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UpDown.BT

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Quote from: medUSA on September 11, 2014, 07:01:11 AM

I was not in the Updown campaign, but I was keeping a close eye on the developments at the time. I remembered Updown went totally silent for at least a couple of weeks, did not confirm members or answer any questions. The campaign was not managed well (or not at all), hence resulted in a lot of disputes. Some even re-design signatures to adverstise Updown owing members money.

I believe these negative comments should stick with Updown, at least for a while longer, to remind people of what happened. Paying people back after a long delay is not a trustworthy act.

Everybody can go silent for a couple of weeks, unfortunately. Everybody got paid and disputes was been resolved and that's very important.

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--Signature Designs-- http://bit.ly/1Pjbx77

I was not in the Updown campaign, but I was keeping a close eye on the developments at the time. I remembered Updown went totally silent for at least a couple of weeks, did not confirm members or answer any questions. The campaign was not managed well (or not at all), hence resulted in a lot of disputes. Some even re-design signatures to adverstise Updown owing members money.

I believe these negative comments should stick with Updown, at least for a while longer, to remind people of what happened. Paying people back after a long delay is not a trustworthy act.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: haploid23 on September 11, 2014, 04:43:58 AM

The first problem started when you advertise one rate, and pay lower. You can clearly see in the post titles what rates you were advertising. You also completely missed payments early in the campaign, which either was never fixed or ignored for a very long time. This personally affected me, but I didn't care about the amount enough to bitch about it. Others seemed pretty frustrated though. More problems stacked on, so I eventually just left:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7084146

Glad I left early on and avoided the shitstorm towards the middle and end.

There are around 50 persons in the campaign, and sometimes our staff member missed that someone changed status during the campaign, but in all of this cases difference was been sent. The last member who claimed this difference was rosinlpl — and issue was solved. So if I owe you smth, just write me in PM, and I will cover this difference.

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The first problem started when you advertise one rate, and pay lower. You can clearly see in the post titles what rates you were advertising. You also completely missed payments early in the campaign, which either was never fixed or ignored for a very long time. This personally affected me, but I didn't care about the amount enough to bitch about it. Others seemed pretty frustrated though. More problems stacked on, so I eventually just left:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7084146

Glad I left early on and avoided the shitstorm towards the middle and end.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: devthedev on September 09, 2014, 05:01:41 PM

Simply put, I don't trust you.

There were multiple people who hadn't been paid for the signature campaign for one. Also, most of your dealings here have been shady, hence the feedback.

Posts like this reaffirm the decision in my mind.

Quote from: UpDown.BT on August 26, 2014, 03:47:11 PM

Tiny bullshitters arguing. Real guys do things. We're offering best and most transparent conditions for the guys who have traffic offering the only anonymous affiliate campaign where you can earn 50% of profits and receive daily payouts. You can always watch unique bet wallets that will be generated exclusively for you to check that we're clear.

Another instance, not too long ago with Updown confirming Updown.bz is an alt account.

Quote from: updownbot.bz on September 09, 2014, 05:04:27 PM

Quote from: RCHumphrey on September 09, 2014, 01:35:34 PM

In that case do you know why UpDown.BT posted in your thread as if the OP. I regret not screenshotting now but I can guarantee he did and subsequently deleted his post.

I would like that to be clarified thanks.

it seems this guy is not that nice Shocked

?

To be honest with you — most of the arguing people (actually 2, and one complaining under different names because his original account is banned) is a greedy spammers, they dropped signature a week after my last answer in the thread, some of them was banned also, and they are now post in every of our topics, it's not a big deal for us to pay them, but it's better to have some balls. Many people received good payouts during the campaign, but nobody leaves good feedback in this cases.

Regarding .bz — no, we're not affiliated. They're copycats, so it's nice to be popular enough to be copied, but I just promoting our affiliate campaign to them, they have not so much instruments, so we can share some blocks with them for 50% of revenue from this blocks.

UpDown.BT

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> Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ?

I can't be sure there, but anyway point is that users had no signature few days before end of campaign.

(BTW we're always was very easy in terms of payments, just because sometimes it was easier to pay than to check thousands of messages, so nobody was claimed as a spammers, until they was banned).

> If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ?

I wrote that anyone who kept signature will receive payment few days before payout. So everyone who have no signature will not receive payouts obviously.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 09, 2014, 06:47:01 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 09, 2014, 02:58:17 PM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 05, 2014, 12:41:06 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:49:10 AM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

U have purposefully dodged my questions. I have made them colorful so that u dont miss them this time. I dont speak Klingon and it is pure English. Moreover it seems like u have appeared in a new avatar updownbot.bz (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-updownbotbz-signature-campaign-thread-closed-774226) to dodge your -ve.

Nope, we're not affiliated at all, they're just copying us. It's a sign of success.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on September 09, 2014, 05:52:05 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 09, 2014, 02:58:17 PM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 05, 2014, 12:41:06 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:49:10 AM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

You should have paid everyone who fulfilled the original deal. If they kept their signature for the month but then removed the signature, you should still pay it for that month.

Yes, I paid everyone who fulfilled the original deal, that's the point. But if someone used signature for two days or one week instead of month it's against the rules of the deal.

BitCoinDream

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Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 09, 2014, 02:58:17 PM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 05, 2014, 12:41:06 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:49:10 AM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

U have purposefully dodged my questions. I have made them colorful so that u dont miss them this time. I dont speak Klingon and it is pure English. Moreover it seems like u have appeared in a new avatar updownbot.bz (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-updownbotbz-signature-campaign-thread-closed-774226) to dodge your -ve.

🏰 TradeFortress 🏰

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Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 09, 2014, 02:58:17 PM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 05, 2014, 12:41:06 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:49:10 AM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

You should have paid everyone who fulfilled the original deal. If they kept their signature for the month but then removed the signature, you should still pay it for that month.

devthedev

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Simply put, I don't trust you.

There were multiple people who hadn't been paid for the signature campaign for one. Also, most of your dealings here have been shady, hence the feedback.

Posts like this reaffirm the decision in my mind.

Quote from: UpDown.BT on August 26, 2014, 03:47:11 PM

Tiny bullshitters arguing. Real guys do things. We're offering best and most transparent conditions for the guys who have traffic offering the only anonymous affiliate campaign where you can earn 50% of profits and receive daily payouts. You can always watch unique bet wallets that will be generated exclusively for you to check that we're clear.

Another instance, not too long ago with Updown confirming Updown.bz is an alt account.

Quote from: updownbot.bz on September 09, 2014, 05:04:27 PM

Quote from: RCHumphrey on September 09, 2014, 01:35:34 PM

In that case do you know why UpDown.BT posted in your thread as if the OP. I regret not screenshotting now but I can guarantee he did and subsequently deleted his post.

I would like that to be clarified thanks.

it seems this guy is not that nice Shocked

?

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 05, 2014, 12:41:06 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:49:10 AM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

I've answered to Haploid below. Everybody who's go along with the rules received payments. Some people was been afraid of my disappearance and dropped signature, so maybe it's not the best behavior from my side, but I have some reasons for that, and I'm clear because, again, everybody who's go along with the rules received their payments.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: haploid23 on September 05, 2014, 01:33:30 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:46:27 AM

I paid to everyone, that's how I handled the situation. The only arguing persons around is those who removed the signature before the end of the campaign and those who wasn't approved at all.

I was one of the people you have not fully paid, and the problem started very early. Let me look through that thread again, I only had a few post in that thread so it shouldn't take long to sift through it

Btw, how many people share this UpDown forum account? Sometimes you cannot speak proper English and ignore all problems, other times you're fluent.

I've checked that we found no signature few days before campaign was ended. It's a most common source of complains, but we can pay only to the people who's signature was confirmed during the campaign.

We have few members around the universe, some of us are good in Klingon, but not so good in English.

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Trust is trust.

It just means that DevTheDev doesn't trust you. The respected members of the community trust him, and hence, we indirectly don't trust you.

I say convincing is futile now.

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Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:46:27 AM

I paid to everyone, that's how I handled the situation. The only arguing persons around is those who removed the signature before the end of the campaign and those who wasn't approved at all.

I was one of the people you have not fully paid, and the problem started very early. Let me look through that thread again, I only had a few post in that thread so it shouldn't take long to sift through it

Btw, how many people share this UpDown forum account? Sometimes you cannot speak proper English and ignore all problems, other times you're fluent.

BitCoinDream

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Quote from: UpDown.BT on September 05, 2014, 09:49:10 AM

Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

Why didnt U pay the 2 users in question ? Were they banned while they were part of your campaign ? If U found someone is changing your sig, then why didnt u post that in thread immediately to mark their ineligibility ? Those are actually part of your excuse for not paying out legit users. Your -ve should stay unless U pay out all these users or post proof that they changed sig or banned while they were part of your campaign.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: BitCoinDream on September 04, 2014, 01:28:24 PM

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I absolutely stand by this. It was rather a monthly campaign and that thread is now locked without paying out everyone. UpDown rightfully earned his first red from alexrossi. But somehow he's now out of DefaultTrust !!! Though, I'm NOT fond of DefaultTrust, Devthedev has done the correct thing. UpDown is falsely claiming everywhere that he has paid out everyone.

I just need a list who's not paid. I'm answering on PMs. For now I know about two angry users, both of them have no signature few days before campaign was ended, one of them was been banned also.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I paid to everyone, that's how I handled the situation. The only arguing persons around is those who removed the signature before the end of the campaign and those who wasn't approved at all.

Tomatocage

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brb keeping up with the Kardashians

Quote from: haploid23 on September 04, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

UpDown.BT, for the record you still haven't fully paid out one of your weekly payment for sig campaign. Those were the times where you got your negative ratings. I'm too lazy to backtrack to figure out how much you still owe.

Devthedev gave you that rating based on how you handled the situation.

I wish Dev would have stated this in his trust rating details for UpDown.BT. That would clear up a lot of confusion.

5 Guys Burgers

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they can still neg trust u even if u never talked to them.

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