc is a lot man Roll Eyes

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Quote from: MarkMJ on July 09, 2015, 01:13:00 PM

Can you describe the scammar?
Can you put the video with scammar?
Waiting for reply.

I don't have the Video, i described as good as possible to police but they have also the video, for decribing on internet it would not help really much..
Dutch looking around 20y old about 180cm black short hair, long face.
Would probaly match to many persons so really not help on the Internet.

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Next time, never let anyone walk away once you have deposited a bitcoin let alone 74 of them.
I have had somebody over here in the UK meet up with me for 10 BTC in Burger King, they wanted me to deposit right away, then say they need to go to a ATM because they do not have enough cash at the current exchange rate.
I declined and specified I will not hand over the bitcoins until the cash is on the table in front of me. Of course, the deal never went through because they were going to run.

All professional looking with a laptop and such, were willing to dump the laptop and bag for 10BTC of course, as the rate of trade at that current time was 900 a bitcoin.
Most likely the laptop only had a temp wallet on it, nothing personal.

I hope the guy you dealt with is caught, maybe something personal was left on the laptop.

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Send a message to LBC owner https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kangasbros-8516 maybe he could help you.

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Can you describe the scammar?
Can you put the video with scammar?
Waiting for reply.

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Quote from: Holzbein on July 09, 2015, 06:46:34 AM

Quote from: Casimir1904 on July 09, 2015, 06:16:04 AM

He was dutch looking, and yes afterwards I could do 1000 other things to avoid this...
Even if his fingerprints are not known, he should be good seen on the cameras, so earlier or later they'll get them for sure.

But how you gonna prove the police that you have send him bitcoins? he can just deny that and say he not even know what thats it

And then he say that he just leaved his stuff their without a reason and even don't ask it back?
And then he say he don't know anything about the bitcoins send at exactly that time and moved few seconds after he leaved the building?
Oh and i've some emails where we talked about the trade and where he wrote that he is already at the Mc Donalds.

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Quote from: Casimir1904 on July 09, 2015, 06:16:04 AM

He was dutch looking, and yes afterwards I could do 1000 other things to avoid this...
Even if his fingerprints are not known, he should be good seen on the cameras, so earlier or later they'll get them for sure.

But how you gonna prove the police that you have send him bitcoins? he can just deny that and say he not even know what thats it

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He was dutch looking, and yes afterwards I could do 1000 other things to avoid this...
Even if his fingerprints are not known, he should be good seen on the cameras, so earlier or later they'll get them for sure.

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Quote from: leen93 on July 08, 2015, 04:12:02 PM

Quote from: thebigtalk on July 06, 2015, 08:21:22 PM

Quote from: Casimir1904 on July 06, 2015, 08:14:05 PM

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

He got carried away with the amount. He'll always feel the guilt when spending each and every coin he stole from you and realizing that he did a very dumb move. He got caught with the CCTVs, fingerprints all over his stuff, gadgets that could lead to his original information and such. I'm sure he's getting ready to move out the place. Better do something real quick.

This guy planned to do this. He knows his fingerprints are not known, his gadgets will not lead anywhere...

Even if that was the case his fingerprints are now known.

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Quote from: thebigtalk on July 06, 2015, 08:21:22 PM

Quote from: Casimir1904 on July 06, 2015, 08:14:05 PM

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

He got carried away with the amount. He'll always feel the guilt when spending each and every coin he stole from you and realizing that he did a very dumb move. He got caught with the CCTVs, fingerprints all over his stuff, gadgets that could lead to his original information and such. I'm sure he's getting ready to move out the place. Better do something real quick.

This guy planned to do this. He knows his fingerprints are not known, his gadgets will not lead anywhere...

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This really is dreadful, BTC seems to attract scammers by the dozen

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Quote from: MarkMJ on July 07, 2015, 11:46:47 PM

So what happened to the objects it has abandomat?
The laptop is yours now but still a big scam
Again sorry for youry lost.

Police sized his stuff.
What will happen next I don't know.
I think they analyze the cctv and search for fingerprints on his items, and then hope he is already known.
I think their interest could also become bigger as the first address where he or they moved the coins had total received: 2,248.47358298 BTC
Police didn't know much about Bitcoins so it could take some times and could give some more questions, I think they will contact me next days/weeks.
I think they will catch him or them earlier or later, I think its also possible that it was more then one person, maybe someone loaded already the wallet on anohter device and waited till he leaved the building to send the bitcoins away.
If he or them really scammed already for more then 2000 BTC they'll don't stop now.
Money will be gone anyway.

Maybe some others will read this here who got also scammed on localbitcoin trades on the same way?

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Quote from: MarkMJ on July 07, 2015, 11:46:47 PM

So what happened to the objects it has abandomat?
The laptop is yours now but still a big scam
Again sorry for youry lost.

I doubt he can keep the laptop maybe the police will keep it as evidence for the investigation

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So what happened to the objects it has abandomat?
The laptop is yours now but still a big scam
Again sorry for youry lost.

jc01480

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Nope..

Wasn't this jackass was it:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--732773

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Quote from: meghan98321 on July 07, 2015, 08:07:03 PM

This is why you do a couple of small transactions till complete

Yep. I should have said that too earlier. Do many small transactions when it is for so many btc. You can do it 10 btc at a time and it costs you nothing.

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This is why you do a couple of small transactions till complete

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If he was an user of localbitcoins recently, try asking localbitcoins support for his details, was he a new trader or experienced trader?
they have details of user for 90 days on their system i think, they might be able to dig out some details like any bank address he used for prior trades
or any id document he shared in chats, as well as his ip etc, be very alert there are many scammers out there.

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Ok now he used some kind of mixing, i guess shared coin.
If i'm correct his final address = https://blockchain.info/address/12DeDSoYpXkvdexd9MWL23V6327sKEuzDn

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